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<0> the honda hybrids barley get better gas milage than the normal civis do;p
<0> it goes from 40 to 50
<1> In city driving my honda gets 15 mpg actually 14.xx rarely 15
<2> well 50 is great
<0> some of those strange toyota ones have advertised like 78
<3> 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000
<1> I was excited and in disbelief last time because I got almost 19
<4> not that i would get the thing
<3> oops
<5> fule mileage is LARGLY dependent on how you drive the vehicle
<4> ticket city
<2> that's why I own Honda stock
<1> But I remembered I was doing a lot of freeway driving
<0> very much so
<0> and how much weight you put in it
<5> the sticker MPG means jack ****
<1> Why do you own honda Panini ?
<5> the system is 15 years old
<2> cuz it's made me a whole lot of money :)
<1> They are great cars, Very powerful, confortable, Handle well, Look good. anti theft, Good Safety enginerring.
<2> and Honda will do well with rising gas prices
<1> But they dont get the gas mileage they say
<0> one of the good things though about driving large vehicles is that mpg means something. My old pathfinder got 15 road, 18 freeway...regardless of how many friends I had in it, how much luggage in the back, whether I was going up hills
<0> it was pretty much all the same
<0> though in my civic....
<1> they also have high resale value
<2> more ppl will switch to Hondas
<5> free, how do you know?
<0> 4 people in the car going up a hill vs 1 person in a car driving flat = 10 mpg difference
<0> easily
<5> have you done calculations?
<5> does the term "real world driving" mean any thing to you?
<1> Honda beats Toyota, but heh, They dont get 50, unless your talking about the 2 seater metro***ual LXS
<2> the hybrids get BETTER mileage in the city
<0> i've always liked hondas
<5> are you ignoreing what i am saying? the sticker MPG system is 15 years old
<3> cause of recaptured breaking energy
<1> How do I know ? Tests on Honda and Toyota... Hondas are better.
<5> who tested it?
<0> people talk so much **** about civics....i don't get why. Cheap reliable commute car. very good to have
<1> Oh you mean hybrid panini
<1> Im thinking of buying ford
<1> F
<2> toyota is bigger, but I like honda better
<2> especially the Acura line
<3> suna I think everyone knows Civics do all that
<1> I think ford is going to come out with a ton of new products soon
<6> toyota are manlier somehow
<5> subaru is the finest cars to come out of japan
<1> lots of flex fuel which is a waste
<3> but not everyone wants the same thing in a car
<1> there is no infrastructure or supply for flex fuel.
<7> my corolla gets 30+ mpg
<1> Which is why I want Deisal.
<4> you kind of have to **** it up and be a man to buy a Honda
<5> sticker MPG means nothing people
<1> But Ford is working on everything you can think of including Hydrogen. they have made a hyrdroben fuel cell car.
<2> anyway, we're all going to be driving these soon... http://hilbertspaces.com/smart.jpg
<5> the system that determins MPG on the sticker is 15 years old
<0> you kind have have to hit yourself over the head with a shovel & be a moron to by an american car:)
<1> Of course it cost a million bucks and there is no fuel infrastructure for those either.
<1> Panini, HAHAHAHA
<8> drugrel8t yeah, it's not very accurate at actual MPG you experience, but is ok for comparing vehicles
<1> Pannini, I know the name to call them. The Metro***ual LS
<6> my truck would run over that
<2> lol
<5> no, its not at all ok to compare with
<2> can you picture yourself in that FT?
<1> haha
<0> trucks I know nothing about, but for normal p***anger cars.....either by foreign or be a rich man
<1> The truth is it would be fun but not practical for me.
<1> I would love to drive about 30 different cars..
<5> go to any tech. related fourms and listen to what the peopel say about sticker MPG vs REAL world MPG
<1> but for my needs I have to think of family and buisness.
<0> common argument for american cars = "easy to work on". common argument for hondas = "you have to work on it?"
<0> ;p
<1> Sticker MPG is such a lie its a huge dissapointment
<1> You have to drive like a goddamn computer.
<0> yah
<1> no exactly how fast to accelerate when to stop when to decellerate etc.
<0> you have to drive 60 on the freeway
<0> with nobody else in the car
<0> & not be fat
<1> Yep
<3> oh, like my Dad !
<0> in order to get sticker mpg
<1> Yep
<1> and no other traffic on the freeway
<5> the sticker MPG does not even take in account HILLS for gods sake
<3> I think Dad was 30% computer
<9> I used to have a MB 300 turbo diesel. It wasnt bad in terms of reliability but mileage wasnt great.
<5> the test needs to be revamped
<1> I used to be emberressed by my gas mileage.
<4> not everyone drives on hills
<1> But heh.. I asked a friend of mine who works in a shop he said bring it in lets tune it up check tire pressure and clean the fuel jets all that ****.
<1> I was excited next time I went to check my mileage
<1> hahaha
<1> Had not changed..
<5> thats my point, there is no way you can set a MPG for a car, at any given time
<1> The way they should test them is give 30 different people of different personality types, half men and half women, Alpha males and submissives, the whole works ;)
<1> Test them for 3 months.
<1> Average out the lot of them.
<10> http://www.break.com/index/lazyramadi.html
<5> i have a better idea
<10> kinda funny
<4> well it's a general standard, and they do have different measures for highway/city
<1> And say this is an average approximate gas mileage you can expect to get
<1> And consider this..
<1> Gas Mileage driving in SF ?
<8> my dads got the most recent GMC Duramax Diesel truck, there's all kinds of fuel stats it gives you on the dash about how much mileage you're getting
<11> i asked a friend of mine to impale herself on a pike
<1> Have you seen the hills ?
<1> Do you remember the old Clint Eastwood movies ?
<4> if you want things that accurate, measure it yourself
<1> Some of them ****ing hills are 50 degrees
<1> hehehe
<3> it's easy to test your owm mileage for a full tank, during which time you drive to and from typical places you need to go
<3> own
<5> bud, you think those stats are 100% accurate?
<5> lol
<5> yer silly if you do
<3> one simple calculation and you will have a figure that is close enough for your situtuation
<4> for how they were measured, yes
<1> That accurate.. ummmm
<8> drugrel8t of course not 100%
<1> 10 MPG off pisses me off
<3> situation
<1> 5 mpg off I would be happy
<1> 10 mpg says, I got ****ered.
<5> those stast mean absoluty nothing in the real world
<3> next time you fill up, top it off and write down your odometer reading
<1> yep
<9> bullit had the greatist SF car chase sequence ever
<1> Scottfree hehe..
<5> it did not
<3> then next time, top it off again, and subtract current odometer from prior
<8> i know tons of people who record their odometer reading on every gas receipt
<1> Lots of good chase scenes.
<12> well at least you dont have an m1, those things get less then 1mpg during combat
<3> that's miles and gallons you get fro the receipt
<3> from
<5> gone in 60 seconds had better car chases than byllit
<1> Bud, I record my mileage with the trip setter
<5> and so did "the driver"
<1> every time I fill up I clear the trip setter
<11> usmale teach me how to be cool
<3> that's another way
<5> and ronin is the king of car movies
<3> redfish ok first, stop being a fish
<3> redfish: be a lizard.
<12> drugrel8t, road warrior is!
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