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<0> heya Twobar
<1> hey gop
<2> he is even worse when he is sober
<3> Timur, I agree with that.
<4> Timur: exactly
<5> Lupine, more like a fifth before 9am
<6> Timur: That too.
<5> gop hi
<1> gop: right, but inculcating them with an understanding of its value is hugely important.
<5> I bet Ted can't get out of bed without a drink
<0> Timur: so why won't liberal legasator accept school vouchers or mereit pay
<0> why???
<2> Lol or a chamber maid with a 1 ton hoist :)
<4> Timur: they have to see it ... they have to see how the guys with less education don't get the better jobs .. they can't see that in the cl***room
<5> why does he drink ? Because he would have been president, if he hadn't been a craven coward who left that girl to drown
<0> Timur: so why won't liberal legasator accept school vouchers or mereit pay
<4> gop: because it would destroy their one size fits all mentality
<6> OcDoc: heh a better education doesnt guarantee a better job ;/
<0> OcDoc: well that why american school are falling
<3> gop, Timur isn't, if you haven't noticed, the king of the liberals.
<1> gop: some do, but there's no proof they work
<4> Twobar: he's a bad enough excuse for a human without making up **** about it
<5> Timur is the king of the liberals !
<0> Timur: no proof,
<6> gop: Vouchers are bull**** redistribution of wealth.
<0> Timur: that flawed logic
<1> it's broke, in some senses, but it's not seen as broken beyond repair
<4> icmps: no, but it sure helps
<5> OcDoc, very true. Even without that incident, he's beyond repair
<6> gop: AND they will eventually subject private schools to the same regulation as public ones.
<0> icmps: no it not
<0> icmps: it your money
<0> to do what ever you want for your kids education
<6> gop: You're goddamn right. It's MY money. Not some families who wants to send their kids to another school
<0> icmps: well that not the type of school voucher I accept
<1> gop: perhaps, but since policymaking is not made by educators much, but people with, say, legal backgrounds, the most common measure of what determines policy is quantitative analysis, and such analysis in the case of, say, vouchers is not compelling.
<0> icmps: they also pay taxes
<6> gop: That's the only voucher available from a government.
<4> Twobar: you're just trying to trick me into explaining for the twelfth time how he didn't kill her or leave her to die
<0> icmps: your not the only person who pays dam taxes
<5> OcDoc yes he did
<0> icmps: did I say federal voucher
<5> it was 24 hours before he called the authorities
<0> I stated state voucher
<4> Twobar: no he didn't
<6> gop: If they're paying taxes to get it back as a voucher... why pay it in the first place?
<6> gop: That's needless bureaucracy..
<0> and that is give the parnets money so they can use for example home school
<5> he ran a mile to a farm house
<5> and did nothing for her
<0> icmps: becuase it the law
<0> icmps: why do you pay taxes
<5> A CLOSE encounter between Greenpeace and a harpoon has sharpened tensions over whaling off the Australian Antarctic Territory. The harpoon from the Yushin Maru No. 2 was fired just ahead of a Greenpeace inflatable in front of the ship's starboard bow, images released by Japan's whaling agency, the Institute for Cetacean Research, show
<6> gop: Low-income families receiving vouchers would equate to income redistribution.
<7> twobar: but he is a kennedy.. so its "acceptable"
<0> icmps: did I say low income
<6> gop: Because I'm compelled. rofl
<0> I said those who pay taxes
<1> ok, tired eyes
<4> Twobar: you've had several weeks to read the real story since I pointed you in the right direction
<1> later, bbl
<0> icmps: did I say low income
<0> I said those who pay taxes
<5> Lupine, the Kennedy's built their empire on illegal booze. How noble.
<5> OcDoc, I've never discussed this with you before.
<0> icmps: if public school want to keep middle cl*** student in thier public school, compention would rise
<6> gop: If voucher programs are restricted to tax paying citizens.. Why not just ****ing CUT taxes by the amount of the voucher and not collect them in the first place?
<0> so that state school compete with public, icmps it called surival of the fittest
<4> TWobar: really?
<4> my mistake
<6> gop: Instead of collecting money just to give it right back-- dont collect it.
<5> OcDoc yes heh
<0> low income must surive to be the fittest, and competion is good in a free market
<4> Twobar: this is how it happened
<6> gop: You and I both know damn well that there's costs ***ociated with tax collection.
<6> gop: Not all of that money is returned as a voucher.
<5> Here's a cl***ic: Michael Moore had or has stock with Haliburton. What a putz
<0> icmps: well we can not taxes people, that is not taxes them on education
<4> Twobar: Kennedy and Kopechne left in the car to go neck at a notorious lovers' lane
<0> if thier kid don't go to state school that my opnion
<0> Twobar: he did hahah
<2> So its true then? that Iran is to host a scientific world study on the validity of the holocaust? What intelligent country would participate in such a deception?
<5> yep
<4> Twobar: while they were parked, the island patrol officer drove by and saw the car
<5> ugh necking with Ted Kennedy
<0> icmps: if we didn't tax people who choose not to send thier kid to state education
<0> that is in a freemarket
<6> jbl: Is it more deceptive to accept blindly the 'official' story?
<0> school would compete
<8> IamKing: Do you think the president a bad guy or the bald guy with the gl***es ??
<4> Twobar: he drove down a ways to turn around and roust the "kids" and Kennedy didn't want to be recognized
<0> icmps: if we didn't tax people who choose not to send thier kid to state education
<0> school would compete
<0> that is in a freemarket
<3> icmps, the reason you would just not collect it is that a rich family pays enough for several kids to go to school where as a poor family the money redistribution makes sure that every kid can go to school even if they couldn't afford it themselves.
<4> Twobar: Kennedy got out of the car and told Kopechne to drive it back to the party
<0> icmps: competion is good
<3> *you wouldn't
<2> icmps i disagree , maybe 100 years out , but there are still ppl alive today that have a firm take on the happenings
<6> P_O: gop says only tax payers get vouchers
<6> :P
<3> icmps, there are different types of tax payers.
<4> Twobar: Kennedy walked back to the party and was surprised to find that she had not yet returned
<0> icmps: I said yes, if they choose not to send thier to private education
<3> Someone who's on the 15% bracket probably isn't going to aford sending two kids to school.
<6> Heh. Well, that still amounts to redistribution-- which I'm against. and I hadn't thought of that.
<0> icmps: and don't taxes those who don't have kids
<4> Twobar: his aids went back out to look for her and found the car submerged
<9> blindly accept the "offical" story? have you seen the camps and the lamp shades made of skin, or met anyone with a numbered tattoo on there arm? or the m*** graves they uncovered, before they started burning people. icmps?
<3> icmps, you're against the govt. in general, so why debate anything?
<3> :P
<6> :)
<6> you're right ;
<6> :P
<0> icmps: and don't taxes those who don't have kids
<9> good grief, it is documented
<4> Twobar: she apparently got lost going back to the party and went off the bridge in the dark ... they tried to rescue her but could not get the door open
<5> OcDoc, why on earth would you believe THAT story over the one we've heard since the day it all happened ? What gives that one credibility ?
<4> Twobar: they came back to the party soaking wet and told Kennedy to get lost while they called for help
<6> JanetB: 9/11 is "documented" but yet has areas of disagreement. An intelligent, civilized debate is never bad.
<4> Twobar: because there were witnesses to every step
<4> with no reason to lie and the story adds up only one way
<5> OcDoc, uh huh. So a few poeple lied for Teddy 40 years after the fact ?
<9> icmps.... what was done to those people is well documented, to say it never happened it simply lying
<4> their depositions were taken before Kennedy put together his lies later
<4> Twobar: nope ... at the time of the incident
<5> OcDoc, I NEVER heard anything remotely like that.
<6> JanetB: I dont know what they're saying. But a debate as to the 'official story' is not a bad thing.
<7> why would teddy lie about being the driver?
<9> icmps.. so pictures lie?
<9> hmm
<9> whatever...
<4> Kennedy went down to the ferry but it had closed for the night so he swam across to Edgartown and went to his hotel
<3> Pictures can very easily lie.
<6> JanetB: Pictures can be taken out of context..
<5> <4> Kennedy went down to the ferry but it had closed for the night so he swam across to Edgartown and went to his hotel
<6> Like the
<5> THAT makes sense ?
<5> come on
<5> He was drunk as a pig
<4> Lupine where did you get the idea she was belted into the p***enger side?
<6> the "crowd" surrounding the US troops as they demolished Saddams statue..which later turned out to only be a small group of people. ;)
<6> Pictures themselves CAN be deceptive.
<4> Twobar: he was trying to get out of the picture for the investigation of her death
<5> OcDoc, at least that part is true
<4> Twobar: it doesn't have to make sense ... we already know he was a lying sack of ****
<4> Twobar: his spinmeister aids at the party told to get away
<10> Twobar learned the Crips hand signs so now he can fake that he's one of them.
<3> lol
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