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<0> albrecht wenzel eusebius von wallenstein
<1> FreeTrade: How about spying on peace groups that oppose the president?
<2> tho, I welcome the 10th Ammendment, tho it is a shame it has been somehow forgotten by our federal government.
<3> FreeTrade: Like the fellow accused of the bombing at centennial park?
<4> MrRod: so all a clever politician has to do to make the citizens give up more rights is make them feel insecure
<5> The right to move freely in the usa, the right to speak and right a book on any position of conscience. evil or not. The right to keep and bare arms.
<6> The Texas constitution doesn't make any mention of the flag.
<5> Those are real tangible civil rights.
<7> what? not me homie. my civil liberties are the very thing that gives me my security.
<8> FreeTrade yes they are...
<0> mrrod most americans dont think there will be any real consequences to civil liberties from authorizing wiretaps on terrorists
<5> Rights the left ironically do not support while they complain about eavesdropping on terrorists.
<3> FreeTrade: your papers please
<1> FreeTrade: How about having a two-tiered legal system. The usual one for common criminals and a second, secret system for terrorist suspects?
<9> my civil liberties has been violated
<9> with a broomhandle!
<4> DStewart: it's in the law that made Texas a state
<4> DStewart: not the constitution
<5> MrRod, It depends in my opinion on their nationality and if they are enemy combatants or not and so on.
<2> http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/more/texas.htm ..
<1> FreeTrade: I mean for US citizens in the US.
<5> IN other words, there are a lot of factors which establish the status of a person who may be a terrorist.
<10> MrRod hates our freedoms
<6> If it is necessary for the state flag and the flag of the United States to be displayed on the same flagpole or flagstaff, the United States flag should be above the state flag.
<7> well, right now anyone that doesn't agree 100% with the current administration is an enema combatant.
<5> Was he american on a foreign battelfield / I would consider him an enemy combatant.
<7> hehehe
<2> OcDoc: I should have been clear, yeah the law was when our constitution was adopted.
<6> "antifed: FT: thankfully, we're still allowed to fly the Texas fly as high as the US Flag.. we're the only state that can, legally."
<6> Where does that claim come from?
<11> FBI will pwn0r you!
<8> FEMA -- wrong
<2> DS: that is correct, see - http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/more/texas.htm
<12> Taxeans are such a pompous lot
<1> horizon: What gives you that idea?
<10> i heard bush say something about the wrong type of disent or something to the effect of people were disagreeing at the wrong time.
<8> FreeTrade - and there are some so-called US citizens who are sympathetic to terrorists causes...
<4> Cultof one; with good justification, too!
<2> Cult: eh, you'd be pompous too if you used to be your own Country..
<7> Kaliuna, wake up and realist that we are not in kansas anymore.
<10> i'm was jokering MrRod
<5> If he is an american involved with militant islamic terrorism or any terrorism, I support eavesdropping all the govt wants to do. My only concern is that the govt uses it the way they say they are using it, there was a review in 2004 and the feds had no abuses.
<12> I live in Arizona
<13> uh, actually, any state is permitted to fly its flag as high as the American flag, both "legally" and according to flag etiquette.
<8> FEMA -- I never was IN KS - except p***ing through
<7> heh
<12> Texas does nothing for me
<3> CuLtOfOne: cotton
<1> FreeTrade: Some people believe there are times when people show support for the president and if they don't support the president then they should keep it to themselves.
<2> DT: if thats true, I am incorrect.
<4> Clutofone: let's keep it that way
<3> CuLtOfOne: and rice
<7> good. glade you don't live here. more roome for me.
<3> FEMA: what part?
<6> (f) When flags of States, cities, or localities, or pennants of societies are flown on the same halyard with the flag of the United States, the latter should always be at the peak. When the flags are flown from adjacent staffs, the flag of the United States should be hoisted first and lowered last. No such flag or pennant may be placed above the flag of the United States or to the United States flag?s right.
<5> Disco, If 2 flags are on one pole, according to etiquette the national flag woulf fly highest and then the State flag. But never the UN flag :)
<12> Im glad we aret obligated to do anythting for Texas
<7> jhicks, Austin
<4> DStewart: what's your source for that, btw
<12> I feel better now
<6> FT, well, the UN flag only at the UN
<6> OcDoc, US Code
<14> the UN flag? yikes.
<6> http://***embler.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode04/usc_sec_04_00000007----000-.html
<13> antifed: flag etiquette does not permit flying any flag *higher* than the U.S. flag, nor any flag larger than the U.S. flag.
<1> Austin. The Berkeley of Texas.
<3> FEMA: I just bought a place at Horseshoe Bend
<4> Cult: Texas doesn't need anything from any other state
<12> right
<3> MrRod: Hill Country is different
<5> DS yep :)
<11> is texas a nice play to live
<3> MrRod: west of austin
<2> DT: Yeah, I wish we would fly the Texas flag higher.. heh
<7> CuLtOfOne, Texas doesn't need anythjing done for it. its a recource rich state.
<6> antifed, DT is right. Furthermore, if Texas state law contradicted US Code, US Code would prevail.
<12> right
<15> Austin is 1/100th of a Berkeley
<1> DStewart: In all cases?
<11> texas can suscede though, can't it?
<11> secede?
<3> hehe
<2> gravix: depends who you ask.
<13> Austin is Berkeley with gun-totin' rednecks at the margins.
<15> Hell no
<12> Texas is full of gay cowboys and cowboy hats if you call that a resource
<7> duhhh.. i guess you didn't know that the University of Texas is amongst the 5 largest universities in the World
<6> MrRod, if there is a contradiction, yes. Unless the US Code were unconstitutional.
<3> CuLtOfOne: ever been to Texas?
<9> come on
<2> technically... there are those who believe ANY state can leave the Union..
<8> CuLtOfOne you need to read more about TX -- if thats all you think
<9> thats just bigotry plain and simple
<12> sure have
<9> cut it out
<4> everything's bigger in Texas
<12> Yexas ****s goat ***
<16> why does Texas want to secede anyway?
<3> CuLtOfOne: South Padre Island?
<11> antifed, i thought there was something special about texas's agreement to join the US
<12> Texas even
<3> Airbuster: because it hates vermont
<11> that allows it to secede at any time
<2> Airbuster: federal government isn't needed in texas?
<15> Airbuster, who said it does?
<12> naww Texas the state ****s goat ***
<1> TheTailor: but you're not a real Texan!
<7> al least we dont live in a total ****ing dirthole like arizona
<2> Honestly.. why does Texas.. need the federal system?
<2> we don't.
<12> I didnt see a goddamn thing about it that made it special
<12> Texas ****s
<7> thats because you dont live here
<12> quite frankly
<13> antifed: OK. You're on your own for border control. Have fun.
<8> CuLtOfOne cause you weren't bothering to even look --
<5> MrRod, I dont give a damn if people disagree with the president, IN fact I live where most people do as you know. I have never advocated that it be a crime to disagree with the president. I do think its an expression of ignorance when people cant understand the importance of eavesdropping after 911, in light of the fact one of the major problems with connecting the dots was that the CIA was supposed to hang up as soon as an amer
<7> yeah well arizona blows
<3> antifed: and there would be a lot of land to be regained from the friggin military
<5> Answered the phone.
<4> Cult: Texans don't care what you think of Texas
<6> antifed, do you have a web site that has the law that governed Texas' joining the union?
<2> DT: like the federal government patrols our border now? hah
<2> DT: besides, I'm for open borders.
<11> yay open borders!
<15> antifed, Texas wouldn't make it on it's own.
<2> DS: not handy, no.
<7> Borders, the Book Store?
<5> And the FBI and CIA had a Brick Wall between them when they might each have half the plan to commit a terrorist act.
<6> Crap... do you know what it is called? (So I can google it)
<2> gravix: open borders = free markets
<3> FreeTrade: Let's hope they don't get together and accomplish it! :)
<13> antifed: so you're in favor of Texas being overrun by Mexicans who wish to re-claim it for Mexico.
<12> smells like cow piss and tacos
<6> Tacos are good, anyway
<1> DStewart: How about this? http://www.tsl.state.tx.us/ref/abouttx/annexation/march1845.html
<17> CuLtOfOne, you are devoiced (Requested by TheTailor - Reason: lame *** )
<6> MrRod, thanks!
<11> antifed: wait do you mean just free markets or also you think the wall should be taken down and people allowed to come and go as they please
<6> That doesn't mention flags either...
<2> DT: I'm for free markets and letting anyone who for whatever the market will pay without government enforced article restrictions on the free market.
<5> The president may or may not have violated his constitutional power. If he has he should stop, if he hasnt he should continue, If he has, he is not a criminal because there is no malice aforthought nor any supreme court precedent to establish this bright yellow line the president cant cross.
<2> who will work for, typo
<16> if Hawaii secede from the US, we'd likely lose our liberties here
<2> article/artifical... ug.. typos
<16> definitely, I think
<8> Air -- totally possible
<16> or just definitely
<13> antifed: has it occured to you that without border control you end up letting in a lot of people who are *opposed* to free markets?
<18> hawaii cant secede
<19> If eavesdropping were so important, then it should be done under law enacted by Congress.
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