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Comments:
<0> DarthBurg: Someone is claiming Plame was still covert? Ahh geez
<1> Still the indictments are obstruction and perjury charges and one more.
<2> Red_Barch well, what can you do with the freaking media bias
<3> sintient, lying to Federal investigators....all the same thing
<4> hey any here used a osx theme
<5> ok, keep living in faith based reality
<5> im gonna go eat
<1> Perjury is perjury in a case about stolen candy or in a case about decl***ified information or cl***ified information leaks.
<3> Lithium-, how long do you think it would take Fitz to determine if Plame was covert? 3 yrs?
<2> Lithium- again employs the time honored Donkey debate tactic, "Cut n Run"
<1> It isn't really part of the case is it?
<2> sorry
<3> sintient, but if you lie to a federal investigator, that is a crime, perjury and obstructing justice....all in one
<0> DarthBurg: You know how you end this conversation really quickly? You point out that in 3 years time and $20 million dollars spent by your federal government, only one person was procecuted for lying to the grand jury, and not a single suspect was found guilty on any of the original charges.
<1> And that is what he is proving.
<6> The left's efforts to abuse legal process as a means to overthrow elected representatives would be outrageous if they weren't so pathetic and doomed to failure.
<1> That libby said tim russert told him when in reality it was **** cheney.
<3> sintient, no, that is what he is claiming. He has yet to prove it
<2> Red_Barch such logic and reality do not bear well with people who have strong beliefs in Myths and falsehoods
<0> Who needs proof when we have George Bush to skewer!!!
<1> Libby admited under oath that cheney told him to tell a newspaper man about the case this year.
<2> Pickle I am stealing that.
<1> And in 2003 he said it was tim russert.
<1> Like saying that Clinton got away with lieing when he was disbarred.
<1> And had fines I believe.
<3> sintient, and Fitz has to prove it was an intentional lie, not forgetting. Since plame was not covert, there was no reason to lie
<1> He wasn't kicked out of office over a perjury charge though but he didn't get away with it.
<2> sintient, well, its not our fault we have to keep reminding Donkeys Bill got busted
<1> He still might have lied.
<7> sintient: "this case" = Wilson's story on niger != valerie plame
<8> sintient, Libby isn't a lawyer
<2> really?
<2> i did not know that
<3> Lupine, you just ***ume that is the case. Doesnt matter no one said that, it must be true or their story doesnt work
<1> He could still get fines or 30 years in jail.
<1> Up to.
<2> true
<7> OH: lol.. yea
<0> Hi, I'm a liberal. Let me tell you a little about myself. I hate everyone and everything that does not have my point of view. You like God? You're a loon. You believe in securing our borders? You're a racist. You don't think women should get an abortion? You're a ***ist. You don't think gay guys should be kissing each other as theyre walking in the gay pride parade down the street? You're a bigot! Being a liberal is full of love huh?
<2> but Valerie plame is still just "Cl***ified"
<8> sintient, how about Mary Mccarthy? how much could she get?
<7> darth: i bet whether or not ANYONE worked for teh CIA is "cl***ified"
<1> I remember people saying it was ok to release information about her because president bush can decl***ify anything he wants.
<3> How about Sandy Burglar? Stealing and destroying docs in a Senate investigation gets a slap on the wrist?
<7> sin: that is an all together different topic.. but yes, generally he should be able to decl***ify what he wishes.
<2> Lupine it is a status enjoyed by the vast majority of CIA employees, especially "Analysts" and desk jockey paper pushers
<1> I thought there was a process to decl***ifications but people in here said the president can out anything or anyone he wants becaues he is the president and there are no check or balances on cl***ifications of data.
<7> OH: stealing clasififed papers by stuffing down his pants!
<3> But libby deserves 30 yrs
<3> sintient, guess what, the president has that right.
<1> He can but I think he has to tell the cia head to let him know one of his men or women is about to get her picture pasted on the news.
<7> sintient: you are ignorant if you think that. there maybe MULTIPLE methods of decl***ifications.. something that maybe beyond your grasp to comprehend.
<1> There is a process.
<3> sintient, you should learn more about the topic before speaking
<1> What I have looked it up.
<0> You tell me how Bill Clinton can order American troops into Croatia against UN orders, go in and kill thousands of people without any sort of permission from anyone, and he's not in jail as a war criminal? Can someone explain that?
<1> You guys said there was no process comet told me he can do what he wants.
<2> Red_Barch easy, Bill is a Donkey
<1> But I have read that he is supposed to war the heads of the organizations involved.
<7> sintietn: stop lying.. it's unbecoming
<9> Red_Barch: yeah , hypocisy
<1> I am not lieing about anything.
<7> of ****ING course there is a process in place for various people to decl***ify information.
<9> Democrats place DNC above USA
<3> sintient, if you looked it up, you need to work on your reading comprehension
<7> no one claimed that only Bush can decl***ify information
<1> What did I say that was wrong?
<7> you've got your nuts up so far up your bung, its squeezing your prostrate
<10> Lupine is lying prostrate on the channel
<0> US-Male: Howard Dean cant even state his party's "gay stance" correctly, and gets the gay and lesbian alliance angry and sends him a letter saying they dont support the DNC anymore. Way to go Howard!
<2> ARGH
<10> trying to feel his own prostate
<1> I didn't say only bush can but I think there are some ethical processes you should do like telling the head of the cia when you are going to make one of his agents front page news.
<1> It might be an ethics thing.
<2> SHE WAS NOT A ****ING AGENT
<1> BUt I have heard decl***ification process.
<10> backpedal ... QUICKLY
<9> Howie is the best thing to happen for Repubs
<0> It must be hard for democrats to keep track of the party stances for each of the minority groups they pander to
<10> Red: especially since they contradict each other
<2> where are the ethics is claiming someone is something she is not so you can attack people who point out reality, oh yeah, there ain't any
<10> we believe in equality for all americans, except for A, B, C, D, E, F ....
<7> #1 there is no evidecne she was a covert agent for teh CIA #2 there is no evidence that Bush told anyone to leak her name to the media.
<10> who deserve special considerations
<0> Let's get George Bush any way possible! And lets waste 100 million dollars doing it! Ready... GO!
<2> if it were not for the 24/7/365 Donkey Media Bias, Donkeys would not get elected anywhere but Jersey, Chicago, and LA
<1> There is testimony that cheney told libby to leak the information to the media.
<10> and except for Z, X, Y who do not deserve protection under the constitution
<1> There is testimony that rove discussed the case with novak on the phone.
<10> Darth: and NYC
<0> you guys are barking up the wrong tree, seriously
<2> OcDoc yeah I was thinking I shoulda added the Big Apple worm
<1> Likely, due to the long nose congress.
<0> If you wanna get george bush, go after his jack abramoff connection
<0> this plame business is dead
<10> Darth: dufinitly
<3> sintient, for that to be an issue, Plame had to be covert. She was not covert.
<1> What about GWB saying he caught a 7.5 pound perch?
<9> lol
<10> long nose ... hehe, that's a new one on me
<1> The largest perch on record is 4 pounds.
<2> OMG!
<2> hahahah
<9> DNC is offically over =)
<1> The ****ING ISSUE is the godamn testimony is the case.
<2> HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
<10> sintient: 4 kilosd
<9> [12:35] <1> What about GWB saying he caught a 7.5 pound perch?
<9> LOL
<1> That was a bill maher joke this week on real time.
<1> Her covertness isn't part of the case damn.
<3> no sintient, they are just trying to entrap people in an investigation that never should have been. THAT is the issue
<1> If she was covert you wouldn't find any evidence of it or she wouldn't be covert would she/
<3> sintient, are you for real? That is what the investigation was about
<9> yeah so everyone is now covert =)
<1> So what you investigate one thing, then you find out the people you talked to lied so you indict them.
<11> lol
<1> It can be about puppies or kittens or in this case it was about cia agents and decl***ifing things to combat bad public sentiment.
<10> White Perch Mrs. Earl Small 4 lb. 10 oz. 1959 Messalonskee Lake Maine United States
<1> It isn't about her status, it is about what libby said.
<3> sintient, there was never anything to investigate. One phone call proves plame was not covert. The rest is a dog and pony show.
<11> Shipping on 14 br*** figurines....$7.30
<1> And it might be about what rove said.
<9> sintient: is it OK to lie about blowjobs under oath ?
<8> sintient, you ever been fishing? You're *supposed* to lie about the fish you caught (or almost caught). It's tradtitional
<11> cost of auction ...$.01
<11> priceless
<1> US male Clinton lost his law license.
<1> He didn't get away with it.
<2> "Beam Me Up, Scotty, the Fishing here ****s
<9> sintient: is it OK ?
<1> Of course lieing is bad.
<1> But the punishment should fit the crime.
<9> sintient: OK so try to take Bush's law license =)
<11> Keptinn, ay dannae why the transporter malfunctioned...
<1> Clinton paid fines too.
<10> FRENCH ANGLER Bernard Bru has smashed the Lake N***er shore caught Nile perch record of 110lb. His fish weighed in at a staggering 179lb beating the lake's previous shore record by a m***ive 69lb!
<11> new we will have a prob getting 'im back!
<1> Libby is the one idicted.
<9> sintient: OK so try to take Libby's law license =)
<3> lol
<1> You guys are so much of bush apologists you try to get him cleared when he isn't even indicted.
<1> OK.
<9> HAHAHA
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