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<Katey> allan5oh, eh. it's possible that he's nowhere near there though.
<Fr33Trade> Ironically, conservative Ronald Reagan was one of Carter's most articulate critics. Reagan argued that the draft sign-up not only would "do little to enhance our military preparedness" but could "actually decrease our military preparedness, by making people think we have solved our defense problems." An even more "fundamental objection," said Reagan, was moral: "draft registration destroys the very values that our society is comm
<Fr33Trade> too long
<Fr33Trade> let me chop it up
<Fr33Trade> Ironically, conservative Ronald Reagan was one of Carter's most articulate critics. Reagan argued that the draft sign-up not only would "do little to enhance our military preparedness" but could "actually decrease our military preparedness,
<Fr33Trade> by making people think we have solved our defense problems." An even more "fundamental objection," said Reagan, was moral: "draft registration destroys the very values that our society is committed to defending."[1]
<redfish> pie
<Katey> allan5oh, he's probably shaved his beard, cut his hair, and bought a condo in Miami. :P
<Katey> redfish, what sort of pie?
<allan5oh> who knows, i hope they catch that bastard though
<Fr33Trade> Reagan though who had been critical of the Draft since the 1960s, didnt try to repel registration, and under his administration 20-25 people were arrested fro non compliance with Carters law.
<ATdept> regeans defends alot with no memory indeed
<Fr33Trade> 20 to stand corrected
<xtac> why is bill maher still on tv
<ATdept> good ideas happen to those who forget them
<xtac> nice
<mgorpipe> Feminist claim: "prostitution is men exploiting women". Most western hooker girls CHOSE to become hookers and then ***ist feminist pigs strategically use that choice to label males "exploiters". The only time she believes her "its our body" argument is when she wants to kill something. But when girls wont to thrill something its "exploitation". Mpower. (abortion for female fetuses ONLY. Still like aboriton?).
<US-Male> that guy is such a freak
<Fr33Trade> Yeah 1975 if you were born after Ford abolished the registration for draft, till 1980 when Carter reinstated it.
<Fr33Trade> US you were 18 before 1980 and registered?
<US-Male> FT yeah
<Fr33Trade> Think of all the money we waster registering.
<US-Male> I was 18 in 1979
<Fr33Trade> They should abolish it.
<Fr33Trade> if this country cant get enough volunteers for a war then it shouldnt fight the war.
<ke6i> Republicans should come out as the 'pro-prostitution' party.
<ke6i> Good luck on that one.
<redfish> ke6i has a large mucus membrane
<ke6i> all volunteer army was the smartest thing the USA has done.
<Fr33Trade> And if it needs more and cant get them, they need to up the price, this would make the law of supply and demand and individual free will and contract the governing factor.
<ATdept> fr33trade has a point...revoking military privy is for everyone
<Fr33Trade> And I think Capitalism should rule almost every segment of our society..
<ATdept> its FT at that point
<ATdept> talk about rights
<ATdept> i may as well give ours up now
<Fr33Trade> Whenever a supply and demand equation can be used to satisfy demand, then it should be used , and never should coersion be used.
<Fr33Trade> Americans when threatened usually initially volunteer in large numbers.
<ke6i> US military has done well since the all-volunteer army. And besides there aren't many good jobs for the C-student/Jr. College types.
<ATdept> FT americans aid in large numbers when iran has a severe earthquake too
<ATdept> nothing like good faith
<US-Male> I registered for the draft that year, and voted for a libertarian for President
<Fr33Trade> ke6i, Best military we have had since ww2, And the only reason ww2 was better was because they had a huge stake in the outcome and people volunteered by the droves.. And it was a hard fougth war which made americans turn from lousy to some of the best soilders in the war.
<ATdept> nothing like giving to the string catch of peace
<ATdept> ill give to that organization any day and 7 times on easter sunday
<Fr33Trade> What I mean is we didnt have an effective standing army prior to ww2, WW1 was the war to end all wars. and so nobody planned for a future war, especially not us americans.
<ke6i> What I'm not sure about, is my understanding is some people in Iraq are there longer, than what they signed up for duty-wise?
<Fr33Trade> so when it started we did drills in boot camp with wooden toy rifles.
<Fr33Trade> Thats how low we were with supplies
<US-Male> '79 was the year that redfish became a tadpole
<ATdept> fear factor is doing well as a tv show
<Fr33Trade> we had a m***ive ramp up and eventually became the fastest producer of Ships, airplanes and trucks in world history
<ke6i> I saw fear factor once, and it was kind of boring.
<Fr33Trade> Actually I should modify that to say, not before the war, but before US involvment, we trained 2 years before even considering sending americans over there... as it was called back then.
<panini> ke6i, it appears to be mainly about eating bugs
<Fr33Trade> hehe
<TheTailor> Fr33Trade, I bet if you ask any Army officer he will tell you we now have the best trained/equipped force in world history.
<Fr33Trade> I have never seen it and I dont care to watch people eat bugs ;)
<TheTailor> Hell, any of the services.
<ATdept> heh
<ATdept> saddam measured the bug factor
<Fr33Trade> TT, YEs I think thats clearly true because not only the quality of the soildier, the discipline, he can not use drugs or he is out for example, and they do get tested regularly. Andalong with the best discipline ever you have the best military technology ever in the history of warfare.
<US-Male> yeah I bet Saddam was laughing af "fear factor"
<ke6i> Fear Factor probably copied from Japanese shows, which have been doing the 'eating weird ****' shows for a long time.
<US-Male> "I will show you fear, western pigs!'
<Fr33Trade> But Iraq has also proven we dont only have a computerized army we have a good old style army too or marines, which did urban fighting house by house in Iraq.. and proved their worth.
<US-Male> Japanese society it ***ually freaky
<US-Male> *is
<Fr33Trade> ack, I was looking up as some of my typing..
<Fr33Trade> ack!
<ke6i> Unlike totally non-perverse USA.
<TheTailor> Fr33Trade, there are far more Army guys doing that house to house **** tan Marines, not that what ehy aren't doing isn't damn dangerous too.
<US-Male> we're "diverse pervers"
<TheTailor> ke6i, non perverse?
<US-Male> Japan is just full of straight-out freaks
<allan5oh> freetrade.. didnt the automotive industry have lots to do with production during ww2?
<US-Male> tentacle ***, you name it
<Fr33Trade> ke6I the USA doesnt have cartoons in coin dispensed machined in the best areas in tokyo where people buy openly and without shame, cartoons of ***ual abuse of children..
<US-Male> no other nation can compete with "used panty vending machines"
<ke6i> USA has some people with some pretty ****ed up ***uality also. Japan has porn everywhere.
<US-Male> for freak factor
<US-Male> ke6i: differnece is, it's considered weird here
<ke6i> USA pretty kinky, overall, imo.
<TheTailor> US-Male, not by ke6i :-)
<ATdept> ive seen some wierd clothes too at a shopping mall
<US-Male> ke6i, no not overall
<ATdept> and said that **** there....man that ****s for freakz
<US-Male> ke6i: if US was kinky overall, it would not be called "kinky" anymore
<US-Male> it would be called "normal"
<Fr33Trade> There is definately a different culturein Japan about some ***ual things which are taboo in america,like child *** taboos. Anime has a lot of child *** and violence in it, I have a theory about Japan, they soak up all this **** for decades and they are peaceful, but when they have a chance to let go their pent up ***ual frustration and violence, they go overboard, ask any Chinese person about that.
<TheTailor> US-Male, do not judge ke6i's fetish!
<US-Male> hahah
<ke6i> Japanese have less *** than any people on the planet. I think they read more porn, but do less.
<US-Male> hey if ke6i is into tentacles, cartoon kid*** and used panties.... who are we to judge ?
<ke6i> where America has more people living out their perversions.
<Fr33Trade> Now had I used Israel in there even if true which it is not true about Israel, I would of been told to leave the channel ;) A point worth noting because I think people should be free to an extent where it doesnt become bigotry to critisize any nation... Like france.
<ATdept> the japanese surely have *** tho
<ATdept> look at em
<ATdept> its great to watch production in action
<ke6i> Was a news article awhile back. How Japanese have less actual *** than any other country. Everyone is just working allt he time.
<Fr33Trade> I dont think its good for people to fantasize about child ***.
<Fr33Trade> I think of they do they shouldnt repress it, they should say to themselves, wow, I have these perverse fantasys, I need to make sure I dont feed them.
<ATdept> FT and I have a bunch in common
<ATdept> some things are just 1/3 of it
<Fr33Trade> if they do rather.
<US-Male> FT I think the history or Japanese culture regarding their power early in WW2, then defeat by the A-bomb.... is sort of a dominance/submissive thing for them
<US-Male> or=of
<Fr33Trade> To merely suppress these can lead to comission of the act, but to feed it through buying child pornography or even cartoon child pornography I believe is like feeding a taboo which eventually may cause you to act on it.
<ke6i> I think losing a war does increase perversion. And USA became more ***ually perverted following the loss of the Vietnam war, for example.
<US-Male> Japan was incredibly militaritic, and the soldiers devoted 100% to it
<US-Male> then, the A-bomb
<US-Male> *militaristic
<Fr33Trade> ke6i, No actually the US became mroe perverted prior to leaving vietnam
<Fr33Trade> the war ended in 1975, and the ***ual revolution began in 1968.
<ke6i> yeah but about the same time. Writing was on the wall in the late 60's.
<US-Male> they were already into kinky stuff before being beaten
<daglo> Good afternoon and Happy Easter from Canada
<US-Male> but the trauma probably enhanced it
<ke6i> The ***ual preversion comes with 'symbolic castration' of losing a war.
<allan5oh> you have to consider also that the ***ual revolution was a way to rebel against the war
<allan5oh> and other things..
<ATdept> ahh no wonder abortion is legal
<ATdept> because war is evident
<xtac> There would be no war if people got sufficent omega 3 fatty acids.
<ke6i> Yeah defeated and depression, sort of turn the ***ual drive in other directions I think.
<ATdept> war breeds kids
<Fr33Trade> I was cleaning out a garage in berkeley when some photos fell down, and it was poloroids of a 4some having bi***ual *** with each other, I would say such libertine attitudes helped us lose the war rather than were a result of the war. Though I guess the was had some small part to play in every movement of the late 60s and early 70s
<ke6i> Dietary explanation for war?
<ATdept> call it a baby boom or whatever
<xtac> I believe so
<Fr33Trade> No it coincidedwith the equal rights movement which started independently of the war.
<xtac> There was an article in the NYT magazine that talked about it also.
<Fr33Trade> The ***ual revolution, The Black Revolutions.. Etc
<Fr33Trade> IT was a time to break all social taboo and some social wrongs.
<xtac> the ERA was a joke
<ke6i> well I think naturally with 'winning new territory' there's an impulse to make lots of babies to populate that land. With losing territory, your children are fighting for the same resources you are.
<redfish> freetrade the youth culture
<Fr33Trade> and from most of these movements came both good and bad.
<Fr33Trade> And the Environmental movement.
<Fr33Trade> it was the era of the hippy
<redfish> freetrade, but it was just the end of a long trend that started around the beginning of the 20th century, rebelling against tradition
<ke6i> that's why the Baby Boom followed WWII.
<US-Male> well just remember -- it's only kinky the first time!
<US-Male> then it's just ***
<ATdept> not for the ladies ;)
<ke6i> the sense of triumph following WWII leads to more breeding. The sense of loss and emasculation with Vietnam led to more perversion.
<xtac> *** is hyped up
<ATdept> its all about some kids for the next war
<Fr33Trade> the hippy wasnt an activist about the war initially, later they were indoctrinated by soviety paid activists as well as home grown activists to become political
<ATdept> well of course emotional we are
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