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<0> if we would have been big in Somalia in 1991 <0> Rwanda wouldn't have happened <0> hows that? <1> since when does somalia affect rwanda <2> wait, I'm on comcast. Dont do a comcast ban pls ;) <0> |bob its a not brainer <1> well, suppose that I have no brane <1> explain it <3> "If we had done X, genocide would have been prevented!!" <4> thats kind of true <3> simplistic ***ertion <4> though <0> we would have had major force in Somalia <4> think about it
<4> anyway, im off to sleep <0> that would have prevented the genocide of 900,000 rwandans <4> night Hemi <1> RustyFord: how <0> they would have been jhonnies on the spot <1> the rwandans weren't fighting the US <0> |bob no duh <0> neither were the Yugo's <3> If Albert Einstein had exterminated Young Hitler with an Icepick in the Cloakroom, the genocide of 90,000,000 soviets would have been prevented <0> |bob if i am not mistaken the UN was formed to stop genocide? <3> The UN was formed to prevent WW3 <0> but hey what do i know about international law.... <1> e-hernick is right <1> "to prevent the scourge of war" <0> e-hernick i would suggest you look up the UN charter <0> and then get back to me <3> RustyFord: do you have a point? <0> e-hernick you have a problem with following conversation? <3> RustyFord: I ***ert that "the UN was formed to prevent WW3" is a more accurate description of the original UN mission than "formed to stop genocide" <0> if you do i would suggest you find another forum <0> I never said it was formed to stop genocide <3> RustyFord: Now, telling me to "read the UN charter" is not a proper reply <0> i ask that you look up the UN charter <0> if you can't handle that then i wonder what is your goal ? <1> RustyFord: it says "prevent future generations from the scourge of war". why don't you look it up? <3> RustyFord: that's a dismissal. What about, next time you ask me a question, I say: "go read the constitution!" or "go read some other document, otherwise you can't take part in this discussion!".. it's ridiculous. <0> the UN charter doesn't even mention "preventing ww3" <0> hahahhaha <1> er, save <0> e-Hernick no more dismissive than "do you have a point" <5> Abusive Domain or User <0> so <0> what is YOUR point? <0> or are you one of those who only uses international law to say "ITS BUSHS FAULT!" <0> oh wait <0> thats right <3> RustyFord: my point is that the UN charter begins with "to save succeeding generations from the scourge of war, which twice in our lifetime has brought untold sorrow to mankind, and" <0> and? <0> genocide is not a scourge of war? <3> " which twice in our lifetime has brought untold sorrow to mankind" <0> yes and? <3> it's clear that the "scourge of war" refers to WW1 and WW2 <0> genocide is not a scourge of war? <6> REDMOND, Wash. (AP) - Microsoft Corp. Chairman Bill Gates announced Thursday that he will transition from day-to-day responsibilities at the company he co-founded to concentrate on the charitable work of the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. <3> twice in our lifetime <0> genocide was not a part of the scourge of war? <3> we're refering to world wars here <0> in either ww2 or ww1? <5> Americans should be proud to be in iraq and Proud to die for a cause greator than themselved, if only we all had that kind of courage. <0> how many excuses can you make ? <1> US-Male: :( <0> Freeisme <0> isn't that awesome <6> bob is that bad <0> people actually think that genocide should not be a UN mandate that the scourge of war doesn't include genocide <0> NICE!
<3> RustyFord: The UN charter does not mention genocide once. However, the first sentence of the charter mentions WW1 and WW2. <3> Likewise, troll. <0> I bet e-Hernick also has a multiple definitions for the word "is" <0> i love how he took the first sentence out of the UN charter <0> and ignored the rest <0> the whole "human dignity and international law part" <5> What are you guys debating so I might straighten you out :) <7> Freeisme -- how was the movie? <0> to reaffirm faith in fundamental human rights, in the dignity and worth of the human person, in the equal rights of men and women and of nations large and small, and <0> to establish conditions under which justice and respect for the obligations arising from treaties and other sources of international law can be maintained <5> Kali, What movie ? <5> haha... Good. <7> Freeisme weren't you going to go watch a movie?? <5> Abusive Domain or User <0> Freeisme ohh its just revisionist crap by e=Hernick <0> trying to explain why under Clinton we didn't go into Rwanda <5> Its where I got the channel title from which I had written down before asyou know edmund Burke is one of my favorite British historical figures. The Father of American Conservatism. I quote him often or rrefer to him often. <0> so e-hernick <0> would you like to carry on this foolish conversation? <3> Freeisme: Well, the debate is fairly simple. We are wondering which of the following two statements best describes the reason why the UN was founded: 1. "To prevent WW3" or 2. "To prevent genocide" <0> or get owned some more? <5> "Tears of the sun" Even though its a movie it really puts the iraq war into perspective and reminds me why more resolve than every is needed to determine to win and to never give in. <3> The supporting document being the UN charter, which does not contain the word genocide, but opens with the following statement: "WE THE PEOPLES OF THE UNITED NATIONS DETERMINED to save succeeding generations from the scourge of war, which twice in our lifetime has brought untold sorrow to mankind, and" <0> e-Hernick so you ignore the rest of the preliminary statement? <0> WE THE PEOPLES OF THE UNITED NATIONS DETERMINED <0> to save succeeding generations from the scourge of war, which twice in our lifetime has brought untold sorrow to mankind, and <0> to reaffirm faith in fundamental human rights, in the dignity and worth of the human person, in the equal rights of men and women and of nations large and small, and <0> to establish conditions under which justice and respect for the obligations arising from treaties and other sources of international law can be maintained, and <0> to promote social progress and better standards of life in larger freedom, <0> to "reaffirm faith in FUNDAMENTAL HUMAN RIGHTS" <0> gee Hernick? <5> And how we support the enemy when congresspersons on the floor of the house speak cowardly to our brave men sending hope and support to our enemies and I think disgusting our best men and women fighting in iraw. <0> hahah FT! exactly <7> RUSTY! cut that out <0> hahahah <5> The UN Has never accomplished anything in fact if you weigh on a balance the damage and the good its done its very hard to know how it would balance out. <0> Kali, i am sorry i am just mocking the donkeys <7> Rusty -- ooooooook -- just don't get tooo carried away... <5> When Fidel Castro is on the Human Rights Commision its a joke and we should pull most of its funding but not all. <0> Kali, most people see it as a joke until you showed up! <3> The UN has issued some very serious resolutions! <5> we should fund the most primary purpose which is to give the international world a forum to discuss world issues <7> Rusty - been reading all night so there! <0> Kali heh i been here all day before you showed up <0> so "there!" <7> Rusty - oh I can believe that one -- but ya see I worked today... <5> All the sub groups of the UN except for the World Health Organisation isnt worth a ****. <3> Freeisme: I believe that UN peacekeepers have been effective in a few situations. <0> in fact mostly i don't even come on here at night because i can't stand the night time crowd <5> And is that an American opinion ? <0> they are far to touchy <5> No My good friend who was a diplomat at the UN Representing Columbia got so sick of the uselessness of the UN he quit. <0> FT, its couldnt be because people don't bother to read the charter could it? <0> they think "ohh I am in the UN! i have a voice!" <5> The UN peacekeepers have been ****ing 13 year old girls in Africa and some f them have filmed it. which is nice so we somebody could prosecute them only who is prosecuting them ? <5> Rusty its because it represents the world without a leader.. <0> FT, i had a picture of dutch UN peacekeepers throwing a chick over a fire from Africa <0> i might still have it somewhere <0> freakin disgusting
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