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<0> branh0913, parents don't exactly babysit cl***rooms.
<1> BBIAB.. Need to try something technical.
<2> rwx: the problem is not whether we're right to do so ... killing HItler in his cradle would have been right morally but wrong historically
<3> If a parent want to get their child educated they will do it
<0> All they can do is react to grades or communiques by teachers.
<4> thats why I bribed my kids... with money for A's heheh
<0> NYHeathen!
<2> toecutter: rely in what way?
<5> OcDoc: why do we have building permits? to protect the housing industry.
<6> P_O baby!
<7> OcDoc: so what is the problem then
<0> JanetB, my grandparents tried that with me.
<3> I'm tired of these liberal excuses all of the time
<0> NYHeathen, how goes?
<4> P_O.. well it worked for me :)
<6> P_O: fine and you?
<3> Parents were strict back in the days and kids didn't dream of doing the same bull**** they do now
<0> NYHeathen, besides being sick, I'm doing alright.
<2> toecutter: to protect one portion of the housing industry
<1> OcDoc, right but eliminating the nulclear programs of Iran with the support of europe and even Russia would be incredibly wise.
<3> Parents need to take control of their kids
<2> toecutter: okay, I'm with you so far
<4> they liked getting 30 to 35.00 a report card
<6> P_O: It's raining here so I decided to not go out
<0> branh0913, I have friends who's parents get pissed over Cs and Bs, really doesn't motivate kids anymore.
<3> But hey in socialism people expect the government to take care of every aspect of their lives
<8> now a days, if you discipline your child, they toss you in jail, and the kid in foster care.
<0> NYHeathen, becoming a hermit on us?
<2> rxw: well, perhaps, but on the other hand it might be the factor that leads to world war three
<1> And it isnt impossible not at all.
<3> P_O sure it does
<0> branh0913, no it really doesn't lol
<3> Hey and if a kid doesn't want to learn, throw his *** out
<0> They care about getting the grades now
<1> No this country Iran has no ability to start ww3, It has no allies.
<0> but they care even less about actually learning.
<3> So he don't **** up the learning experience for other kids
<1> Syria isnt going to risk it
<2> rwx: I hope you're right
<1> WW2 nations pretty much more or less had the same weapons.
<0> And you know, that's the way I am these days too.
<3> Well P_O then show kids the reality of not having an education
<0> All I care about in highschool now is p***ing
<3> Like working a ****ty job and not being able to pay bills
<9> P_O: that's because parents don't threaten kids with death or taking some object away from the kids that they really value
<3> That will "motivate" kids to learn
<4> I had a kid that math was so hard.. and she worked and worked and worked and never seemed to be able to bring it above a D... so when she got c's and b's.. we went to lunch and a movie to celebrate!
<5> Ocdoc: bulding permits keep 200,000 people in Los Angeles homeless as well as the relief aganicies filled.
<0> I care a lot more about my grades than I do about learning at this point.
<1> Today lets look at reality. Americas military and technology is so advanced that no nation or coalition of nations in the world could defeat it.
<1> Warfare isnt what it used to be, men with guns fighting men with guns.
<2> toecutter: I'm against regulations too, but that doesn't mean my tax dollars are going to executives
<3> Grades don't mean **** if you don't know anything
<4> and now in college, she got all A's in her math cl***es :)
<1> Its high tech remote control weaponry and bombs which can be targeted to one meter of its destination.
<1> from half way across the world.
<3> When I was in 8th grade I got Ds but I learned every concept that that teacher taught me
<2> Janet: educations is all about motivation, it's true ... but money doesn't motivate most kids to learn
<0> branh0913, I still learn a decent amount.
<3> Overall I knew more than my peers who got better grades
<1> The only counter is nuclear..
<0> But I simply don't care as much about learning as I once did.
<0> I'm just trying to get out of my school.
<3> P_O than why waste your time?>
<7> how old are you P_O?
<3> Drop the **** out
<0> branh0913, a few reasons.
<3> If you don't want to learn then get out
<3> No reason
<0> If I drop out, my bomb *** job goes away.
<4> OcDoc... thats why when they did something really special, we did something extra special
<5> OcDoc: Yes it does, they write laws that give large stock holders the right to vote for stock options.
<10> P_O
<10> ...
<1> And I say id russia wants to bring it on then lets do it, lets destroy the world, The dead care for nothing. Of course thats not my preference ;) And I dont believe russia or china would do it.
<0> And my mom will get incredibly pissed at me.
<10> Do I have to slap the **** out of you?
<0> volition`, 16.
<3> Well P_O that is the consequence of not wanting to knnow anything
<1> But Iran is crazy enough it might do it
<1> and we cant risk that.
<2> toecutter: why should I care what stockholders vote for in their own companies?
<7> you're even younger than I am, I'm 17
<0> branh0913, you love twisting my words don't you?
<4> but they still liked the money.. as a matter of fact.. my daughter asked if we could re institute the Money for grades again hahaha
<0> volition`, I'm the youngest regular here, so far as I know.
<10> P_O, Do to the best of your means in EVERYTHING that you do, thats the mark of a respectible, responsible, adult man
<4> I told her no.. she is all grown up haha
<3> You said that you don't want to learn anything right P_O?
<1> Pretty much a universal idea now which I am glad for, Germany is with us, Russia is even pissed of at Iran.
<10> Even if you don't like it or don't 'want' to learn
<10> its irrelevant
<0> Herzen, I'm neither the former nor in a way, the latter.
<5> Ocdoc: Because the amount of stock you own should represent your ownership.
<1> be back later.
<0> branh0913, show me where I said that.
<10> P_O, Don't you want to be?
<2> Janet: the problem is all the stories about what worked for your kids don't help other people motivate THEIR kids
<3> well I haven't logged this conversation P_O but you said something along those lines
<4> OcDoc.. no.. you have to find what works for your kids
<2> Janet: your kids might have been self motivated anyway
<0> branh0913, I said I care more for my grades than my learning _at this point_
<5> Ocdoc: I own shares in many companies, but I don't want to give executives options, I want to fire half of them, and make them pay to work there.
<4> ok, I will never talk about my kids again
<3> Okay P_O then get out if you aren't willing to learn
<3> School is about learning
<3> Not about grades
<3> Grades are the game, but learning is the goal
<0> branh0913, bull****.
<0> Absolutely bull****.
<3> So really if you aren't trying to learn you are wasting everyones time
<11> redskins are catching up :))
<2> toecutter: sounds like a recipe for corporate failure
<7> well, over here, the end of high school is all about getting the entry score for uni
<5> Ocdoc: large shareholders and executives are the same people they rip off the smnall investors.
<0> Almost none of the teachers give a **** if you're learning, and definitely no admins care.
<2> branh: no, school is about the government forcing people to attend
<12> i care about P_O
<0> OcDoc, HS shouldn't be compulsory.
<5> OcDoc: why the revenues and earnings of the corporations goes up and the executives take it all.
<0> I care about redfish.
<2> toecutter: the small investors don't have to invest if they don't want to
<3> P_O if no one is trying to teach you, then you better ****in teach yourself
<2> PO: no school should be compulsory
<3> What is wrong with people these days?
<2> only kids who want to learn should attend
<3> They need everyone to hold their hands for them
<0> OcDoc, well that's hard for me to say in say Elementary school.
<7> OcDoc: and when do kids get to make the decision?
<3> P_O if you really want to learn you'd be hitting that library everyday
<2> PO: the average kid can learn in two years what it takes them 12 to learn now
<3> Because you need to know something in this world
<0> branh0913, do you hit the library?
<0> Every day?
<2> PO: public school is simply government paid daycare for families with two jobs
<3> An grade A student who don't know **** is of not value to anyone in this world
<5> OcDoc: well yes they do when the dollar is devalueing daily, small investors to small to buy small investors must put thier money somewhere. In a bank you lose about 5 percent annually.
<0> And I do know somethings :P
<3> I did when I was your age P_O
<13> omg
<0> branh0913, oh, so once I'm old enough, I can no longer care about education?
<13> we are arguing hermeneutics of education
<3> P_O you should care about education everyday of your life until you die
<2> toecutter: so the system you want to destroy is better than the one that would be left for them?
<2> toecutter; sounds great
<3> Because in retrospect, there is always something to learn
<0> branh0913, why should I, when you don't?
<0> You don't hit the library every day anymore do you?
<13> P_O
<3> P_O I still go to libraries
<10> P_O, You should shoot for both good grades, and being as learned as possible
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