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<0> Lupine, I haven't had a drink in 9 years, but I might now after weeing that!
<0> seeing that is
<1> bun: it was defaulting to a 200hz refresh rate on my KVM system
<2> eek... well i think safe is 640x480@60 but could be wrong
<3> might be a boot option to set that
<1> rather than having a sane-default of 640x480@60hz
<3> the monitor refresh rate or something
<3> can with framebuffer
<2> you can do a console install too.. then run SaX2 to modify it
<1> bun: too archiac.. no need for a modern OS to require that
<2> i think the 'safe' install option does have that 'sane' default lupine
<1> Tailor: yea.. especially all those 1911's :(
<1> bun: nope, it still tries to select the "safe" refresh rate of the monitor
<3> well it would only take a minute, and i would ***ume it would be something corrected in the future
<3> not too much trouble
<3> i bet there is something to configure during install to set that also
<3> in the very beginning, where it asks if you have extra driver disks and such
<1> bmc: nope, it flip modes BEFORE that point
<1> hence, the shere insanity of it
<3> heh
<3> you need to boot to a normal bootloader
<3> and not the graphical install
<3> when you boot the disk
<3> grub appears right?
<3> this is before anything is being set
<3> should see the boot meny
<3> menu*
<1> it's been a while.. but there was no chance to set/change it
<3> i didnt install off the discs
<3> i just downloaded the boot.iso and initrd
<3> and installed over ftp
<1> unless you do install in text mode.. which I aint doing that
<3> :P
<3> screw d/ling burning an iso
<3> im done installing by then
<1> its post 1990. there is no good reason to have to use a text-only OS, anymore than fighting with himem to get more upper memory
<1> well, if you are installing it on multiple computers.. ISO is the best way
<3> you would only have to use it to configure X
<3> you can tell it NOT to boot directly into X
<3> tell it to use initdefault 3
<3> "console mode"
<3> run sax2
<3> configure X
<3> and either init 5 or run X or reboot or whatever
<3> 5 mins tops
<1> bah.. a modern OS shouldn't require such **** shoveling
<3> youre just lazy
<1> no. I just do not have whored out expectations and standards.
<3> that coming from me, should mean something entirely different :P
<3> me calling someone else lazy
<2> well i have installed suse in lots of places with various monitors... and never run into it ..
<2> p*** vga=normal to the installer grub line
<1> bun: this is on KVM
<3> bun-bun would you consider it too much trouble to boot into init 3 and configure X after installing?
<2> i have installed through kvms too
<1> bun: yea, and that didn't solve the problem
<4> http://www.inthe80s.com/rhymes.shtml hahahaha
<1> bun: IP ones thou? there is zero p***thru of monitor information
<2> bmc not really but i have been doing this for > 15 years
<3> some people want everything spoon fed
<3> :P
<3> theyre already giving you a kick *** OS, free of charge
<1> bmc: would you be happy if you bought a brand new $50,000 car, and you had to get out and hand crank to start it?
<3> so what if you have to make a few adjustments
<3> if you paid, i would say you have a right to expect it to work as advertised
<3> free d/l... use at your own risk
<2> then do vga=ask
<1> bun-bun: this is what I use http://blackbox.com/Catalog/Detail.aspx?cid=537&mid=3908
<5> Well Sorry I had to split so damn fast but I forgot to pick up my son.
<6> lol
<3> i would gladly boot into console mode and configure X, everytime i wanted to use graphics even, as opposed to paying $150 for a windows os
<6> don't tell him that
<2> i used to set modelines manually.. that was fun
<1> well.. most of my developement tools do not even exist on linux, so...
<3> setting modelines messing up the position of the display for me
<5> Lupine, My industry doesnt support Linux. Well one of them.
<5> And its very computer dependent.
<3> i have to comment the modeline sax sets out
<3> then the screen is centered perfectly
<5> it just recently started supporting mac..
<7> One of our sources spoke with the head of the hotel who informed him that Hillary Clinton had arrived to attend the Bilderberg conference, confirming the rumors we had previously heard.
<7> Clinton is a touted presidential candidate as is New York Governor Pataki, who it was reported by the New York Sun was also in attendance at Bilderberg.
<7> Bilderberg has a proven history of acting in a kingmaker capacity. Both Bill Clinton and Tony Blair attended before becoming President and Prime Minister and the mainstream media reported that Bilderberg selected John Edwards as Kerry's running mate in 2004.
<1> lol, right now.. i'm feeding the ubuntu dvd iso torrent ~1KB/sec..
<5> University of california is changing some systems over from Mac to Windows.
<3> the only reason i could ever see installing windows is if i had some games that i really wanted to play that required it, or i had a job that required it
<5> Now for them thats a big deal.. Because this is the hottest market in the USA for Macintosh.
<1> DB: in otherwards.. they do not pick who will be the president
<7> Hillary Clinton will president
<3> sure hope not
<7> she will president america
<2> i'm an os agnostic.. i just use what works.. i use windows, mac, unix or whatever basically
<2> but speaking of games.. i should go play a little half life 2
<1> bun: what I love is, fanboi's to ignorantly extrapolate what they read, as if it applied to everybody :-)
<7> i wonder what fox news will be like
<3> windows is too hands-off
<3> you go messing with stuff it doesnt want you to mess with and it freaks out
<2> not at the nitty gritty level bmc
<6> DBCooper: then how did bush win then?
<3> like windows registry
<5> Well ive used them and frankly for Desktop and buisness I love windows. And for servers I have ran I likes Linux or Unix or FreeBSD..
<2> yeah... but if you know what you are doing :)
<2> i mess with the registry all the time
<3> yea i tried some "tweaks"
<3> it was tweaked alright
<5> Man just doesnt make any sense to me whereas windows has always been super intuitive. It was easy to learn on my own.
<1> heh.. we mess with PCI timings in Win2K/XP.. gain alot of performance increase for free :-)
<7> One of our sources spoke with the head of the hotel who informed him that Hillary Clinton had arrived to attend the Bilderberg conference, confirming the rumors we had previously heard.
<7> Clinton is a touted presidential candidate as is New York Governor Pataki, who it was reported by the New York Sun was also in attendance at Bilderberg.
<7> Bilderberg has a proven history of acting in a kingmaker capacity. Both Bill Clinton and Tony Blair attended before becoming President and Prime Minister and the mainstream media reported that Bilderberg selected John Edwards as Kerry's running mate in 2004.
<5> Man = Mac
<7> oops
<7> accident
<1> really makes a difference over using Linux or OSX
<3> parts worked actually
<7> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8888742751442686831&q=gypsy+9%2F11
<3> this was a long time ago, windows me i think it was
<3> hah
<6> DBCooper: how did bush win in 2004?
<3> i had to remove that ****ty restore nonsense
<3> not just turn it off, remove it, and there is some other crap, some backup thing
<7> robvandam by running agaisnt a lame duck and on a war?
<3> like gateways go-back
<7> thats pretty obvious !
<3> but windows version
<7> kerry is a puppethead just like busch
<6> DBCooper: well if the bilderbergs are all powerful...
<6> DBCooper: kerry should have won, no?
<3> i had to remove that, cause they just hit the disk constantly, and you couldnt totally disable
<7> uhm no
<1> RVD: i pointed that out to him.. he failed to understand :-)
<3> you have to physically remove them
<4> speaker nancy pelosi in 2007
<7> why would they want kerry to win?
<3> all the "performance tweaks" though ****ed
<6> DBCooper: how do you figure?
<3> they didnt work right at all
<6> DBCooper: why else would they select his running mate?A
<6> ?
<5> Now where was I.. Oh, Yeah My Palestinian friends who dont deserve a homeland and deserve death and destruction because they happen to be palestinian we were determining what kind of justice that was and its called collective. Jews historically were persecuted a lot by collective justice resulting from things which sometimes a few individuals did. No I will never believe in Collective or ethnic nor racial justice. Only individua
<3> if the democrats take the house, pelosi will be new speaker
<7> i dunno look for him to be vice president
<3> wont that ****?
<5> To bad I had to split while we had that conversation.
<7> hillary/edwards ticket?
<7> wowza
<4> that will be a joyous day, bmc!!
<3> id rather the democrats took the senate
<5> If the Democrats take the house they will lose it in 2008
<1> lol... look he left :-)
<3> let the gop keep the house
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