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Comments:
<0> it clearly says it was NOT imminent
<1> sorry for the caps... didn't really realize it was all caps in the font they replied with
<2> L0c0: come on, little ***** -- you can admit it....
<3> ack
<4> "Since when have terrorists and tyrants announced their intentions, politely putting us on notice before they strike?" here he says that we get no warnings from terrorists
<2> L0c0: come on.. .you can do it, donkey...
<3> hehe US-Male has issues
<3> you need to calm the **** down
<2> Qbrix: I suspect you are another moron
<4> "If this threat is permitted to fully and suddenly emerge, all actions, all words, and all recriminations would come too late." here he says that b/c it is a grave and gathering threat, we must act pre-emptively
<3> quite the civilized conversation....
<2> Qbrix: you need to eat **** and stfu
<3> oh snap!
<5> ok bai
<5> bbl
<2> "oh thnap" he says
<4> laters timur
<6> heh
<6> i just learned "oh snap!" a few months ago
<6> www.urbandictionary.com is my hero :)
<7> time for work... bbl.
<8> ' It is time to stand up and vote. Is it Al Qaeda or America?'
<8> Charlie Norwood, Republican of Georgia.
<2> L0c0: bottom line, if you cannot read that paragraph and understand that he says the threat was NOT YET IMMINENT , then you do not belong in thie channel
<9> godfist I like that dictionary
<2> reading comprehension 101
<2> you should be able to read and comprehend to be on IRC
<3> US-Male has a hard on for L0c0
<9> United jihadist states of Al Qaeda
<2> yeah L0c0 excites me
<3> you must get quite the rush from irc,.....
<8> President Bush and his aides had sought to portray Iraq as moving gradually toward a stable, functioning democracy, and to portray Democrats as lacking the will to see the conflict through to victory.
<8> portray?
<8> gawd I hate the ****ing media
<2> Qbrix: yeah my genitals are tingling
<6> rhetoric like that is divisive to me darth. i'm for the war in iraq but damn if some conservative or even independent minded dems disagree let them. "al qaeda or america" doesn't allow for that in my opinion
<3> US-Male: I believe you
<2> Qbrix: put your pants back on
<4> US-Male: that's bull**** and you know, you're just too far gone to admit it
<4> US-Male: the implication is that the threat is imminent and thus we MUST act
<2> L0c0: listen, weaseller.... Just admit you lied
<2> L0c0: you cannot be that dumb
<6> norwood is just giving the liberal hosts on air america ammuntion and the gun to shoot them with.
<2> CLEARLY saying it was not "imminent" --->>>> Bush, SoU speech 2003 "Some have said we must not act until the threat is imminent. Since when have terrorists and tyrants announced their intentions, politely putting us on notice before they strike? If this threat is permitted to fully and suddenly emerge, all actions, all words, and all recriminations would come too late. "
<3> Sad that US-Male HAS to insult at every opportunity
<3> what a ****ing child
<8> godfist yes, i know, but you see, the time for bitching is long over. it is a shame that so many people were bitching so much, that we had to actually have ANOTHER Vote. this is why media polls and populism is just scary
<2> anyone who cannot see that should not be allowed on IRC
<4> b/c terrorists dont put us on notice (btw, he was linking iraq and al-queda w/ that statement)
<9> godfist air american and gun...conflict of terms
<2> Qbrix: I see you insulting me, you little ****-eating *****
<6> yea i agree darth i dunno how accurate those polls are
<6> cry-haha
<4> i'm not dumb, unlike you, i just don't take a politicians words at face value
<10> only a fool believes that saddam/iraq had no links to terrorists
<0> NEW YORK - Britney Spears burst into tears while pleading for privacy from the media during an interview for NBC's "Dateline."
<2> L0c0: Oh you CHANGE a politican's words to mean what you want!
<10> l0c0: right.. bush "really meant" that Iraq was funding OBL, and was about to nuke 50million citizens.
<0> Spears told Matt Lauer she wants the paparazzi to leave her alone. In a choked-up voice Spears says "you have to realize that we're people." She says they need their "privacy" and "respect." She says "those are things that you have to have as a human being."
<4> Lupine: saddam was too much of an egomaniac...he wasn't gonna share power w/ terrorists
<0> goes to show yah, you can't fix stupid
<4> "But to date we have seen no evidence that these or the earlier contacts ever developed into a collaborative operational relationship. Nor have we seen evidence indicating that Iraq cooperated with al Qaeda in developing or carrying out any attacks against the United States." pg 66, 9/11 Commission Report
<6> no one in the media ever seems to question the method in which those polls are done. i'd like to see a even handed analysis of how those polls are done
<8> godfist no one is saying its not ok to be critical, but to have the Donkeys running around saying that Iraq is seperate from the war on terror is to much.
<2> "If this threat is permitted to fully and suddenly emerge" <<--- that means "if we allow it to become imminent"
<10> l0c0: you should go back to community college for reading comprehension. No direct link between Iraq and 9/11 != no links to any terrorists
<2> Bush clearly stating the threat was not "fully emerged"
<8> the CLinton Legacy Whitewash 911 commision did not even see any of the latest intel out of Iraq.
<10> US: dont you love how basic reading comprehension appears to be optional?
<4> Lupine: sorry, the 9/11 commission was in relation to what i put up about linking saddam/alqueda a couple of lines above, not to yours
<4> sorry if the IMPLICATION was that
<10> Darth: even still, the 9/11 commission did report on numerious ties between saddam/terrorism.
<8> actually, the 911 commision said there were links between Saddam and terror, but the put a condition on them of non operational, which is just rich
<10> There were terrorist training camps in Iraq.. hence, it is ***inine to claim there were no connections at all.
<2> Lupine: yeah, and to defend his lies he even admits that he doesn't "take Bush's words at face value" meaning he changes the guys words in his mind and thena argues agasint his purposely *false* changed version
<10> US: "the letter may have been a forgery, but what matters is the TRUTH behind the letter!" :-)
<3> uhm
<8> In the Senate, lawmakers voted overwhelmingly to shelve an amendment calling on the United States to withdraw most troops by the end of this year, although Democrats vowed to revisit the debate next week.
<2> Donkey hears "X" --> concinces self it "really means Y" ----> argues against Y, claims the guy really SAID "Y"
<3> why not just ban "neuticles"
<3> and not remove it
<2> *convinces
<3> I'm amazed the mods still have problems with these guys
<3> its NOT that hard, seriously
<11> Qbrix, he IS banned.
<8> "Rhetoric does not solve the problem." He added: "We need a plan. It's not enough to say stay the course."
<8> clearly, Bush's plan is to destroy the DNC
<8> Representative Nancy Pelosi of California, the Democratic leader, described the war "as a grotesque mistake." She and others said Congressional Republicans were simply trying to "trap" Democrats, not engage them in a true debate. The resolution Republicans offered could not be amended, but only voted up or down.
<8> "trap" Donkeys?
<8> who was just talking about speech traps
<3> TheTailor, obviously he isn't banned
<3> he comes back every other moment
<6> is there a website that will let you listen to like streaming audio of say bill oreilly's show..like today's show live streaming...without paying at like billoreilly.com heh
<3> look at this mess
<3> I've seen fishfood kicked multiple times this morning
<12> godfist, probably.
<12> I bet you can torrent it actually.
<3> yeah, they get banned, but then the ban list gets erased in a few minutes
<13> man... colbert is so good at busting people
<3> why have a cycle?
<9> whats new....
<3> fonebone`, you saw that 10 commandments thing too? funny huh
<0> The Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 (Public Law 105-338) [1] (codified in a note to 22 USCS 2151) is a United States Congressional statement of policy calling for regime change in Iraq.
<13> yeah
<9> Qbrix called dynamic bans
<13> im sure someone will say he was being disrespectful
<0> The Act found that Iraq had, between 1980 and 1998 (1) committed various and significant violations of International Law, (2) had failed to comply with the obligations to which it had agree following the First Gulf War and (3) further had ignored Resolutions of the United Nations Security Council. The Act declared that it was the Policy of the United States to support "regime change."
<3> CryHavoc: its called poor moderation
<0> Bush merely followed the law
<12> Qbrix, if you don't cycle then your banlist gets full
<12> and then you can't do anything.
<8> Qbrix think you can do better?
<9> Qbrix nope
<12> Not that I really should be explaining this because you're just trolling the ops.
<12> But eh.
<3> P_O: a banlist shouldn't get full, a bot should be able to hold its on list and hold thousands
<12> Qbrix, I'm talking server side.
<12> Having a bot that holds thousands of bans means nothing if the server wont' support it.
<10> qbix: the problem is, there are more than 100 schmucks who have a continual join-attempt on the channel.
<3> seee
<10> so the banlist is perpetually full
<3> why are THOSE unbanned?
<10> the server banlist, the bots can hold thousands
<8> and its full
<8> we call that a hint.
<9> what it is is some snot-nosed 11 year old who, because he lacks functional genitalia, has to prove he is leet by zonbifying PCs in various areas and use them to attack a channel which is antithesis of what he represents
<10> why the **** efnet can't handle thousands of bans I dont know.. i mean, was it programmed for an 8088?
<3> efnet is very behind the times
<3> no chanserv
<3> no nickserv
<3> its all out there, free too
<9> Lupine...the prob exists with a few servers
<3> efnet is supposed to be the wild west of irc, thats the problem
<9> said servers refuse to curtail botnets
<12> Lupine, cause efnet has thousands of channels
<12> and if you use too much memory on each one for bans and such
<12> then your server needs that much more.
<14> cause its all done for free geesh
<3> how long has this bot attack been going on?
<9> channels are of little consequence P_O
<11> Qbrix, no, obviously he IS banned, that's why he gets kicked. If the ban list clears he can reenter and get kicked again, if this bothers you put joins, pats and mode changes in your status window, genius.
<14> amazing how people have come to the conclusion that free has the same room for complaint paid for does
<12> CryHavoc, yeah, but lets say you allocate 1kb per channel on each server for a banlist
<0> "said" servers should be removed from Efnet
<3> TheTailor: wow, try reading the channel before posting like an idiot
<9> they wont though...
<3> efnet isn't going to change, ever
<12> CryHavoc, Lupine was asking why they won't :P
<9> because they have some of the best trroughput
<3> I'm amazed its still up
<11> Qbrix, try not whining and criticizing the channel managment, it's none of your business.
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