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<0> heh
<1> pil: yea, mean old teddy rosevelt cut funding on that sea wall ;-)
<0> but that was back in the 70's
<2> bhack.
<3> Wasn't that a mighty storm/ yes'n dat a mighty sorm in da mornin/ wasn' dat a mighty storm/ blew all da people all away
<3> Rusty it is not what it once was
<2> Study historical hurricanes. nothing is out of the ordinary, Global warming has no influence appreiciably.
<2> appreciably
<0> pil oh=(
<4> You know, I'm not sure if the storms were seeded, I have no proof, only suspicion. BUT what I can say is that regardless of weather these superstorms (super in the sense of how quickly they intensified) are natural or not, Bush could care less about the enviornment.
<2> I know they were not seeded
<3> Global Warmign is an excuse to apply for fundign AND THAT IS ALL
<0> ohh good lord
<2> I dont need proof
<0> the storms were seeded??????
<2> Logis is enough
<2> locgic
<4> And I think the 2006 season is going to be just as bad or worse.
<2> ack
<2> logic
<5> `426Hemi: heh, where have you been ?
<1> FT: unfortunately, the poor state of scientific education in america.. leads people to believe it is different. they are ignorant that measurements have improved dramatically.. hell, in 1900, there were entire hurricanes we never even knew about!
<4> AND I also think that we'll see a few year round hurricane seasons.
<0> Birdshot you actually have a suspicion of Katrina being seeded????
<2> We are in a HURRICANE CYCLE that is why it will be bad
<3> its all a plot
<6> i read that this is the warmest winter ever recorded
<3> its Mohammad who done it
<4> Oh yeah
<0> i seriously can't wait til conspiracy theorists die
<1> thecolby: tell that to the russians
<2> We had record snows in ny this weekend for this valentines day, Global Freezing.
<4> January 2006 for me was the warmest I ever remember.
<5> yup, based on the ***umption that the govt has the tech and info to direct a hurricane
<4> It was in the 70s all month
<7> before and after Katrina pics where the storm hit http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunherald/news/special_packages/renewal/before_after/
<2> We had unseasonably warm weather yesterday, Global warming.
<4> Lows are usually in the 30s, they were in the 60s.
<4> January felt like March.
<2> Today its typical, Global Stasis.
<3> warmest winter ever hand wrung over since the last headline
<6> global warming is not debatable. it's fact.
<8> Most moslems believe that it was Allah that created those L5 hurricanes to punish american infidels
<3> baloney
<3> its bull
<6> you can debate the cause of global warming but you cant debate that it exists
<0> global warming is a natural occurence
<1> Bird: we just had the coldest recorded temp since the early 1920's here.. global cooling!!!
<3> pure bovine fecal matter
<9> thecolby bwahahahahahaha
<2> Dillon then who created the tsumanis which hit the most populous muslim areas in the world ?
<5> Dillon: you mean most zealot muslims beleived that.............
<0> we were alot warmer than we are today thats for certain
<10> new york city just experiened some global warming
<11> i have a great idea! let's do global warming in the winter and global cooling in the summer... that way we have moderate temperatures year-round!
<3> the you ever read Tasitus?
<7> multi million dollar mansions on the beach replaced by FEMA trailers (or slabs) for 100 mile stretch
<3> Tacitus
<1> pil: not pure, there are some nuts in it
<2> Panini, I am on board!
<3> or Plato?
<4> You know, something is happening with the climate and everything, and Bush can sit there and deny it or whatever, but you either take care of the situation or the situation will take care of you. And I can guarntee that Earth will win, not humans.
<0> you all would have a hard time trying to explain dinosaurs if the world wasn't supposed to be a bit warmer
<3> try Pliny the Elder on Natrual History
<6> in the past 5 years, the amount of ice that has melted from greenland is insane
<9> thecolby - How long have we been collecting climate data for comparison?
<11> I'm surprised no one thought of it before!
<1> Bird: funny how the US "non kyoto signer" is doing better than many of those who signed it, and a hell of alot better than china
<2> hehehe
<11> pilgrim`: Pliny the Elder set a high bar...
<8> FTL Well that region is renowned for its thriving children *** salve industry..So moslims believe that the tsunami was a just punishment from allah
<4> Lupine: That's because China is still a devoping country.
<3> while you are at it, check the Meternick Stella, then follow that with Niel's Saga and the ROlf Kraki Saga.
<1> Boogy: ever notice, that the "super accurate temperature indicators" they use for measuring the past.. they NEVER use to measure today's temperature? there is a reason :-)
<11> Pliny the Younger never could quite attain it
<2> Gee Wont Global warming which causes warmer winters help reduce need for burning as much oil in the winter ? Golly Gee..
<9> thecolby - Since you most likely don't know, the number is less than 100 years. Gads!
<1> Bird: eh? mother earth doesn't give a **** about that.
<3> panini he stayed off the boat that day
<1> FT: well, according to a recent article in new scientists.. "global warming" will plunge northern and central europe into a "mini ice age"..
<2> I is a geenyus
<9> thecolby - You cannot tell me if what you are seeing is cyclical or not!
<1> bird: mother earth doesn't care about WHY global warming happens.. the polical reasons behind it
<4> There is no point in arguing about global warming, it's going to happen and we're seeing the horrible beginings of it.
<2> Lupine cool, I can get them to invest in real estate and make a profit
<3> the -get some real data, not National Sicence Foundation "oh my! the fudnign is drying up, get our lobbiest on it!" data
<12> freetrade is trolling...
<2> Freetrade is having fun and teasing.
<1> yea, FT is a horrible troller :-)
<2> Its slightly different from trollign
<12> yeh, i noticed
<2> hehe
<9> FT - Are you trolling again? LOL
<3> Free makes troll calls all the time
<4> China is a ****ty country anyway.
<4> Anyways.
<6> BoogyMan: can you tell me that this sudden sharp rise in temperatures is not due to human activities?
<2> Actually I can troll good, change my nick and address I can make a very convincing marxist.
<5> Dillon: the few "muslims" that actually beleive that, are part of the overwhelming minority. please dont try and link those zealots with Islam
<13> the levels of some of the great lakes have been discovered to be way higher than previously thought at earlier times
<1> FT: and not risk being kick/banned for trolling :-)
<5> just say no to ignorance
<13> climate changes arent necessarily caused by humans
<9> thecolby - I can tell you that theory and guesswork does not a fact make
<2> Because I studied Marx well.. I like to know who the enemy is or the ideology of the enemy. Though Marxists are really rare now days and dont constitute enough people to be an enemy
<8> Globalk warming will only get much much worse now that India and China (who's population accounts for HALF the human race) want to enjoy the same lifestyle as we do in the western world
<1> especto: on the flip side, I bought six houses on land that was underwater just a few centuries ago
<2> Lupine, I was banned one night.
<4> We have ****ed up this planet bad, the sooner we admit it the better.
<1> FT: ahahahahah
<4> Or we'll be caught with our pants down and be ****ed.
<13> meaning they blame some of the great lakes' higher levels on global warming
<2> I have not ****ed up this planet a bit, I have helped it
<3> might I suggest a itnersting read on this?
<3> Handler P., and K. Andsager, 1994: El-Nio, Volcanism, and Global Climate. Human Ecology, 22, 37-57
<2> Every tree I use allows a 2 new trees to be planted.
<9> lolol
<1> well.. the growth of trees in the northern hemisphere has been catastrophic for the ecosphere..
<4> ok
<13> but more recent geologic studies more than suggest that previously in history the levels were way way higher than they are expected to get
<11> vasili0s: a *majority* of muslims (vast majority too) believe allah controls the weather, not a few "zealots"
<3> hey I am merely a hayseed, try some of them smart fellers they might know a thing'er two
<13> by environmentalists flaming about global warming
<4> Gonna be funny when mother nature gets us all back.
<3> ecologist used to be a scientific study, now its a flippin religion
<4> and kills 1/3 of humans
<6> i dont think it would do good for anyone to suggest to not be concerned about global warming
<2> You who think you have drestroyed the environment, Relish the guilt, You deserve it.
<2> Iwant you to have sleepless nights, I want you to suffer horribly for your sins.
<8> vasilio: The VAST majority of moslems aren't secular..they believe in the literal word of the koran which are not open to debate or interpretation)
<3> thecolby you be concerened then. but while you are, keep your hand out of my pocket
<9> thcolby - Where are your facts? All you have presented is hyperbole
<2> I in the meantime am going to whoop it up and enjoy it.
<3> damn fools off half cocked
<6> BoogyMan: facts abound. do not be ridiculous.
<0> and i think he means it!
<0> hehe
<2> Actually it probably kind of a sin thinking you have so much power over nature.
<0> nope its not
<2> A sin like in the since of a deceptive arrogant vain belief.
<6> BoogyMan: you want to see a map comparing greenland today from 5 years ago?
<3> I suggested some data. read the sources THEN come back and intelligently discuss the issue. Anythign short of that is fanatical religious argument
<5> panini: theres a difference in beleiving such natural occurances are controlled by a God, then from beleiving God purposley punished them in particular because of the US's foreign policy.
<0> the bible says god gave us the animals and the plants
<9> thecolby - I guess you just don't have access to any of them? All you have given is current state information and *NOTHING* to show a progression over time
<9> GADS
<5> how would they go about explaining all the disasters around the globe?
<0> we can do what we want with them=)))
<2> I love the word sin and I use it secularly to mean having Fault.
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