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<0> hahhaa i know i am just being an ***
<1> :)
<2> "Nothing is more precious than independence and liberty."
<3> Fr33Trade -- Let us try to distinguish between what is good for Bush and what is good for the nation
<4> The point of vietnam was to keep america on the warpath.
<5> in 3 years there wont be much money to be made off the Bush presidency.
<2> how many people would be willing to die for that sentiment?
<6> they know all they have to do is wait out the american will
<0> Sweet, no i don't think its happening again, but its definitely touch and go
<2> for the vietnamese, millions
<6> americans are good for about 5 years 10 years they are gone
<5> For one reason is in 3 years Iraq is going to look a hell of a lot more like a success than it does now and we have already made GREAT progress in Iraq.
<6> they can wait
<0> gotta put these beers in the freezer
<7> sweet
<5> I think the funniest thing I read about one of the Military critics of Rumsfield when asked what should change now, the answer is nothing. We finally are where we want to be ....
<7> rumsfeld was already ready to quit twice
<0> friend of mine just joined the national guard, goes to basic in a month, ten off to Iraq
<0> then
<3> Fr33Trade --We success like that , we do not need failures
<6> if I was incharge I would be stirring up trouble between sunies and shiets let them kill each other
<5> Ok if thats so why fire Rumsfield when things in Iraq are finally right where they should be ?
<8> Fr33Trade oh, that's easy. ATTAB
<7> freetradE: cause he is the guy that says they are right where they should be?
<5> A lot of these guys were complaining more about the military culture than actual specific causes.
<9> night folks
<8> Any Thing To Attack Bush
<7> rumsfeld == bush ?
<6> We need to have a world war against the terrorist states why not now
<6> **** it
<6> go for it
<7> he cant stand alone in the spotlight on the issue of his own personal incompetence ?
<7> rumsfeld is a reason that people attack bush
<6> my granddaughter dont need to grow up under this ****
<3> When our military leaves in Iraq, 10 years from now, Iraq will revert to some form which would not be to our liking
<2> oh well
<0> i dunno, i just think Bush has blinked in his efforts against Iran
<10> SweetLeaf, amen this war is gunna go m***ive sooner or later
<7> yes
<0> and North Korea
<3> You cannot bring democracy at the point of a gun
<7> tactical nuke against hardened underground targets @!
<5> For example one complained about subbing out so many ex military jobs to civilians, Examples: Fixing Dinner, Washing dishes, Cleaning latrines, Doing Laundry, Even civilian provided restaraunts when not in the battle field they can order anythign we order here in the states.
<7> aaaman: you can bring democracy - just not liberty
<5> The point is the investment in military men washign laundry or cooking is wasted
<0> i mean we relied on China to reign in North Korea, but the fact is, they did nothing, nor did Russia, in preventing North Korea from obtaining nuclear weapons
<6> like that comercial why not now WHY NOT NOW
<4> AAAman: Whatever George W Bush is liking, the public will not like. The goal is more tyranny in Iraq, not liberation.
<11> this religion special on history channel rocks
<5> and its smart to move away from that and turn it over to private contractors.
<0> so why should we rely on them now, what makes Iran different?
<4> blizzil: give the name.
<12> Hiyooo
<6> the goal who's goal
<11> BAnned from the Bibal
<7> freetrade: if accounting issues are properly vetted
<0> I wonder what China or Russia would do if Iran started squawking about them being "The Great Satan's" of the world
<5> The investment to create a 21str century killing machine is too much to have him as a mechanic, cook, janitor, busboy, or waitress.
<13> Fr33Trade: Question is, does it cost less if contractors do it?
<5> Caspase, the fact is it saves money
<7> still dunno whats up with the gas jockeys at haliburton
<4> blizzil: I'd be bored by it.
<7> and the overbilling issues
<5> MrRod, muchless
<7> but yah
<12> what's up guys?
<13> Fr33Trade: Then it's better.
<7> contract it all out
<5> these generals dont like the loss of military control
<0> obviously they got caught over-billing, whats the problem?
<10> these generals dont like the loss of wars
<5> The very motivation for it was less expense.
<7> of you are gonna have killers, they should be pros at killing - shining boots is for parade stuff
<14> What about Iran ? r u going to bomb them soon or to wait for them to get an atomic bomb ?
<7> they are probably gonna get bombed on i bet
<11> Alot of Gnostic stuff
<11> pretty cool
<7> they got lots of missiles tho
<11> cannan is kinda narrow
<7> sunburn 22 and other nasties
<4> Jango: The idea of Israel or Iran having competently made a working atomic bomb is sure myth.
<6> These generals are thinking of running for office or a book deal or the times is paying them to say it
<5> A solider is a trained killer if he has properly been trained.. One who can live in peacetime according to strict laws and not harm people, but who at the sound of a phone call can turn into a killing machine and fly off to some battlefield.
<13> Jango: You guys may bomb Iran first.
<15> Nuke me
<7> yah israel can bomb iran
<7> they will bomb iran
<7> they said they will bomb iran
<11> I think diplomacy will win here
<5> We have at least a year by every source I have seen before Iran starts elevating itself as a threat
<13> Israel will be in a real ****ty position if Iran gets nukes.
<10> mow the lawn!
<14> We (Israel) can help USA alot to attack Iran
<6> FT usually you are ready to kill after basic and AIT but after a few years it will take getting shot at
<4> MrRod: Israel has the right to bomb Iran. I have no doubt about this. never did. but we needn't police the Middle east.
<11> We give Iran a year or so
<13> lgcbmb: I already did.
<11> with sanctions
<11> hard ones
<7> you got that backwards jango
<11> they'll cave
<10> hah, thats the code words to launch nukes
<6> to bring it all back
<7> we (USA) can help israel alot to attack iran
<7> its your backyard
<7> you deal with the threats
<5> at this point in the process of electing a new sunni leader who can form a coalition with the Sunnis and the Kurds is much more important that distracting Shias by Going to war with Iran.
<13> Jango: I don't think the US wants Israel's help in attacking Iran. At least not public help.
<4> Jango: I would think you could do it alone with US weapons.
<7> yah
<7> weboh
<5> We have plenty of time, If neccesary, to go to war with Iran and we all hope its not neccesary.
<7> screw that mentality
<12> 426Hemi, MrRod, FT, Darth, blizzil, hulloo
<5> but lts face it, they are the largest state sponser of terrorism left in the world.
<15> yo
<7> 'oh USA please help bomb iran - kthx israel"
<0> s'up publius
<7> not cool
<10> Fr33Trade, 6mths isnt plenty of time
<5> Clearly more so than North Korea.
<6> Our people in the services now are like a fine sharpened steel spear because they have been in combat for years now
<12> 426Hemi: hangin out before the Braves game
<0> gonna watch them lose again?
<0> =P
<7> we will give you satellite maps of iran, we will refuel the planes we sold you
<7> maybe even fire off some tomahawks
<0> caspase hey they can even use the radar they built and developed with the USA
<10> canada will provide the peace keeping troops
<4> caspase-9: those satellite maps are from spy planes.
<14> Caspase: Israel is not yet a super power, but just a little country
<12> 426Hemi: they won last night sir. do you have turner south?
<7> there is no such thing as satellites weboh ?
<10> coalition of we kick your ***
<6> They are ready to kick *** if they would turn the war dogs loose on the bad guys but we have Liberals that want us to bow down to terror
<0> Publius, no i only have little ****ty *life line* cable
<5> LGC, Ive listened to nuclear experts who claim the level of enrichment they have achieved would take a year with a hell of a lot more centrifuges that they currently has, so thats saying basically we have a year to talk, Now if a Dirty bomb goes off in NY or Los Angelos in the next 6 months, I would say it was time for immediate war with Iran.
<13> Jango: Israel has the best army in the middle east. It's army is not so little.
<4> Jango: they used to be the greatest power in the middle east. Why are they suddenly weak?
<7> jango: if you aren't a superpower, then tell your government to quit starting **** with people
<5> It would be easy enough to trace the material back to Iran probably, if it came from Iran.
<6> FT why do we always have to get hit first??
<5> Yep, Israel does have the best army in the middle east, but it does have problem with the range..
<11> Kinda screwed up
<12> 426Hemi: I love my super comcast...especially cause I hardly pay for it!
<6> I got hit once first in my life that was it
<7> yah its not like radio isotopes are hard to find an origin for
<11> I was here in 2003
<6> the rest is pre emted
<14> Iran is a big country, and has alot targets, that we can't attack them all...
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