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<0> You think Chretien or Trudeau cared about not only Ukrainian Farmers, but Westerners in General?
<1> Air -- http://pages.prodigy.net/cherryak
<0> and Mulroney was a bit of a prick
<2> Herzen: My (french) great-grandfather gave him **** once for insulting Ukrainians... Basically said "oh well, he was just a Ukrainian" of a murder victim.
<3> tanks
<1> yw
<4> I think you have to be a bit of a prick to get that high in politics
<0> OcDoc, It scares me how inept the Liberals are at politicks this election
<0> Paul Martin is like Kim Cambell with a longer term
<0> Just dumb as dirt
<4> Herzen: they were always all talk tho ... shouldn't be surprising
<0> Well their talk really backfired
<0> and they ran some awful ads
<0> and are in the doghouse pretty good now
<4> Herzen: they create fantasies in the minds of the voters and there's nothing there when the fantasy dissolve
<0> OcDoc, Basically if you look at their adds in totality
<5> too bad it only leaves the conservates to vote for really =\
<4> Herzen: all they can do is repeat the same failed slogans, and lash out at the other guys
<0> The message is: Stephen Harper is being bought by the U.S. to install Martial Law in Canada to hand Canada over to the U.S.
<0> Thrasher`, Vote NDP
<2> I still think the Liberals' shining moment was when they got caught running commercials suggesting that the Conservatives would militarily occupy Canadian cities.
<4> Herzen: that's the flip side of fantasy ... the nightmare fear
<2> And then they disavowed the commercials, not realizing that they hadn't pulled the French-language version of it yet.
<5> I guess, tho ive decided not to vote at all, theres none that have my way of thinking
<0> Vote for that Independant Guy
<0> oh wait, you're still voting in Dauphin-Swan River ?
<5> Yeah
<0> ****, just vote for Inky Mark
<0> Hes a good guy
<2> Vote for Chris Buors!
<5> he'll win anyways, no need for my vote, heh
<0> I'd rather slit my wrists
<0> Chris Buors is a monumental idiot
<2> No, he's a full-born loon.
<2> Full-bore, even.
<0> He hurts his party more then helps it
<4> I should send you guys an american sympathy card
<0> He always writes letters to the papers arguing that Crystal Meth should be legal
<0> and while some might agree
<0> its not a popular view
<0> and not like a moderate "Lets make Marijuana legal" view
<2> Herzen: He doesn't have a political party--he single-handedly succeeded in reducing the Libertarian party to one member.
<4> Herzen: that's how libertarian candidates shoot themselves in the foot too
<2> Of course, he was calling it the "Marijuana Party" at that point.
<0> I thought he was head of the Marijuana Party of Manitoba
<2> Herzen: It started as the Libertarian Party
<4> sigh
<0> Thats too bad
<2> Buors turned it into that "Marijuana Party" after he'd driven off enough of the membership.
<4> that's why I finally gave up
<0> Pickle, Its kind of sad that the Christian Heritage Party is the only real Fiscal Libertarian party in Canada
<0> and even then
<0> The only real popular one
<0> CHP is 6th in national popularity
<4> my fellow libertarians were worse than the political opponents
<0> Then again, CHP really shoots itself in the foot
<0> because their candidates talk about curing homo***uality
<0> etc
<0> The one at the local debate here blamed gun crime in toronto on the Koran
<0> and Islam
<6> lol
<0> he also said that kids who go to daycare are more violent
<0> and he said, and I quote, "A womans role is in the home"
<4> there I was, a doctor in a suit and tie talking about reducing the size and cost of government
<4> and there they were talking about drugs, hooking and blah blah
<0> Every socially right-wing bone in my body makes me want to vote for CHP
<0> but alas, I have to vote for a reasonable party
<2> Herzen: He's also an unapologetic gay basher.
<0> Pickle, Who, Chris Bouors or Colin Atkin?
<2> Herzen: And to top it all off, he doesn't believe in "mental illness".
<4> in beards and dirty shirts and wild eyes
<2> Herzen: Buors.
<0> Buors is an idiot
<0> Colin Atkins is a gay basher, but hes a little 75 year old Englishman
<0> So its sweet in a kind of sick way
<0> Hes the CHP candidate here
<4> Herzen: gays are the least of your problems in Canada
<0> He was talking about how Homo***uality "is a disease of the mind" and how we all have Hetero***ual bodies
<0> and how we must have to "cure homo***uality"
<0> OcDoc, I don't mind gays, as long as a) they aren't in my face about it, which they are and b) they don't try to redefine something I might want to do someday
<4> Herzen: yeah
<7> Herz: Like anal?
<0> no, like marriage
<4> that goes for lots of issues
<7> Herz: Pfft.
<2> OcDoc: http://www.reason.com/0302/bagge.shtml
<7> Spirits of RustyFord, and Pickle, Begone from Herzen's brain!
<0> When I say "I'm married" I don't want to be asked "Oh, to a man or a woman"
<7> Herz: Well, quit wearing the damn tutu, and they won't ask.
<4> ROFL ... thanks PIckle
<4> Reason knows the score alright
<4> oh my people
<0> Pickle, Farmers here are actually excited about the Conservatives plan
<0> I went to an Agriculture debate
<0> and basically, CAIS is too complicated and doesn't really work very well
<4> Herzen: what's CAIS?
<0> and they want to be able to drive to the U.S. to sell their grain and not be thrown in prison
<0> Canadian Agricultural Income Stabilization program
<2> OcDoc: No one knows the problems with the LP better than rational libertarians.
<0> Basically its a program you pay into
<0> and when you have a ****ty year
<0> it gives you money back
<0> so you don't starve
<4> The Canadian Agricultural Income Stabilization (CAIS) Program ... oh
<0> Like unemploymen tinsurance
<4> we call that crop insurance here
<0> Except its extremely complex, the fee system is aparently awful
<0> and its state run
<8> unemployment insurance in the us is paid only by employers
<4> tortus: that's not true
<8> it is
<0> I think it would depend on the state
<0> would it not?
<4> I paid thirty cents a paycheck into ours
<8> its a tax on payroll
<0> I can't see UI being a federal program
<4> tortus: it came out of my paycheck in Washington state
<0> Anyways, zzzzz time
<4> nite Herzen
<0> Night
<0> 7 days left til the vote
<8> ocdoc: that was only for you
<0> afk
<4> tortus: you made a statement that wasn't true
<4> I just pointed it out
<8> blah blah blah
<4> is that like "talk to the hand?"
<8> worse
<4> you mean even MORE childish?
<8> define it how you like, its your post afterall
<9> 24 is a great show
<1> suna -- and was superb tonight -- yup
<10> yeah man
<9> yah i'm halfway through it
<10> i dig it
<9> in california
<9> having a blast watching it;)
<4> I take it back ... the witholding was for workers' comp health insurance
<11> 20:55:25 15/01/2006 LOG
<12> my ear still feels plugged after 2 weeks
<4> the unemployment was employer paid
<8> blah sputter blah
<4> USMale: wax?
<12> nah I think it's the eustachian tube
<12> I have a cold I'm almost over
<4> USMale: did you try a decongestant?
<12> I did for a while
<12> mayeb I should start sudafed again
<4> USMale: I thought I had congestion one time and it turned out I had a plug of wax
<4> man was that a relief when it came out
<12> I have this earwax remover too maybe I'll do both
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