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<0> etc
<1> agrees with Bush --->> [08:08] <4> US-Male: Iraq? no, iraq was not an imminent threat to the US
<2> [11:03] <e^-jwt> godfist, you ingrate, we killed more civilians during the invasion than the insurgents have killed since
<3> Null: ah yes, the ignorant arguement that since we can't solve everyones problems.. we can't solve anything.
<2> wow where does this guy get his figures from?
<4> US-Male: comments that if we dont' act, somebody's gonna park a van w/ a nuclear bomb outside the whitehouse is an implication that there is an imminent danger if there is no action taken
<5> Lupine that is why I say the WMD reason is the only one that mattered -- it's the only one that alone could propel the nation to war. All of the other reasons are not reason for war, as witnessed by the fact that we have not attacked any of the other countries that have done those things to a far greater degree than Iraq.
<2> omg
<2> free got kicked by coppertop...damn
<3> Timur: yea, the physical shape of the German's helmet was the best..
<1> L0c0: stop whining, dumb***. Bush specifically said it was "not imminent". You lost your argument.
<5> i do not think calling me ignorant is going to make you any more right -- you are guilty at least of selective recall here.
<3> Null: so you think CLinton's going to war in Serbia/etc was wrong?
<5> Bush NEVER SAID IT WAS "NOT IMMINENT" -- you have only posted a quote that used none of those words
<4> US-Male: when did he say "not imminent"
<1> Null_Ptr: bull****, you ****ing liar.
<5> He never said it was NOT IMMINENT
<5> show me the quote
<5> you can't
<5> because he never said it
<5> he never used those words
<5> because it would have hurt his case
<1> Null_Ptr and L0c0 (the two dumb***es!) : Bush stated we needed to invade "BEFORE THE THREAT BECOMES IMMINENT"
<5> when
<5> where
<5> he did not say that
<5> not in those words
<5> you are paraphrasing at best
<1> to the two Dumb***es: you CANNOT do something "before it is imminent' WITHOUT requiring factually that is is NOT imminent.
<1> you were INCORRECT.
<1> now shut the **** up
<0> THANKS!
<5> there is the famous quote about "before the proof arrives in the form of a mushroom cloud" etc -- that is probably what you are referring to but he never used the word "imminent threat" in the negative about Iraq. Never.
<1> admit your error and shut the **** up
<0> nah, just stfu without admission who cares :)
<5> there is no error as far as i'm concerned, because you have provided no proof whatsoever, just pasted a quote using some various other verbiage.
<4> won't answer my question?
<5> but i am going to move on, because i don't want to bore the rest of the channel. you are still wrong though, but please, carry on making personal attacks against me as I'm sure you will.
<6> I don't think I have ever seen Null_ptr be convinced of any counter arguments to his ideas
<4> when did he say "not imminent"
<0> u ppl are boring!!
<6> he just comes on here day after day with the same broken ideas
<7> lol
<2> yea we aren't trying to find even the slightest reasons to bash the war and bush how boring! :P
<4> what did they call it?
<7> Timur: I just heard moveon.org called right wing
<7> ahahahaha
<4> a grave and gathering threat
<0> well, it's just that it's the same misconstrued, perspective-lacking, ahistoric arguments as usual!!!
<0> Pub: lol. by whom?
<7> Timur: an insane leftists on undernet
<7> lol
<1> State of the Union speech in 2003:
<1> "Some have said we must not act until the threat is imminent. Since when have terrorists and tyrants announced their intentions, politely putting us on notice before they strike? If this threat is permitted to fully and suddenly emerge, all actions, all words, and all recriminations would come too late. "
<4> "gathering threat"
<0> ok
<1> L0c0: just admit you wer wrong, and move the **** on
<4> gathering being a synonym for imminent
<0> well, only a total idiot would advise inaction and isolation in the face of growing external threats
<4> i'm not wrong
<0> that's the end of that whole issue for me
<4> bush danced around the term
<8> being a Donkey means never having to say you are wrong, or sorry
<9> Moveon.org is looking for people to join up?
<1> L0c0: you're wrong, and dumb for not seeing it
<4> he wouldn't and couldn't use the actual term
<4> instead you got **** like "grave and gathering threat"
<5> "Absolutely."
<5> White House spokesman Ari Fleischer answering whether Iraq was an "imminent threat," 5/7/03
<0> christ, do I have to ignore the whole channel
<5> "This is about imminent threat."
<5> White House spokesman Scott McClellan, 2/10/03
<0> move on
<0> no pun intended
<8> Jay Rockefeller, DID say Iraq was an imminent threat, but since he is a Donkey, he gets a free p***.
<1> L0c0: He DID you ignorant fool. See the State of the Union speech from 2003
<2> timur-plz dont ignore me i'm on your side :)
<5> are you calling Scott McClellan a weasely liar? jesus.
<1> "Some have said we must not act until the threat is imminent. Since when have terrorists and tyrants announced their intentions, politely putting us on notice before they strike? If this threat is permitted to fully and suddenly emerge, all actions, all words, and all recriminations would come too late. "
<9> Site Banner will sign you up :)
<1> State of the Union speech in 2003:
<0> god: ok!
<7> Darth: lol
<0> wait, ignore null, US, L0c0
<0> who else>!?!?!
<7> meeeeeee
<7> hahaha
<0> u just get trout
<1> who's the President ? Scott McClellan ?
<1> hahaha
<6> Your welcome to put me in ignore
<5> oh, so now, Scott McClellan, the official whitehouse spokesman, doesn't speak for the white house
<5> nice
<6> oops you already said you had done that never mind
<1> Null_Ptr: Just admit you are wrong and move on
<1> you're depsarately clinging to a non-issue
<8> scott McCleland was a nice kid, but a ****ty press secretary
<0> ROND WAT
<5> you're desperately stretching to reinvent history
<1> State of the Union speech in 2003:
<1> "Some have said we must not act until the threat is imminent. Since when have terrorists and tyrants announced their intentions, politely putting us on notice before they strike? If this threat is permitted to fully and suddenly emerge, all actions, all words, and all recriminations would come too late. "
<5> are you saying he didn't say those things, AFTER THE STATE OF THE UNION SPEECH?
<1> Null_Ptr: memorize that
<8> claiming bush lied is reinventing history
<6> when I pissed you off so royally you said your on ignore or something to that effect :)
<5> the official whitehouse spokesman?
<1> Null_Ptr: inscribe that on your feeble brain
<0> STOP LYNG
<4> Some have said we must not act until the threat is imminent. Since when have terrorists and tyrants announced their intentions, politely putting us on notice before they strike? If this threat is permitted to fully and suddenly emerge, all actions, all words, and all recriminations would come too late. Trusting in the sanity and restraint of Saddam Hussein is not a strategy, and it is not an option.
<0> u bad man
<1> Null_Ptr: write that on the blackboard 100 times
<1> "Some have said we must not act until the threat is imminent. Since when have terrorists and tyrants announced their intentions, politely putting us on notice before they strike? If this threat is permitted to fully and suddenly emerge, all actions, all words, and all recriminations would come too late. "
<7> u hypr
<5> US-Male then the next month, the official whitehouse spokesman says Iraq is an imminent threat, twice. Already provided the dates.
<1> Null_Ptr: you're dumb.
<1> hahah
<0> well, I got the day off, so I'm happy.. :)
<1> Null_Ptr: who's the President ?
<5> What does the President's spokesman do? Speak for the president. Jesus you are dense.
<6> Null_ptr have you ever tried to get a message out to people say 2 people removed
<0> esp since I've been teaching evenings 6-10 pm!
<1> Null_Ptr: who's the President ?
<1> Null_Ptr: asnwer the question
<5> What does the President's spokesman do? Speak for the president. How can you not understand something so simple?
<6> your message always gets changed. I go with the state of the union address
<1> you're depsarately clinging to a non-issue
<5> You are just a freak.
<1> Null_Ptr: aswser the question, *****
<1> Null_Ptr: who's the President ?
<4> the implication in that statement is taht the threat is imminent, that's why, in that speech, he said we must act
<4> geez
<5> How long will you keep going on with this denial of the basic historical facts?
<1> Null_Ptr: Just admit you are wrong and move on
<1> "Some have said we must not act until the threat is imminent. Since when have terrorists and tyrants announced their intentions, politely putting us on notice before they strike? If this threat is permitted to fully and suddenly emerge, all actions, all words, and all recriminations would come too late. "
<10> More importantly... without the threat being imminant, should we have attacked?
<1> SoU speech, 2003
<5> I am not wrong. I've already provided numerous references, AFTER THE SPEECH YOU KEEP PASTING IDIOT
<4> US-Male: keep gooing: "Trusting in the sanity and restraint of Saddam Hussein is not a strategy, and it is not an option."
<0> Kob
<4> US-male: yes, i just posted that...read it, the implication is that we have to take action b/c the threat is imminent
<0> http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/06/04/nyt.friedman/
<0> so yes!
<1> KoBushi: the truth is, they do not agree with the IDEA but they are ****ing lying scumbags for not jst admitting that
<0> ok next
<1> L0c0: keep weaselling, litttle *****
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