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<0> it's only retarded because we don't have a wall yet
<1> this is you you control the border FIRST
<2> yea that is 02%
<2> 0.2%
<3> if we can deport 1,000 people a day.. thats only 10,000 days..
<0> once we have a wall, it becomes *progress*
<1> deport them today, they can sneak right back in
<3> or 27 years.
<0> yup
<1> so, the actual time would be infinite
<0> so it takes 27 years
<0> so what?
<3> panini`: 10,000,000 bus tickets? ... have you seen gas prices?
<3> i dont wann pay for it..
<0> actually, it would happen a LOT sonner than that
<3> they'd raise our taxes.
<1> anyway that operation if for felnons, etc
<1> oops
<0> because if you shut off jobs for them, they would leave ON THEIR OWN
<1> anyway that operation is for felons, etc
<3> maybe they can fight illegal immigration and obesity at once; put a fat tax on tacos?
<4> Did you read where thousands of ILLEGALS have been rounded up -- link off drudge site...
<0> what a concept, huh?
<5> **** no. Tacos rule.
<3> panini`: shutting off the jobs is anti free market.
<1> tacos are American food
<4> PLEASE watch the language use in here -- thank you
<0> Kali right now it's just bluster
<1> I don't think real Mexicans eat that crap
<5> Just because fat ***es can't control themselves doesn't mean we need more government.
<3> panini`: as a employer; i should not need the government's permission to hire someone, or sell them goods.
<0> Libertine, country borders are anti free market
<5> Esp more than would punish me for my sweet sweet tacos.
<6> ?
<4> pani -- maybe so - but they have rounded up several thousand now -- illegals - and are deporting them -- its a start
<4> hi gloriae
<7> hi Kaliuna
<3> panini`: yep, they are, i prefer open borders for trade reasons.
<0> but until the entire world becomes a libertarian paradise, we have no choice
<7> or an anarchistic ... which is that, heaven or hell? nevermind
<3> panini`: why?
<4> gloriae -- hot summer!
<0> Kali deport them today, they're back tomorrow
<7> Kaliuna -- not here! (in SF)
<0> Kali it's useless without a wall
<7> operation completion, I like the sound of that
<4> pani -- not so sure -- with troops on border and tighter security -- just might be we'll put a stop to the ILLEGAL part...
<1> they'r enot deporting just plain old illegal aliens
<8> panini, plants are nice to grow
<0> what plants
<1> they're going after people who commoitted other crimes as well
<4> gloriae -- well its been 80s here -
<7> what's panini pushing now, the JUST GIVE UP, IT'S HOPELESS line?
<7> that sounds pretty cool for the desert states
<7> but what do I know
<7> I haven't been out of the fog in 35 years :)
<4> US -- exactly - several hundred of the M13 gang been rounded up
<0> I like carnivorous plants myself... something poetically beautiful about that
<1> Kal, 'bout time
<0> gloriae, uh no, I'm saying exactly the OPPOSITE of that
<4> US -- yup -- was off reading the article -- and must say - YA! long overdue
<0> others are saying it's hopeless
<1> it is a waste of time to deport with the border wide open
<3> panini`: it makes vegetarians question their beliefs :)
<1> control first, then deport felons
<8> panini, people are nice to hug
<4> pani - and I don't think its hopeless -- I'm just glad things are being done... and yes we need wall too -- well patrolled border
<3> panini`: you mean a plant eats ... living things?? :)
<7> we do indeed
<7> good fences make good neighbors is as true as it ever was
<4> sure is
<0> yup
<0> and fences are consistent with respecting private property rights
<3> does that mean we can't tell Israel to stop putting up their fence?
<3> maybe we could rebuild the berlin wall :)
<0> which is *essential* to a free market
<9> lol
<4> however, it is good to see them rounding up these illegals (they are working mainly on criminal illegals and not just talking criminal for illegal entry)
<9> found a few of them today
<0> CryHavoc, i collect those
<0> you should too!
<9> I found Roberto Alomar
<4> evening CRY
<0> do they have World Cup Panini stickers?
<7> the berlin wall wasn't built to keep people out, Libertine , in case you didn't know. it was to keep people IN.
<9> hey Kali
<1> "There are more than 500,000 ``fugitive aliens'' who have been deported by judges and either slipped back into the country or never left. There is often a disconnect between local and state prisons and the federal government that allows illegal immigrants to serve time and be released without being transferred to federal officials for deportation. "
<1> http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/story.jsp?floc=ns-tos-news-h-02&floc=FF-APO-1110&idq=/ff/story/0001%2F20060614%2F1605252877.htm&sc=1110&photoid=20060613MAMD102
<9> well it was a mystery box full of mostly ****..but I got 2 dozen Molan ryan cards from it
<8> usmale, give peace a chance
<4> US - ah cnn has story too ehh...
<8> usmale, peace & love
<3> gloriae: it hardly matters the reason as to why a wall goes up; in the end the result is the same.
<8> usmale has a peace & love poster above his bed
<3> gloriae: in the end; you have a wall.
<8> next to a poster of justin timberlake
<9> hrmmm screwy californians eating cars now...
<10> that's so profound
<7> Libertine , you wish
<1> redfish, I have "peace & love" tattooed on my biceps
<9> well night peeps.. :)
<7> over there in your imaginary alternate universe
<10> Cry, I guess it's a fuel-saving thing
<7> night havoc
<8> hi jett
<4> nite cry
<1> peace is on the left
<1> love on the right
<11> heyas redfisheries
<4> hi JETT
<11> hiya Kali!
<8> jetthro tull
<11> ;)
<10> Peace as the goal is for slaves.
<3> gloriae: well lets talk hypocracy; our government was critical of the wall being built in Israel which will keep people OUT; yet now we want one?
<3> gloriae: cant have it both ways.
<1> our govt as wrong
<7> no, you go talk to yourself, I don't feel like being annoyed
<1> was
<3> US-Male: fair position; at least it is consistent.
<10> And by the way it isn't "both ways."
<7> libertine.fallacyoflogic.com indeed
<3> DStewart: you can't support a wall in one instance; but not in another for the same reason.
<10> If the walls are not walls, are two different things, and serve entirely different purposes, there would be nothing inconsistent about backing one and opposing the other.
<3> DStewart: they serve the same purpose; to keep people from crossing.
<10> Libertine, way to overgeneralize.
<7> it's the old antisemitism in its fashionable new disguise
<3> DStewart: a wall is a wall.
<10> of legality, for one), and for what reason?
<1> actually Israel's wall is even more easily justified
<10> Libertine, a moron's a moron, too, but you're still different from icmp.
<11> to postmodernists, everything is everything
<10> Jett, indeed---everyting is the same, also different.
<7> all postmodernists are gertrude stein in disguise
<3> US-Male: eh, i've heard people use terrorism as a reason we need to secure the border; same reason was used in Israel for their fence.
<1> Libertine: yeah but on our souther border that is theoretical, althogh still valid
<1> in Isreal, it's not theoretical
<8> gloriae, clones with good makeup?
<11> I'm amazed at pm's inclination to dull reality by generalization
<11> it's numbing
<10> I've never heard ANYONE say the reason for building a wall at the Rio Grande was to prevent an ongoing terrorist ***ault.
<10> Or even terrorism in general.
<10> I'm willing to bet no one ever has said either.
<12> hi
<3> DStewart: eh you don't listen to talk radio then ;)
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