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<0> L0c0: keep weaselling, litttle *****
<1> L0c0 trusts Saddam
<0> Bush, SoU speech 2003 "Some have said we must not act until the threat is imminent. Since when have terrorists and tyrants announced their intentions, politely putting us on notice before they strike? If this threat is permitted to fully and suddenly emerge, all actions, all words, and all recriminations would come too late. "
<2> lol
<3> again, my point stands, bush would not and could not say it was an "imminent threat" but he implied it in just about every way he could
<4> and your a teache
<5> yes, and the next month, in FEB 2003 he has his official spokesman say that iraq is an imminent threat, on two differnet occasions.
<1> "What he meant, not what he actually said!' stamps foot
<6> US: well, we know what bush REALLY MEANT.. which was iraq = imminent nuclear threat against the USA
<0> L0c0 is too much of a ***** to ADMIT he does not agree with pre-emptive stirkes, so he LIES and claims that Bush said it was "imminent"
<4> you can't even read the ****ing words that were said how can you teach
<7> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDbzFak4-e8&search=BELLEN
<7> hahaha
<8> US-Male personally I disagree with attack w/o an imminent threat
<3> bush says "some say we can't wait 'til its imminent" then says "but we can't wait"...the implication being that it is
<7> rond: yeah, so? :)
<0> any antiwar advocate who's not a ****ing ***** will just say "yeah but I don't agree with pre-emptive strikes"
<7> read the sources!
<3> US-Male: uh...i already said that i didn't agree with a pre-emptive strike
<0> claiming "Bush said it was imminent" makes you a ****ing ***** and a lair
<0> *liar
<5> i am not saying i do not agree with pre-emptive strikes, i am saying you are lying about the historical reason given.
<1> KoBushi is in the "Wait for the first attack, then retaliate, AFTER we have dead citizens."
<7> the Arab mindset which brought 9/11 was imminent enough :)
<0> L0c0: but you also lied and were a ***** by claiming "BUsh said it was imminent"
<6> Timur: indeed.. we should do NOTHING about it until AFTER they strike again!
<0> Null_Ptr: is STILL a lying *****
<7> Lup: yeah! otherwise we r bad ppls
<3> [09:04] <3> US-Male: Iraq? no, iraq was not an imminent threat to the US and therefore didnt justify a pre-emptive war
<3> get with it
<1> yes, we will FEEL BAD
<9> Treason.... aid and comfort to the enemy... meaningless words of a era long gone. Have the Dems killed off quant notions of loyalty to ones country right or wrong?
<3> now you're just making yourself look like a bully
<0> L0c0: but you also lied and were a ***** by claiming "Bush said it was imminent"
<10> yea i gotta unignore ppl sometimes because even the most hateful and rude ones have something good to say :/
<10> sometimes have something informative to say anyway
<0> L0c0: when you retract your weaslelly lie, then you can move forward
<7> Darth: I took out Lor's emotion chip so I don't feel a damn thing!
<9> sigh.
<1> Timur ***HOLE!
<7> god: too bad there's no AI filter for quality statements..:)
<0> L0c0: you're making yourself look like a weaselly liar
<5> timur it is too soon, he is still carrying on
<10> HAHA timur
<4> My new years resolution (the only one) is to keep linus on ignore...he never has anything useful to say
<7> damn!
<8> DarthBurg don't be dramatic, waiting for an imminant threat is not waiting for dead citizens
<1> "Saddam wasn't BAD, Saddam was really a Nice Guy just trying to keep the lights on in Bagdad"
<4> and 6 months in....the resolution is sticking
<9> Watching Cable news today is depressing... the rants and raves from the dems make me feel ask who are they fighting for.
<7> Linus sometimes says good stuff..
<4> Never
<3> us-male: find where i said (as you just quoted me as saying) "bush said it was imminent"
<4> he is almost as bad as bmc
<2> Tim: lol fun commercial
<6> US: i think we've addressedthe " imminent threat" issue. how about we move on about their claim that WMD was the only justification given, and that all others were post-invasion :-)
<3> now you're just making things up
<3> that's pathetic man
<0> L0c0: You lied and were a ***** by claiming "Bush said it was imminent"
<8> DarthBurg waiting for an imminent threat is just that... waiting until the threat is imminent... if it isn't imminent, then it may never hapen.
<3> no, i said he implied it
<3> there's a difference
<3> you're claiming that i said that, i did not
<6> ooooOOO "he implied it".. in otherwards, you can't prove it with any facts ;-)
<3> go back, scroll up
<0> L0c0: pay attention, dumb***. You don't even know which of your lies are bing discussed
<7> Saddam's bioweapons ppl engineered a secret army of poisonous boll weevils with Alient technology
<3> find whre i said it
<3> find it
<7> how much more imminent can you get!?!?
<0> L0c0: oh IMPLIED now you claim. Hahaha
<6> timur: did they have fricken lazers on their heads?
<2> Timur: gremlins with rpgs
<7> yeah!!
<3> you're just being an ***hole now
<0> L0c0: just admit you lied, and were wrong, and have been trying to cover that up for 30 minutes
<7> lazer guns and alient poison!!!!
<3> now i claim?
<10> roadkil-i heard a democrat congressman talking to Ed Schultz that host on air america...he was ranting about the huge deficit that i agree with but he said there IS no congress under bush only the other 2 branches like bush can get any bill he wants p***ed thru congress. i'm like hello? did you miss the fact that he hasn't vetoed a single bill that got thru congress? he's giving congress a rubber stamp on everything@!
<3> dude
<7> very dangerous!!!
<6> US-male: bush implied that l0C0 copulates with sheep!
<2> a m***ive army of gremlins with rpgs
<1> KoBushi, like there is an "Imminent threat" that you would feel comfortable taking action against.
<0> L0c0: yes, I will be an ***hole when you are a ****ing ***** and a weasel
<2> and lasers
<3> you've obviously not beeing reading anything i've been putting up
<0> L0c0: when you act like this, I will stick your words right up your ***
<3> [08:53] <3> Lupine: that's a weak argument imo. b/c he didn't use the word "imminent" doesn't mean it wasn't implied by statements like a van outside the whites and a smoking gun in the form of a mushroom cloud
<3> [08:53] <3> he is a politician
<3> [08:54] <3> and politicians know how to dance around **** so they can go back and later say "well i didn't say..."
<3> [08:55] <3> US-Male: he wouldn't use the words "imminent danger"
<5> For bureaucratic reasons, we settled on one issue, weapons of m*** destruction (as justification for invading Iraq) because it was the one reason everyone could agree on.
<5> Paul Wolfowitz
<5> Vanity Fair interview
<5> May 28, 2003
<0> L0c0: WRONG, dumb***, he specifically said the OPPOSITE
<3> [08:58] <3> US-Male: i didn't say he said "imminent danger"
<7> you just WISH you had hair like that
<3> [08:58] <3> US-Male: i said that he danced around it and b/c he didn't specifically say "imminent danger" didn't mean that was what was being implied
<0> Bush, SoU speech 2003 "Some have said we must not act until the threat is imminent. Since when have terrorists and tyrants announced their intentions, politely putting us on notice before they strike? If this threat is permitted to fully and suddenly emerge, all actions, all words, and all recriminations would come too late. "
<8> DarthBurg there are several good examples... the Cuban Missle crisis, for example
<0> L0c0: read it, moron
<7> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDbzFak4-e8&search=BELLEN <-- see it!!
<0> L0c0: WRONG, dumb***, he specifically said the OPPOSITE
<3> [09:03] <3> US-Male: what did i say? i said that he didn't use the words "imminent threat" b/c he's a politician and smarter than that. but every word he did use to describe the situation implied it
<3> [09:05] <3> US-Male: comments that if we dont' act, somebody's gonna park a van w/ a nuclear bomb outside the whitehouse is an implication that there is an imminent danger if there is no action taken
<0> he did NOT "imply" it was imminent. he STATED it was not.
<3> dude, i can go on
<0> Bush, SoU speech 2003 "Some have said we must not act until the threat is imminent. Since when have terrorists and tyrants announced their intentions, politely putting us on notice before they strike? If this threat is permitted to fully and suddenly emerge, all actions, all words, and all recriminations would come too late. "
<0> L0c0: read it, moron
<3> now youre acting like i never said what i did
<5> lupine, I provided the first quote from a bush administration official, describing how they decided to sell the war on the basis of WMDs
<7> imply immient iraq threat! boll weeevilllsss
<0> LIE --->> [08:27] <3> [08:54] <3> and politicians know how to dance around **** so they can go back and later say "well i didn't say..."
<8> DarthBurg that being said, there was justification for action in Iraq based on cease-fire violations alone.
<0> Bush, SoU speech 2003 "Some have said we must not act until the threat is imminent. Since when have terrorists and tyrants announced their intentions, politely putting us on notice before they strike? If this threat is permitted to fully and suddenly emerge, all actions, all words, and all recriminations would come too late. "
<0> L0c0: read it, moron
<11> still combating the bots?
<7> Boll WEE-vils.. Boll WEE-vils..
<11> US-Male, be nice
<1> KoBushi thats what I keep coming back to, the cease fire
<3> i did...you obviously don't know how to read
<11> lol
<9> godfist: I am not sure exactly what you mean, what I think is that Bush can not get "everything he wants" just look to the imagration bill... Bush wants "amesty" most Red States don't.
<0> Qbrix: I treat fellow IRC-ers as they treat others =)
<2> Timur: I was hoping we took over for oil ;(
<3> [09:17] <3> US-male: yes, i just posted that...read it, the implication is that we have to take action b/c the threat is imminent
<11> hehe
<11> carry on then
<3> i already addressed it too
<0> LIE --->> [08:27] <3> [08:54] <3> and politicians know how to dance around **** so they can go back and later say "well i didn't say..."
<0> L0c0: WRONG, dumb***, he specifically said the OPPOSITE
<8> DarthBurg I support action due to the cease-fire violations... and really it should have been done under Clinton... however I do not support pre-emptive attack on the basis of non-imminent threat
<3> no he doesn't
<3> he said "some have we must not act until the threat is imminent"
<1> thats how L0c0's fave politicians do it, so they must ALL do it
<3> he doesn't say "the threat is not imminent"
<0> Bush did nto do any "dancing around and implying imminence"
<10> roadkil-well if that's the case then bush isn't dictator over congress, the dems do have some say in it and the congressman is being hateful and the liberal host let him get away with that statement. room for disagreement still exists in this country like it or not
<0> L0c0: you';re the one dancing around, you ****ing weasel
<11> haha blacklists?
<10> i dunno
<2> A controversial House resolution on Iraq p***ed today 256-153 after a rancorous election-year debate. The nonbinding Republican measure labels the Iraq war part of a global fight on terrorism and says an "arbitrary date for the withdrawal or redeployment" of troops is not in the national interest.
<3> US-Male: the point of that statement is that our action should not wait for the action of others, but we should act pre-emptively
<0> LIE --->> [08:27] <3> [08:54] <3> and politicians know how to dance around **** so they can go back and later say "well i didn't say..."
<0> L0c0: admit you lied about that
<11> how is that a lie?
<2> http://www.cnn.com/
<10> i do think schultz is rational and even handed on a few issues from the short time i've been listening to him which is surprising for an air america host, but he's still too biased for me
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