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<0> http://www.bradycampaign.org/press/related_docs/052301.php
<0> look at that ****
<0> heh
<0> mofos got some "firepower"
<1> oh 1911's , ok
<2> bmc: of course, they are not intellectually consistent.. as by federal law, all able bodied males from 18 are automatically members of the militia ;-)
<0> look at all those rulings though :P
<2> but lewis and US was certainly not a 2nd amendment
<1> i like glocks in 40
<0> http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=us&vol=445&invol=55
<0> theres that case
<2> glocks are okay firearms.. kind of the honda civic of the gunworld.
<1> but i think the h&k is way nicer
<1> maybe i should just save up for an h&k
<2> bmc: okay, i was remembering it right. Lewis vs US concerned the removal of rights for convicted felons.
<2> No suprise there.
<0> the state does that
<2> In 1961, petitioner George Calvin Lewis, Jr., upon his plea of guilty, was convicted in a Florida state court of a felony [445 U.S. 55, 57] for breaking and entering with intent to commit a misdemeanor. See Fla. Stat. 810.05 (1961). He served a term of imprisonment. That conviction has never been overturned, nor has petitioner ever received a qualifying pardon or permission from the Secretary of the Treasury to possess a firearm. See 18
<0> so the state -does- have authority to infringe upon your constitutionally protected right to keep/bear arms
<3> Well, it appears that Bush is suffering from foot-in-mouth disease again....
<3> WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Bush, who often teases members of the White House press corps, apologized Wednesday after he poked fun at a reporter for wearing sungl***es without realizing they were needed for vision loss.
<0> haha
<2> bmc: because the constitution specifically allows removal of rights for felons. "duh"
<4> I'm confused
<0> "what you got those gl***es on for, you blind or something???!?" "why yes i am mr president...."
<4> why do blind people need to wear sungl***es?
<0> haha
<3> bmc: haha
<2> bmc: guess what? if you are guilty of a felony, they can lock you up. oh damn!
<2> but that is not an abolition of the 4th amendment.
<0> Lupine after serving your sentence though
<0> your right to keep/bear arms is not restored
<0> some state permanently id wager
<0> states*
<2> well, it CAN be, just like voting, being able to move about freely, etc
<0> voting rights also
<0> i disagree with that
<3> Herzen: most folks that are legally blind aren't totally blind
<0> wtf is up with a "post-sentence" sentense
<2> in many states, if you are a ***ual predator, or violent felon.. they can restrict your movements. Make you check in, etc.
<0> you do your time, your debt to society is paid in full
<2> bmc: i htink they should just INCLUDE it with the sentence
<0> unless you made a deal for early release
<3> Herzen: often, as w/ this guy, he has a condition that along w/ loss of vision, makes his eyes hyper sensitive to light
<4> i see
<2> i.e. incarciration X years, probation Y years, loss of rights Z years
<0> they can do that
<2> yea.. legally blind != totally blind
<3> lupine: != means not equal?
<0> L0c0 = is equals.... ! is not... put them together
<0> :P
<3> oh ok
<3> hhe
<3> cool hehe...learned something new :-P
<5> it's suppose to resemble an equal sign with a line through it, which means not equal in math
<0> like ... if [ a != b ]; then echo NO; fi
<0> suna goober
<2> bmc: now, if you notice, there is NO MENTION of the second amendment in Lewis v. US, except as a footnote reference to US. Miller 1939
<0> isnt != like universal? dont most all programming languages use it?
<2> bmc: and if they were ever to re-examine US v. Miller, they would see it was based on perjury by the US attorney general :-)
<0> is that the one about the short-barrelled shotguns?
<6> oooh.. interesting Lupine
<2> bmc: yes. the government claimed they had no military value, HENCE not covered by the 2nd amendment.
<2> irony: the ONLY 2nd amendment case since 1939.. rules.. the 2nd amendment ONLY applies to "military weapons".. i.e.. fully automatic machine guns, etc..
<3> WASHINGTON -- The Federal Emergency Management Agency was hoodwinked to pay for season football tickets, a tropical vacation and a *** change operation, an audit of Hurricanes Katrina and Rita aid found.
<3> LOL!
<0> ''[i]n the absence of any evidence tending to show that possession or use of a 'shotgun having a barrel of less than 18 inches in length' at this time has some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well- regulated militia, we cannot say that the Second Amendment guarantees the right to keep and bear such an instrument. Certainly it is not within judicial notice that this weapon is any part of the ordinary military equipment or that its us
<0> common defense.''
<2> which is ****ed up, as those are all-but-banned since 1986
<7> L0c0, you find that funny?
<8> football :) germany / poland 1 / 0
<2> bmc: right, but the US military had a huge stock pile of them.. and in fact, it was a regular issued weapon in WWI for use in trenches
<3> I was unaware that Twobar was in New Orleans during the hurricane
<2> bmc: the other key is, there was NO ONE defending Millar there [ he died ]. It was a one-horse pony show.
<3> twobar went to a football game, was disappointed, had a *** change, then went to Jamaica to get his groove back
<3> ;-P
<8> L0c0, i have the overall fear.. we may see big hurrican.. in september / october .. any clues ?
<2> bmc: it would be like a case today, where the US attorney general, tells the USSC that "computers" are not used by any government entity. It is a clear perjury.
<3> a big hurricane during hurricane season?
<3> i'd call that a sure bet
<0> http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?navby=case&court=us&vol=307&invol=174
<3> not ask me if I think one will hit the US gulf coast
<3> and i'll say ...50/50
<3> :-P
<3> well, suns crawlin' behind the mountain, guess I can go walk now
<3> adios
<0> The District Court held that section 11 of the Act violates the Second Amendment. It accordingly sustained the demurrer and quashed the indictment.
<9> Abusive Domain or User
<8> L0c0, sure i don't know. but it is so warm... gulf stream. dropped by 30%.. well
<0> A duly interposed demurrer alleged: The National Firearms Act is not a revenue measure but an attempt to usurp police power reserved to the States, and is therefore unconstitutional. Also, it offends the inhibition of the Second Amendment to the Constitution, U.S.C.A.-'A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.'
<0> The District Court held that section 11 of the Act violates the Second Amendment. It accordingly sustained the demurrer and quashed the indictment. [307 U.S. 174, 177]
<0> missed part :P
<8> well on the go. i am tired .. hit the coast..; i don't know.. true.. they could be bigger than ever.. would that mean,they'll hit the coast.. well surely.. they'll hit the coast to calm down... but where..
<2> bmc: think about this: US v Miller ruled that the second amendment protects firearms that are suitable for use in a militia/military. Which arms are all-but-banned now n days? You got it, those very same weapons
<8> i am on the go, good night
<2> so, the ONLY USSC ruling says.. we have the right to military style weapons.. yet, all the laws prevent access.
<2> that's all ****ed up, no?
<2> it would be like the USSC ruling we have the right to free speech.. yet all the laws are against the free speech
<0> In the margin some of the more important opinions and comments by writers are cited. 3 [307 U.S. 174, 183] We are unable to accept the conclusion of the court below and the challenged judgment must be reversed. The cause will be remanded for further proceedings.
<10> heh i still havent finished reinstalling all my software and updates since when i started the other day :(
<11> anyone here have windows vista
<10> yeah i have a few beta copies
<11> i want to try it
<2> Nemes: Unbunto 6.06 is the first linux distro that installed flawlessly for me
<11> whois liberal
<10> liberal, its all over the net man if you look carefully enough :)
<0> ive been digging suse
<10> Lupine, i didnt get on well with linux heh
<0> most "professional" distribution ive used yet
<7> Got me, whois liberal?
<0> those damn germans know what theyre doing
<11> i'm downloading it
<11> it's huge
<2> Heh. I think i am the #4 seed for Ubunto DVD iso :-)
<2> bmc: i use SUSE 64bit enterprise on my work boxes
<11> anyone watching vh1
<11> lol
<11> drug show on
<11> cool stuff
<11> :>
<2> TheTailor: I can make you cry! http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?s=04e20bd9e875db1a91108cb8d5f6f604&t=83534
<10> ive stopped trying to be a ahcker now and a code monkey and just realsied i only need software for digital art and video work
<11> talking about how all the vietnam troops did drugs
<10> so windows does me
<0> Lupine dont you think its just more put together than other distros?
<10> no more messin with linux for me
<0> "refined" or something
<12> even suse 9.x and 10.x for 64 bit are good... and free :)
<0> i dunno how youd define it
<0> i like calling it more "professional"
<0> cause thats what it strikes me as
<12> dem@athena:~> cat /etc/SuSE-release
<12> SUSE LINUX 10.1 (X86-64)
<2> bmc: well, it has a barf video default
<0> you could use suse in a business enviroment without much issue
<12> enterprise you definately can use in a business environment.. matter of fact its going to be oracles 'linux platform of choice'
<12> they are pissed at redhat
<2> before any ability to adjust/modify the video settings, it defaults to a mode my KVM/monitor can't handle.
<0> oh
<0> thats right, you were talking about that before
<0> you shoudlve sent them an email explaining the issue
<0> or a bug report
<0> especially if you were buying boxed set
<2> I did.. answer was "plug it direct into an analogue monitor for initial setting"
<0> youd have a right to demand it work properly
<0> :P
<0> oh
<12> or go 'safe' i think thats 640x480
<7> Lupine, I haven't had a drink in 9 years, but I might now after weeing that!
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