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Comments:
<0> Cryolas has 10 fingers.. all on the same hand
<1> boston transit is terrible
<2> Pickle: in the present
<1> ny is really impressive
<3> e-Hernick: regardless that they are on the same side of some issues
<4> real NY-ers are required to say ****e once an hour at a minimum
<2> IamKing: you believe that the ACLU does more harm than good, by trying to defend some civil liberties of their choosing?
<5> fudge
<6> e-Hernick: ISIL still exists, so them.
<5> fkuc
<7> USM they're required to say **** you once an hour
<8> The only right-wing nuts that have a beef with the ACLU are the right-wing Christian theocrats, since they hold up other people's right not to have to pay taxes to spread their bull****.
<2> IamKing: do you have an example of the ACLU doing harm?
<3> e-Hernick: they are on the wrong side of issues a strong majority of the time
<4> hahah
<2> IamKing: example/
<5> Someone7 define bull****
<9> Pickle: Intersil Corporation?
<7> USM being from Jersey I know that because I have to say **** you every half hour
<3> e-Hernick: defending NAMbLA for one
<8> Christianity.
<10> e-Hernick yes! more than one
<4> Rebec: ah, not from the shore then ?
<11> Bull****: crap from a cow man how!!!
<7> USM no
<9> Rebec: What if you don't?
<4> shore wimmen are more laid back
<0> MrRod has green hair and thinks she's a tree..retard
<6> I will support the ACLU when I see them defend the second Amendment, rather than boycotting it.
<7> MrRod you lose your citizenship :)
<11> US-Male you have me on ignore?
<7> ask USM he'll tell you
<6> Until then, they get the hypocrite tag from me.
<8> IamKing, they defend the KKK to. They've even defended Hannity's right to say anti-homo***ual **** on the air. They defend anyone's right of freedom of speech.
<11> no matter who they are
<7> now new englanders have to say it every 15 minutes
<1> it every 15 minutes
<8> Pickle, the uphold the SCOTUS decision on the 2nd amendment.
<2> "In representing NAMBLA today, our M***achusetts affiliate does not advocate ***ual relationships between adults and children. What the ACLU does advocate is robust freedom of speech for everyone. The lawsuit involved here, were it to succeed, would strike at the heart of freedom of speech."
<3> Someone7: there's a difference between freedom of speech and inducing illegal activity (such as helping pedophiles evade law enforcement)
<11> Rebec New Englanders can say Bloddy Hell too :)
<2> "It is easy to defend freedom of speech when the message is something many people find at least reasonable. But the defense of freedom of speech is most critical when the message is one most people find repulsive."
<3> e-Hernick: free speech is not absolutely unlimited
<7> Cry yes they say that every 5 minutes...so I have trouble being a new englander by birth and having grown up in NJ my language is terrible
<11> IamKing or a college professor all but condoning child ***
<6> Someone7: Yes, but I have a feeling they wouldn't agree with a SCOTUS opinion that nullified the First Amendment. They would fight it.
<3> this has been supported by case law since the beginning of this country
<9> Johan-: Man, you sure are big on insults tonight.
<4> it's the full moon
<12> AT&T wont stand a chance ....no customers will trust the company with kind of secret wiretapping by NSA at AT&T offices
<11> well if yer from NJ Rebec...speak like the Sopranos do LOL
<12> AT&T will file bankrupcy soon
<11> CockS*****!
<8> So? They take a neutral position on the 2nd ammendment. Face it, the 2nd ammendment was never meant to give people the right to own gun unrestricted. It is simply an inaccurate reading.
<9> cubb: It's not secret wiretapping. It's undocumented wiretapping.
<11> AT & T was bought out by a baby bell
<6> Someone7: Face it, that's a pile of horse ****.
<13> MrRod good one
<2> I believe that ACLU should defend free speech even when the case they advocate is evil. It's a role that somebody has to play. Somebody has to defend organisations as evil as NAMBLA. If they don't get lawyers, the law will not be tested correctly. If the ACLU loses their case, then the law has evolved, or justice has been done. If the ACLU wins, then justice has been done too.
<11> Someone7....BULL****!!!!!
<14> crayon: i have blond hair/blue eyes..u are a subserviant being
<8> I don't oppose gun-ownership.
<2> It is not the ACLU that decides the outcome of the case.
<12> well, I know my next month's cell phone bill wont' come from AT&T :P
<9> Conspire: Are you a "real" blonde?
<2> They merely provide legal services to those whose cases are so despicable that they otherwise wouldn't get a good defense.
<8> Trying to pretend it is there in the Constitution is just nonsense. The 2nd amendment is a State's right to arm their militias.
<4> wow, so blondes really are dumb ?
<10> Someone7 -- you do know how to read English and why commas are there?
<15> Conspire, you are devoiced (Requested by Cryolas - Reason: nein du bist Untermenschen )
<9> Kaliuna: Are we going to argue over a comma again?
<6> The Second Amendment is the people's right to bear arms.
<3> hahahahah
<6> Not the states.
<16> 20 Years ago, the US raided Libya
<2> Also, on the second amendment, they're pretty silent. They're not gun control advocates
<11> that an answer conspire??
<8> I've never seen a double hyphen in English. Can you read English and do you know what a hyphen is for?
<10> MrR -- if necessary
<2> "The national ACLU is neutral on the issue of gun control. We believe that the Constitution contains no barriers to reasonable regulations of gun ownership."
<9> Kaliuna: Then I'm going to bathe the cat.
<11> hyphen is what girl has and guy...oops...
<10> Someone7 - you'd be surprised what I know
<2> "Most opponents of gun control concede that the Second Amendment certainly does not guarantee an individual's right to own bazookas, missiles or nuclear warheads. Yet these, like rifles, pistols and even submachine guns, are arms. "
<2> "The question therefore is not whether to restrict arms ownership, but how much to restrict it. If that is a question left open by the Constitution, then it is a question for Congress to decide. "
<6> The Second Amendment enfranchises the people, with the explaination being the need for well-armed (which is what "regulated" meant in that context) militias.
<9> Someone7: Is English not your native language?
<1> lol remember when ann coulter said canada sent troops to viet nam
<6> That fact is clear in the wording of the Second Amendment.
<8> Did you know the first letter of a sentence is capitalized in English Kaliuna?
<6> e-Hernick: There you go. Hypocrites.
<8> Apparently not.
<2> Pickle: do you believe that individuals should be allowed to own the atom bomb?
<9> Someone7: You're being a dork. At least Kaliuna isn't.
<10> Someone7 - You know so little about me or the stuff done in irc
<6> e-Hernick: Absolutely.
<15> Conspire is banned (Requested by Cryolas - Reason: Violating Channel Rules )
<8> Don't throw stones in a gl*** house, Kaliuna.
<10> hehehe MrR -- this certainly is not English cl*** is it?
<5> SonOfSpam what a right wingnut
<8> Because your sentences look like ****.
<10> lol such a fool
<5> Someone7 so what
<9> Someone7: Knock it off.
<10> Who gives a crap
<5> Someone7 who the right wing nut
<5> Someone7 this is irc
<11> gopp...it is???
<8> Tell it to Kaliuna.
<5> Cryolas NO it english 101
<9> Someone7: I'm telling it to you. Ya hear?
<5> Someone7 yes, but you should try
<10> Someone7 then learn how to read the constitution.
<2> Pickle: well, if that's your position... But still, I don't believe that you should call them hypocrites for their neutral position on the second amendment. Your interpretation is different than theirs. I mean, your interpretation is significantly different from the legally accepted interpretation, as validated numerous times by the Supreme Court. The ACLU doesn't agree with you either.
<2> Pickle: they're not hyprocrites just because they have a different constitutional interpretation than your own
<17> hehe, check out my ip
<8> I do. I follow the same reading as the SCOTUS. which is the only reading that actually reads the whole damn thing, and makes sense of the historical information.
<11> so?
<11> IPv6
<17> yeah. big deal I know
<11> :)
<3> e-Hernick: get a ****ing clue...an incorrect interpretation can indeed be hypocritical in nature
<11> Cert tests are now requiring you know someting about it
<3> e-Hernick: just because they have an opinion does NOT mean that that opinion is not hypocritical
<6> e-Hernick: Their interpretation is that the Second Amendment doesn't matter. Which means they pick and choose what parts of the Constitution need to be upheld. You can't do that with the Constitution, and not be a hypocrite.
<17> ipv6 is pretty straightforward
<11> more numbers to remember
<11> but solves some subnetting issues
<9> badmojo: How about ipv6 over Firewire?
<17> that's what dns is for
<17> MrRod: no point
<2> Pickle: they are neutral on it. And yes, you can pick and choose what parts of the constitution to defend. Do you call the NRA hypocrites because they don't defend and support every part of the constitution equally?
<11> looks like yer name pipe is broken
<17> MrRod: as long as it's a standard network interface it will work
<8> They're upholding the second ammendment just fine, Pickle.
<2> Pickle: organisations have to focus on something. They can't defend everything, or else they'll do a bad job at it. So they pick things they can defend.
<9> badmojo: IPv6 over RS-232.
<11> heh
<3> e-Hernick: being neutral on a topic means you don't take a position...they specifically took a hypocritical position...there is a difference
<13> heh
<8> It's a State's right.
<13> old school
<17> rs232 is serial?
<11> yes
<11> LOL
<2> Pickle: It's the ACLU, not the "American Constitutional Defense Union"
<3> e-Hernick: no matter how much they doth protest, they are certainly NOT neutral in their position concerning the 2nd Amendment
<6> e-Hernick: They are an organization specifically devoted to the civil liberty of gun ownership. They don't pretend to be for civil liberties in general, like the ACLU.
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