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<0> fr33 no
<0> fr33 nope
<1> btw: anyone know if the US is going to ban the palestinian authority govn't from the US/UN building, now that Hamas is in charge?
<2> I think I have spoke to you about 5 times and you didnt even acknowlege I was here ;)
<3> UN = Uccomplish Nothing! :P
<0> fr33 sorry
<2> Probably too much people pasting
<1> l0c0: that itself is not the problem really..
<2> o problem at all
<4> well what DO you want the UN to accomplish
<0> fr33 ya did ya see my news article
<1> l0c0: even if the gun WAS unloaded, he did so many things wrong.
<4> if you give a governing body no power, then what do you expect?
<1> i cringe when I watch how he sweeps the crowd with teh gun
<2> I just respect your opinion and would of liked you to tel me what you thought of some of the things I was saying..
<2> But no big deal.
<0> ok
<0> oh about the genarals?
<5> genarals
<5> sounds like a type of medicine
<2> Sting and the culture of bureacracy and all that
<6> Lup: you know I got the goods, dude, so whatever :)
<7> sounds like a type of genital diseases
<7> ahh man, you got the genarals?? thats bad dude
<8> !seen *!*@*.us
<2> I cant stand Wesley whats his face, he sounds more like a ***** to me than a military general what kind of combat experience does he have if any ?
<6> Lup: not afaik, but they are banning all trade with the PA until Hamas renounces
<6> FT: Gen. Wesley Clark
<9> if you cant believe 5 genarals who can you trust?
<0> fr33 yep
<10> These Generals are now civilians
<0> fr33 he is a *****
<4> haha
<4> so much for respecting the troops
<4> woooooooooo
<2> Yeah Wesley Clark I dont like at all, in fact i think he is borderline oh, Anti American slightly and maybe its because he was general of a multinational Nato force.
<1> Heh.. imagine if todays leftoid media were back in WWII, writing about Patton and Monty's little "spats"
<0> igc well most generals didnt think we needed planes either and busted billy mitchell
<11> The guy cleared the weapon
<10> Generals are using 20/20 hindsight, but the Iraq was wacko
<11> heh then let the action forward
<1> Fr33: I know that Clark seriously pissed off alot of US soldiers, as he seemed to forget he was a US general, before Nato
<12> yeah whenver I see "Wesley Clark" I think "Weasel Clark"
<11> must have been one in the chamber heh
<12> Weasely
<7> I don't think Wes Clark is Anti American, but i think he is borderline freakin WHACKED in the head
<11> he shoots himself
<0> fr33 wesley clark is a traitor
<13> I like Wesley
<11> is everyone ok
<11> heh
<1> sweet: He "cleared" the weapon with the magazine still inserted.
<10> There is nothing to support reagarding the civilian handling of this war. To say so is to disregard reality
<4> The next month, February 1970, then 25, Clark was wounded by a sniper in the jungle. Ambushed by the Viet Cong, Clark was shot four times (in the right shoulder, right hand, right hip and right leg) before he could find cover. He managed to shout commands to troops, who launched a counterattack and defeated the enemy force. He was awarded the Bronze Star and Silver Star:
<0> blizzil hey brother veteran
<4> definitely a coward and a traitor
<4> just like Murtha
<11> I dont show but the action is back after he clears it
<13> Hey Stingray hows it going?
<0> murtha can kiss my ***
<11> then he lets it go
<0> blizill well got another article in local paper
<7> Murtha is a dumb *** straight up....
<11> then he shoots his **** almost
<4> i'm sure he would jump at the opportunity
<13> Nice !
<13> brb
<0> ty
<10> Generals were quiet regarding Vietnam
<13> Im about to go lift and run
<0> fr33 hey bbiab goin to the beach
<2> Lupine, yeah and any strategy from the mmilitary or the white house which in any war, ANY WAR, States outright, that "We will not USE FOOT SOLDIERS NOR WILL WE USE BLACKHAWKS OR OTHER APPRORPIATE SUPPORT AIR CRAFT IN THE THEATER.
<11> now he is sueing
<1> sweet: you can tell by how cavalier he is handlign it, he has no business having one. let alone teachign others. The guy did just about every thing wrong in the book
<0> blizill cool i be at the beach
<11> for him being a ****
<2> Thats 100 ****ing Insane to take someting off the table in front of your enemy
<12> CLark has strange views of the world
<2> If pressed you shouldnt even say we wont use nukes.
<0> fr33 clinton letf 19 marines on the ground dead why? cause the ****ing tard would not send in the big gun ships to help them
<10> Unfortunately, you need a rebellion in the Pentagon to make sense
<1> fr33: well, not even "wont".. but rather, clarify. We will not use nuclear weapons unless used upon us.
<8> how is correct "after 3 months of experince of working" or "after 3 months experince of working" ?
<5> who was ross perots running mate in 92?
<8> sorry im not native us =)
<0> stockdale
<5> he should be picked for sec. of defense
<14> Hi all
<5> right
<2> We may decide we wont use nukes but how does it help your war to say we wont use nukes, or we wont use ground troops, or we wont use an ac130 support killer at nigth. or whatever
<5> stockdale
<11> I am the only one in this room good enough to handle a gun bam heh
<5> i was thinking stockton for some reason
<4> that's right
<0> sweet wanna bet
<4> we should have used nukes on china
<4> then we would have won the Vietnam war
<13> Hell = Distance from god
<5> Stockdale would be a good DoD head
<4> pretty easy
<5> mhmm
<14> My name is Moshe and i'm from Israel
<13> Id be a good DoD head
<1> the thing is, why wouldn't you use the AC130 spectre.. it's great for pin-point accuracy of ground fire. better than the apache and A-10's..
<5> never mind the moral reasons behind nuclear weapons
<0> we shoiuld send the now national org of woman to iran they will nag the clerics to death
<10> Quarter Of Men Skipping Critical Vasectomy Follow-Up Tests ...
<1> barnes: we refused to use our bombers effectively for 10+ years. THAT, more than anything else, lead to our defeat
<0> hey all laterz off to the beach
<2> Lupine, if I am president in a state of war, and the press says to me. Mr President can you ***ure us you wont use nuclear weapons if we go to war with Korea ? If I was the president, i would say. I would neither confirm nor deny that we would use any weapon in the us Military arsenal ever during a potential talk about war or during a time of war.
<4> how much ordanance was dropped on Vietnam?
<4> and did the NV care?
<2> To me a 5 year old can see the stupidity of telegraphing your moves to the enemy as being stupid.
<4> the NV were willing to suffer incalculable losses
<9> meanwhile in the Philippines, nine Filipinos re-enacted the crucifixion by nailing themselves to a wooden cross as scores of other pilgrims flagellated themselves
<1> barnes: ah.. the problem was.. WHERE they had to drop them
<7> i disagree, we killed 2-3 million vietnamese, the reason we lost the war is because of idiots at home
<1> barnes: our planes would fly right past fat-laden tankers.. in pristine, untouched harbors.. that our boys coulnd't bomb. No, we had to fly into the jungle, and try to bomb 55gallon barrels on a mud trail.
<14> What about Iran ? what r USA waiting for ?
<9> 426Hemi, yeah, wining required total escalation
<2> When in Serbia, I head Clinton Say, we will not use ground forces in this conflict, I thought to Myself, Oh my god, This is exactly why you dont put people in the presidency with no intelligence about war or geo politics.
<10> This should not be a factor: v criticizing the defense secretary is the equivalent of criticizing Bush's own stewardship of the war.
<4> lupine, i have no background with which to check your facts. =/
<1> if we had done Operation Linebacker in 1965...
<2> I think people like, ZInni
<11> that video is cl***ic that guy will never live that one down hahahah
<2> And the other general who buy the way 2 of them are writing books..
<2> This gets them a lot of attention
<11> What a **** with a big D
<10> retired generals now leveling the criticism -- Cut and Rubn
<4> This is exactly why you dont put people in the presidency with no intelligence about war or geo politics.
<9> When (Clemenceau) said that, 50 years ago, he might have been right. But today, war is too important to be left to politicians. They have neither the time, the training, nor the inclination for stategic thought.
<1> barnes: there's tons of good material out there.. but in a nutshell: the US military couldn't fight effectively. So many targets were "off limits".. and i'm talking about those in vietnam, not even those in China, etc
<4> ...Bush?
<11> I watched the thing 10 times fell out laughing it is funny cause no one is dead
<10> Criticism became so heated during the Abu Ghraib prison scandal in Iraq during the 2004 presidential election that Mr. Rumsfeld twice offered his resignation, he has said.
<2> and thebush hating left wing will spend almost as much money on books as the more serious rightwing bookbuyer. I read 6 bigraphies of Reagans presidency, a lot of the common beleifs about his presidency are complete myths.
<4> so if ineffective = 2-3 million dead, effective = 10-20 million? would that have been sufficient?
<4> the political debate is poisoned by partisans, and it's only fair
<7> i believe that if americans supported vietnam more effectively at home, Vietnam would have capitulated
<4> that both sides take up each other's methods
<15> whew been painting since 7:30 am
<15> would rather code
<7> rond thats why i like cameras;)
<2> But back to my point,People like Zinni, and one infantry commander who fought in This war should be required by law to shutup until the wars over, then they can critisize it until they are blue in the face
<15> no house painting
<11> rusty the same thing is happening all over again
<2> of course the time to make money is right now
<7> hahhaa i know i am just being an ***
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