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<0> supreme court said that that's ok!
<0> hahaha
<0> hell, they don't have to let them visit with lawyers
<1> and in moving fast there is inherent dangers so the alternative is they have limited liability, tort reform or people dont get any vaccines and 10 times as many people die a year from the flu.
<1> and a lot of people die from the flu every year.
<0> if it'll make hannity feel better, maybe we can fly them to Gitmo
<1> it would surprise a lot of people I bet how many die every year in a normal season
<0> 20,000?
<1> The shortage of vaccines last year was precisesly because these american companies no longer wanted to take the financial risk.
<2> Hannity's simple minded opinions don't warrant a discussion imho
<0> am i right?
<0> give or take
<1> We bought a lot of our flu vaccine from the UK
<1> wiretapp, I have to concur with you on that.
<2> Has anybody heard of the fair tax?
<0> Deaths among flu patients are not uncommon; an estimated 20000 Americans, many of them elderly and infirm, die of the flu every year.
<1> Or his side kick.
<1> L0c0 yep
<2> they are just talkin heads reading talking points
<0> actually i'd heard the numbers on the news before
<1> wiretap, yeah thats why I cant stand it, its completely predictable.
<2> with a little bit of attitude thrown in
<0> i googled "die of the flu every year"
<1> l0c0 google how many died before they gave vaccines.
<3> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00032E308/qid=1150350959/sr=8-2/ref=sr_1_2/002-3609263-4960815?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=3370831
<1> (More our of curiousity than anything i dont know)
<1> outr = out
<4> fair tax needs at least 18%, prolly more like 23%
<0> that was from one of the pages, but lots of the links have "20000" in them
<1> L0c0 that sounds about right.
<4> there is some good to the progressive taxation
<1> Tortus, i agree because the alternative is you tax people into welfare.
<4> although, i think progressive taxation has been abused, when some get rebates on taxes they didn't even pay
<0> Deaths from flu and pneumonia declined by about 90 percent of the year 1900 rates before the widespread use of flu vaccine.
<0> by that figure
<1> when someone makes 30k a year and you say, geee we are going to tax him fairly the same rate as everyone else, so you tax him say 20% or so after regular deductions and he pays 4000 and it pushes him over the line into welfare..
<0> 180,000?
<0> eh, its mostly old and weak people
<1> Plus everyone pays social security 14% no matter what (15%)
<0> they're no use to society
<1> L0c0, 180k before the vaccine and 20k now ?
<1> Thats amazing
<4> right. 30K can hardly afford taxes, if you count sales taxes and other taxes. they are paying over 50% tax
<1> considering also the population has grown.
<4> but 18K to get rebates on taxes they didn't pay? i don't think so
<1> 18k what ?
<4> 18k income
<1> You mean earned income credits or whatever its called ?
<4> right
<1> Thats welfare straight up its not a tax return.
<4> income taxes on top of all the other taxes is not fair.
<2> I'm very happy the inheritance tax wasn't repealed
<0> Coulter was fired from MSNBC when she told a disabled Vietnam veteran, "people like you caused us to lose that war."
<1> Its a way the democrats snuck welfare into a tax reduction bill I think when Reagan was president but i dont remmber exactly when.
<0> ahh..spoken like a true bushlover
<4> fair tax at least would straighten that out, but, fair tax would put everyone at least 18% and more likley 23% to work
<4> and that is too much for the lower incomes
<5> she was probably correct
<2> I know something is wrong with the fair tax I'm just not sure exactly what
<1> Coulter is well Like George Carlin, They can both be funny but they can both go so far over the edge that its disgusting.
<5> being disabled doesn't always mean you aren't a lunatic
<2> a lot of people would be ordering online or going overseas to buy stuff
<2> i think
<1> Her latest book though, I agree with the Major Premise.
<4> wiretapp: the problem is, the lower incomes would be paying at least 18% and more likely 23%
<2> yea **** that
<2> I would hope it wouldn't apply to groceries
<2> and neccessities
<4> the other problem with fair tax is this....we have seen this in europe. they impose vat tax, and then don't repeal the previous taxes. that is sure to happen here too
<1> Victims be they survivors of the wtc, wars, slavery, the holocaust, or indian reservations. People should feel comfortabel debating back openly with them.
<4> that is the problem right there
<2> yea
<1> I still dont feel totally comfortable but we should. because they are really taking advantage of us if they say provacative political **** and we dont say nothing back.
<4> you know our politicians, can't give up a good thang
<2> Nobody was ever "affraid to respond" to Cindy Sheehan, Ann Coulter is making up a problem that doesn't exist
<5> if you're disabled and you jump into teh political arena looking for softballs, that's tough ****
<2> and she could have made her point without making the hateful allegation that the women "enjoyed their husbands death"
<2> even though the point is stupid in the first place
<1> Wiretapp, Yes they were for a long time
<1> she went far enough over the line that people finally said enough is enough.
<2> Freemrkts I had people attack her like rabid wolves
<1> But for awhile it gave her protection and coverage.
<1> And I thin ANN makes a good point in her usual Stupid way.
<4> coulter's point is, the widows were campaigning. they were not staying to the issues related to the death of their loved ones
<2> A while like what a couple days? heh
<4> they campaigned. and that is where they crossed the rubicon
<2> why are they not allowed to campaign
<1> Tortus, they blame bush for their death, because he didnt stop 911, never mind it was illegal for the fbi and the CIA to talk back then.
<0> http://www.talkingpresidents.com/products-af-coulter.shtml
<4> and the second they campaigned, they were open targets. coulter took the first shot. so big freakin deal
<0> Ann Coulter Talking Action Figure
<1> Nebver mind he was delayed by gore from the transition for possibly 3 or so crucial months.
<0> they're selling a doll with an empty plastic head... remarkably similar to the real thing...
<6> wow free you sure dont sound like an apologist
<2> Coulter on NNDB http://www.nndb.com/people/474/000022408/
<1> Transitonal periods between presidencies are designed so that the incoming president can get briefed and up to date on all intelligence issues and foreign policy issues that are ongoing
<1> DB, an apologist for whom ?
<5> south park is funny tonight
<6> us intelligence
<1> Who shoould I apologize for, Who should I feel sorry for ?
<2> Coulter I think he menat
<1> DB< It was law
<1> LAW
<6> oh please..
<1> It was Illegal for the FBI and the CIA to communicate
<1> ILLEGAL
<1> Apogist ?
<6> it wasnt just about those 2 agencies communicating either
<6> thats such a spin
<1> Who I am I apologizing for ? The dead people ?
<6> lets just ignore all the whistleblowers who were stonewalled by their superiors
<2> well Bush was there when they sent the memos about "Al-Queda determined to crash plane into buildings"
<1> DB the hell it wasnt you idiot the 911 report stated that was part of the problem.
<6> heck the info couldnt even PENETRATE the top of the agencies
<6> so it COULD be exchanged
<1> There were 1000s of memos and they were that descript and or dated or times
<1> which 1000s of intelligence memos a day do you act on ?
<5> DB sounds like a Democrat
<6> the 911 commission report ... wow yea that was a total farce
<2> 1000s is an exaggeration
<1> US hes an idiot for the **** he just said no matter what party
<6> but i wouldnt expect you to be critical, youre obviously terribly biased for some reason
<1> And you know I rarely call someone an idiot on this channel.
<2> they probably have 1000s to eachother but they only send the president a few a day
<5> ;P
<1> but thats just the kind of idiotic **** the bood was dealing with even though she dealt with it with sometimes idiotic language of her own.
<1> wiretapp heres a news flash they never sent one to the president.
<1> It was stuck in some field office some where.
<6> freemrkts youre a pathetic bootlicker
<1> and it was part of 1000s of reports they get monthly
<1> 1000s
<6> so easily misled by "incompetance" and "beauracracy"
<6> so naive
<5> must be from moveon.org
<1> ahh
<1> I recognize his hostmask US
<1> Nah he goes back maybe a decade
<1> same old ****
<2> The memo, titled "Bin Laden determined to attack inside the U.S.," had been described by the White House as a largely historical document with scant information about domestic al Qaeda threats.
<2> http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/10/bush.briefing/
<7> uh you may want to read the portions of that document that were released after a 2004 story
<7> it basically said al queda wanted to attack inside the us... no specifics, no airliners flying into buildings, etc
<1> Wiretapp, Not interested in reading hindsite articles, I read the 911 report which was pretty goddamn thorought, Correction I have read a lot of it, I am not finished but its clead by all accounts bi partisan that noone could of reasonably connected the dots
<7> well 'duh' most terrorist orgs want to attack inside the us
<2> there were other memos with more specifics about planes though
<2> I'm not saying it was Bush's fault
<2> but maybe he was party negligent?
<7> more specifics.. yeah.. the whole sum... may hijack planes
<1> Thats a bi partisan conclusion of over 20 investigators who soepeanad everyone from Bill Clinton to Bush.
<1> No he wasnt party negligent.
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