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Comments:
<0> yes hernick
<0> quite well
<1> Imo, we should encourage Latin America to go Socialist. Chinese capitalist reforms are our big headache these days. Socialist countires stay poor, in debt and dependent.
<0> but, you left out one line
<2> Dr. bud, you believe that sports is a cure for ADHD?
<3> sforza or something
<0> "If you're intelligent, have a mind of your own, and are not the media's bitch...then you don't give a rats ***"
<0> :)
<3> tortured lots
<4> e-Hernick sure.
<0> the cure for ADHD is to give people lots of neato amphetamines
<4> e-Hernick dump a child infront of a tv or playstation for 10 hours a day, how the hell do you expect them to behave in a cl***room.
<0> didn't you know that?
<2> suna: correct!
<1> Lobotomy -- extra deep
<4> get them doing something ACTIVE
<0> also, any kid who doesn't wanna go to bed on time or listen to his parents is ADD or ADHD
<0> ****ing retard parents
<0> give their 5 year old cookies at 7 and want him/her to go to bed at 8....
<0> doesn't happen?
<0> ADHD!
<0> GOTTA BE!
<1> "Research shows, patient complaints decreased dramatically as more brain tissue is removed"
<0> ****ing retard parents. death to retard parents.
<2> Do you know how well stimulants work?
<2> It's overdiagnosed, I'll give you this.
<1> Do the Ritalin kids become adult meth-heads? That's what I'm not sure of.
<5> man I should pay more attention...
<2> But it's real and it's treatable.
<5> hernick how well stimulants work for what
<5> I know when I can't sleep I drink some herbal tea
<2> Rebec: as treatment for ADD
<0> yup
<6> when i can't sleep i drink beer and smoke pot
<6> :-/
<0> it's almost as bad as teenage depression
<1> teenage depression is totally normal.
<7> Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms" should be a convenience store, not a government agency
<0> all these kids taking meds that they can't possibly understand ...because they chose to lie to a tharapist in order to get attention
<4> kids who excercize sleep better, think clearer, and dont generally **** at life like kids who do nothing except sit on their *** every moment they arent in school
<7> teen depression? that wha you get when pappy waps ya upside the hed?
<0> My wife divorced me, I'M SAD! "WAHT? TAKE THIS PAXIL!"
<3> i have come to grips w/ internet bullying
<1> Teenage, is when they find out they aren't going to be football players and movie stars, and will slave away at crappy jobs for the rest of their life. LIke duh, they are going to be depressed.
<0> ****ing bs
<8> ritalin kids grow up to be democrats
<0> I was 'depressed' as a teenager. I was also stoned, drunk, fat, and having ***
<0> damn
<3> they are projecting
<0> I had it bad
<7> panini dope makes for dopes
<1> Welcome to the machine.
<5> hernick in children or adults?
<5> in children it's supposed to work well, but I don't really believe that I think it's over drugged and over diagnosed
<7> I prefer comnputers as my drug of choice
<3> some abuse they have suffered
<0> :)
<4> Espectro so when some norweigan irc hacker calls you a flaming pile of ****, he's referring to himself?
<1> Yeah I swear, I think recreation drugs, like destabilize the brain or something. Cuz it seems like a lot of ex drug users have depression issue.
<0> interesting pilgrim. I've known hundreds of drug addicts in my life, and hundreds of comp addicts
<3> i'm not sure
<0> know what i've noticed? drug addicts are usually happier
<0> comp addicts are miserable
<1> Drug addicts are cranky, seems to me.
<7> suna same here; I helped a buddy do the dry out number from heroin once...
<0> well, i'll rephrase
<0> drug addicts are less miserable
<0> I shouldn't call them happy
<0> :)
<3> it took support from friends
<2> My personal experience with ADD is that I wasn't diagnosed until I was 22. I only finished high school, and college had not been a good experience for me. Flunked every cl***. At age 22, I'm diagnosed, given a script for stims, and I go back to college to test myself. 1 calculus and 1 chem course. Well, what do you know, 96% score average, best grade in both cl***es.
<7> I seem to be happy
<7> wonder what I am doing wrong?
<3> to achiveve some stasis
<0> yah comps never made me that miserable. They made me ANGRY AS ****ING HELL sometimes
<0> especially when I was into coding for a while
<2> But on the more human level, my ability to focus went up from 15 minutes tops to about 3 hours.
<5> hernick I honestly don't know enough about adult add to comment on stims for it.
<0> a short while
<3> i've been wanting to tal about twobar for some time
<7> I am pretty depressed about my latest project but tomorrow is another day
<3> but he's inimidating
<5> pilgrim is it something you want to talk about
<2> Rebec: To this day I believe that I would have been much more successful in school if I had been diagnosed when I was younger.
<0> even today a computer-based problem unreasonably pisses me off
<7> Twobar has the heart of a young boy...........in a jar on his desk
<0> like if my wlan has problems
<0> I just get mad
<0> illogically mad
<4> e-Hernick yeah but a lot of that is mental. send some depressed person to a shrink, the shrink tells em we'll fix you write up! woohoo take these! the person's attitude has been shifted, more positive, and the belief that the drugs WILL fix the prob is enough to prompt change, even if the pills dont do a goddamn thing
<2> Rebec: for the simple fact that I do incredibly much better in school and at work when on stims
<5> hernick have you read the book driven to distraction?
<2> Rebec: I had
<2> I have, yes
<2> Life in fast forward, too
<7> Rebec I am attemptign to resurect either of a Rev1 or a rev2 First Cl*** Peripherals Sider drives I got from Goodwill
<7> one I knwo has a bad power supply
<7> one is I think a 20mb the other may be a 40
<2> bud`: sure, it's all in the brain. I'm not denying this. I'm just saying that my brain works way, way better when on stims
<5> pilgrim hmmm I see oh happy festival I can't remember the name
<5> Hernick
<7> these are pre-SCSI drives for the Apple II
<5> pilgrim wow
<7> I have the format utility for them...that took doing... but so far the rom on the card I built is not talking right
<5> have you read driven to distraction?
<5> pilgrim you built it
<2> Rebec: as I replied earlier, I have read it, and I have read Life in Fast Forward, too.
<5> I haven't heard of that one, is driven to distraction any good. It was recommended to me but I have been too distracted :)
<5> and I am sorry I missed your reply
<7> well yeah...I sort of took some stuff apart, rewired a project card from another gadget and have a ROM image from a Xebex SASI driver
<2> Yes, of the books I read about ADD, it is my favourite.
<2> It presents some extreme cases, but there are cases I could relate to.
<5> pilgrim ok I barely understood any of that....did you get the yoda widget
<2> I'm not on the extremes though.
<7> Its kind of old kind of weird a little complicated
<4> best thing you can do for your concentration and self esteem and energy is to honestly excersize
<2> bud`: I don't have a self-esteem problem
<2> bud`: and I have tons of energy
<4> e-Hernick not saying you, everyone, in general
<3> certainly a spring thing
<5> I have a self bud problem
<4> also for sleep problems
<7> I am attempting to stop the llf before it goes to the ful multipartition thing that creates a Pascal partition, 2 DOS 3.3 partitions, 1 CP/M partition, and 2 ProDOS partitions; I want just ProDOS
<3> do a few pushups and try to get some chick
<5> bud my sleep problems are connected to my anxiety disorder I am hoping the meds cure the sleep problem
<7> llf- Low Level Format
<5> Espectro lol you just speak and they like your accent
<1> Yeah if you want self-esteem, smoke pot and take a lot of cocaine, and you'll think you're just great.
<2> I have sleep issues cause I can't stop thinking.
<5> ke I heard that before
<7> Rebec I use chamomile tea
<5> hernick I have that problem too I think ALL the time
<2> It's annoying, that I can't pause my brain.
<7> you can
<5> pil yeah I use that or peppermint tea or I had red tea tonight
<1> You need to learn to medidate. :)
<7> learn meditation techniques
<5> no I can't stop thinking I think all the time
<5> ALL the time
<7> of course.
<1> yeah that's what Buddhism is all about. Shutting off the brain.
<5> even when I meditate I think
<2> pilgrim`: yeah, I can get into a trance, that's the easy part, but then I can't fall asleep
<1> Meditation puts me to sleep.
<7> yes you can.
<1> Hard part for me is staying awake while meditating
<7> the way it is done is to concentrate on not
<7> find not
<7> a loan is the key
<2> I usually start counting from 00 to 11 in binary, synchronised to my heartbeat, in an infinite loop.
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