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<0> and have some knowledge on gahndi
<0> I repsect him
<0> gahndi that is
<0> but I also say he was weak person, for not standing
<0> to the person who wanted him dead
<1> sikh, The story of Khalsa.. and the reason why today seikh are supposed to have a knife concealed in their turbines and they did until 911 and metal detectors ;)
<1> Ghandi was weak ?
<0> Fr33Trade lol
<1> In your opinion ?
<1> Seriously ?
<0> Fr33Trade he was none violtent
<0> yes
<1> I think he was man of great strength
<0> Fr33Trade it did slove some problems
<0> but in indian
<0> they still many problems
<1> and he was not the pacifist people take him to be.
<2> i saw someone at the bus station they took him to the 'special room' just because he was dressed in tradition seikh clothes
<0> Fr33Trade he was violent person, but he is protayed as a pacifist
<1> He was once asked if you could use arms to free yourself from your enemies do you consider that wrong ?
<0> Fr33Trade wow what he say
<0> never new this
<0> I learned something new
<1> He said no, Not at all. But the British are a Noble people and a Noble enemy, and so I choose p***ive resitance instead of armed revolution.
<0> Fr33Trade but I think he was weak
<0> he didn't unite the indians
<2> that doesnt seem to fade anyone, the consensus seems to be to give up freedom for a false sense of security
<0> they have a large kaste system
<1> You see, Ghandi would have died and never suceeded had he used violence, he would of failed.
<0> which is not great
<0> but how also uniting his own people
<0> not having a cl*** system
<1> Mastefully he choose p***ive resistance and non violence, and preached it to others.. And this attracted the attention of the world and even the British people.
<0> why must one indian be lower then the other
<1> He couldnt unite his own people, the hindus and seikhs and muslims all have petty hatreds of each other
<0> Fr33Trade wow
<1> Not all
<1> btu some
<0> see
<1> Enough to cause a civil war.
<2> if ghandi tried to go to the airport today they'd strip search him and probe all his cavities, he wouldnt resist at all
<0> pakistians and indian don't like each other
<0> even in america
<0> you can see the tenession
<0> execpt those indians or pakis born here
<1> Ghandi tried to resist ill treatment at first.
<0> but those who come frm indian
<1> He said Look I am a British lawyer, I am studied.. You can not treat me this way..
<1> But they did because his skin was brownish, and he was an Indian.
<0> I respect that Fr33Trade for that I do give to him
<0> he was a men of his word
<0> Fr33Trade was it true, that he spent of his young life in britian
<1> He was a great man I dont think anyone can deny it and be taken seriously.
<0> and never had race attack
<0> until he was in africa
<0> and indian
<1> Gopp, he was educated in England.
<2> so is that the plan? we should all just be mini-ghandis and die martyrs while cultural imperialism rages on?
<1> He became a lawyer.
<0> when they forced him to the back of train
<0> becuase in england he was never subjected to the back of the train
<1> His first civil disobedience movement as you know began in south africa.
<1> then he took it to India
<0> as it implied he always went on first cl***
<1> in South Africa he learned that resistance didnt work, he tried to resist, and ended up beaten and in jail.
<0> cuase from what I recall, it was in south africa he was sent to the back of the train, even with iwhen he was able to afford first cl***
<1> A high lawyer well educated in the finest British school
<0> Fr33Trade yepe
<0> was he born in indian, and as a young lad sent to britian
<0> he sure was very eduated
<0> educated
<1> So from there he wisely chose to turn the cheek, Not because he liked being slapped, becuase if he didnt he couldnt win.
<1> And martin Luther King learned from him..
<1> We could of had a slave uprising like in Liberia and the blacks could of ran around and beheaded white men.
<2> where's the Ghandi's and Martin Luther King Jr.s of today? there arent any they are all considered terrorists?
<1> But they didnt..
<1> Think if you were black..
<1> How woudl you feel what would you do ?
<1> If you were treated worse than a dog..
<3> Resistance has worked
<1> even well after slavery was abolishes
<1> d
<3> Non-violent resistence has also worked
<0> Fr33Trade you always making me think
<4> brb
<1> Sometimes resistance works and violence works,often it doesnt.
<0> always keeping me on my toes
<0> Fr33Trade that what I like about you, you make me think
<0> ask me questions
<1> If the palestinians could learn p***ive resistant the whole world would be on their side and force israel to make great concessions they otherwise would never dream of giving.
<1> Gopp, I appreciate that, some people think I just ramble on ;)
<0> Fr33Trade they need to learn a thing or two
<0> palestintine that is
<0> cool
<2> is non-violent resistance a viable cause today? if so is anyone actually doing it?
<1> Gopp, i can identify more with MalcolmX, especially earlier in my life..
<0> I think of my self more of a free sprite
<3> Sometimes I wonder if Israel uses counterintelligence operations to sabotauge any form of non-violent resistence
<0> I don't go with the flow, I try to travel the road less travel
<5> a free sprite?
<5> as in a graphical glitch? lol
<0> what that poem the road less travel
<3> 1 in 6 sprite caps wins free 20oz
<1> If I had been black and in Mississippi in 1960, I might of been violent, I cant know.. But the malcolm X who gaive up racism and his hatred of whites. This man went from an angry violent man to a very elightened muslim.
<2> wiretapp: like media black-outs of non-violent palestinian protest? only media coverage of violent outbreaks?
<1> A lot of muslims today could learn from him
<5> i consider myself a sprite that has gone flat
<1> His group of course the black muslims have are a cult of bigots.
<0> Fr33Trade but the blank panthera where violent
<1> But thats why they killed him.
<2> if there are global media-blackouts of any non-violent resistance is it wonder all the media covers is violent protest?
<1> They murdered MalcolmX because he gave up his racism and his hatred.
<3> zippie hard to prove thats done with maline non-violence is boring I was thinking more along the line of ******inating the non-violent types and egging on the violent ones
<0> zippie that all that sells
<1> Farrkhan many believe was part of the plot.
<0> zippie but we seen month ago
<1> We may never know.
<0> zippie in florida none violent protest in front of jeb bush office
<0> do you recall
<1> Zippie, press likes abnormality
<0> it was all over the news, about the kid who got shut
<1> Or sensaitonalism
<6> the "shoot first" law?
<6> i love it
<7> Fr33Trade do you know anything about Gallaudet protest?
<6> i wish it was everywhere :/
<0> Fr33Trade hannity and clomes love to shout or rant about sensaitonalism
<0> and it get me agnry
<1> they dont want to do the nightly news on the p***ivity and cooperation and lack of violence in the Kurdish communities in Northern Iraq..
<0> I can't listen to the shout match on clomes and hannity show
<1> OR in some shia communities in Southern Iraq.
<2> Fr33Trade: yeah they call them the 'rogue media' that cover the non-violent protests
<0> Fr33Trade you never get livid at clomes
<0> or greta senatiliosm story
<0> like that aruba girl
<0> god that not important news
<0> iran is
<1> Well I am not talking about protests per se, very few protests I have seen were non violent, I give the hispanics great credit for their protests, they can be proud..
<1> There were a few ***holes as always
<0> Fr33Trade yepe, but I was against the protest
<7> Fr33Trade do you know anything about Gallaudet protest?
<0> as they where headed by answer
<1> but the majority of hispanics seeking legal status were very well disciplines.
<0> Fr33Trade at least in nyc
<1> disciplined
<0> answer headed some of the protest
<1> surfer, Nothing at all
<7> okay
<1> I dont even know who Gallaudet is.
<1> or what it is.
<0> Fr33Trade I had to defend my support of illegal workers
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