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<0> Until we curb the politicians, the debt can only grow larger
<0> and it is both repubs and dems
<1> hehe
<2> wow .. they used to tell parents to put their infants to sleep on their tummy .. and many smothered themselves. They came out with a recommendation to put babies to sleep on their back's and there was a 40% decline in SIDS.
<3> if any corporation spent like congress
<4> AAAman well, people drive the economy, not govt. and bushes pro-growth policy works fine imho
<5> I am a moderately rich person with a conscience
<0> MikeJ, that's right
<3> they'd be hauled off to jail ... in no time flat
<6> Twobar So I say we need to attack the huge gap on both ends: 1) definitely, absolutely, positively by restraining spending and 2) though difficult, regrettable, unfortunate, finding the best way to increase revenues without further burdening those who can least afford it.
<0> exactly
<7> AAAman: have you ever had to work for a living ?
<0> FedUp, I basically agree.
<7> AAAman: or were you born "moderately rich" ?
<5> US-Male - -no
<8> the total national debt is $8.4T
<6> Twobar That's called making hard choices and marshalling all possible solutions; it's not about "loving to raise taxes"
<3> bmc, and counting
<0> AAAman is a moderately rich person with huge manboobs
<3> well
<7> AAAman: then you cannot truly understand how a $500 tax cut can be helpful
<4> Twobar jealous?
<7> to you, it's peanuts
<5> US-Male -- Pencil pusher and talker
<3> if we eliminated the bush tax cuts, we'd be able to fund the iraqi conflict for 10 years without having to raise taxes
<0> FedUp, yes. I think we have to absolutely curb their spending, and then proceed to carefully raise taxes for as long as it takes to pay off the debt
<3> or use emergency bills
<7> AAAmanL then you were lucky
<0> bud, hell yes
<3> its just unsound governance to not fund a war directly
<8> $8.367 T actually
<3> its downright immoral
<5> US-Male -- Not everyone is fortunate.
<3> no one likes raising taxes
<7> there's nothing wrong with being rich -- if you have a conscience give away YOUR money
<3> not even dems
<0> FedUp, I know that I have to pay off my credit card each month or the interest eats me up. That is why we have to do that
<9> Poor iraqi veterans.
<3> because they lose voters
<3> they just do it
<3> im not saying raising taxes are a good thing
<7> AAAman: see above. Be generous with YOUR money, not mine. I wasn't born "moderately rich"
<6> Twobar Clinton's approach was to work on both fronts at once. And as far as the deficit's growth goes, it worked pretty well. Clinton's tax increases were focused mostly on the top 5% of all wage earners.
<9> I want to drink with the VFW
<3> im just saying in wartime, sometimes you have to do hard things
<10> FedUp -- it was NOT his approach at all - he had NO approach -- except for females
<0> FedUp, Clinton and all the politicians dont stop spending, not near enough. They need to go on a super diet of spending
<4> too many people want govt. that rules based on todays talking points, instead of looking at what historically works well, and implementing it.
<3> what's interesting, is that clinton's tax raises did not break the Laffer threshold
<7> and not only that, if you give not even one penny, it doesnt mean you have no consience
<4> and sticking to it
<6> Twobar You'll never pay off your credit card debt only by reducing your spending. At some point, you'll need to make more money.
<5> US-Male -- I agree. The rich have benefited
<3> so in theory, the tax rates could have gone even higher than clinton's rate
<9> yeah lets get crazy and rule the world including iran
<9> whatever
<7> you might for example, feel that tax rates are already too high and hence you have already "given" enough
<3> without detrementing society
<8> not make more money, pay more than minimum payment
<0> FedUp, I have to have more coming in than I have going out.
<7> which I cannot argue with
<3> the problem is that it's an income tax
<11> FedUp, so you agree with taxing the rich, even if it means they can't create jobs by building business with that money?
<6> Twobar Agreed, absolutely. But that's not enough, and pretending that that can somehow magically happen and taking other options off the table is only attacking half the problem.
<3> if all taxes were like social security taxes
<8> if you only pay min payment, with interest youll be paying forever :P
<3> IE, taken from the employer
<3> it wouldnt be such a big issue
<10> FedUp -- then you get a second job...
<0> I think we should have a "hair tax". Politicians and televangelists would all be likely to incur this tax.
<6> TheTailor Yes, I most definitely don't subscribe to "trickle-down" economics.
<3> because no one would hate writing that huge check April 14th
<3> and gas prices
<3> geez
<3> congress are idiots
<5> Buffett said Berkshire's taxes rose more than eleven-fold to $3.3 billion from 1995 to 2003, as profits rose ten-fold to $8.15 billion.
<3> they're wailing against the high gas prices
<0> FedUp, if I have more money coming in than going out, I have solved the problem, if I then completely pay off all interest-incurring debt.
<3> but they have a $0.54 ethanol tariff
<10> Mike - everyone is - but what can congress do?
<9> US decision has to be more than 50 percent against iranian war
<3> after they required a switch to ethanol
<5> federal income taxes paid by all U.S. companies fell by 16 percent, to $132 billion.
<8> when are we gonna have ethanol widespread
<0> Politicians should all be locked in a tiny room and only allowed to vote on who has the best hair
<11> FedUp, at least you are honest in saying that part, to bad you are dishonest (or stupid) to think higher taxation spurs revenue.
<3> so, if they eliminated that tariff, gas prices would be lowered at least 20 cents
<3> if not more
<3> they legislated these higher prices
<5> Conscience; "We hope our taxes continue to rise in the future -- it will mean we are prospering -- but we also hope that the rest of corporate America antes up along with us," said Buffett...
<3> and are all going "duhhhhh"
<12> *yawn* What a nice nap. How's it going #politics? What's the latest debate?
<9> I am for america and ths iranian bullcrap doesn't suit me
<8> wonder what you need to do to a car to make it run on ethanol
<3> kali - that's what congress did
<6> Twobar Right. But if you have maxed out your credit cards, it doesn't matter how much you reduce what's going out, you're going to need to be more proactive about bringing more in to rescue yourself.
<4> Gujiri war is up to Iran, not america. and if it's not america it's someone else, Iran makes the inevitable decisions not american polls or presidents
<7> AAAman alleviate your conscience without my money
<3> bmc, nothing apparently
<5> You should pay more taxes if you earn more money, not less
<8> change injection stuff? tweek the computer?
<3> i havent had to do anything
<13> Twogar
<3> i do get warning lights though
<0> Crispy was dreaming about that life size nude poster of John Edwards he has on the ceiling
<8> MikeyD with what?
<8> E85?
<3> yeah i think so
<0> sulla
<7> no "moderately rich" person should be dipping into middle-cl*** wallets to alleviate his consience
<8> is your car flex fuel?
<12> Twobar: No doubt. What a ***y trial lawyer.
<3> no
<8> heh
<5> US-Male -- agree as Buffett said. "If cl*** warfare is being waged in America, my cl*** is clearly winning."
<14> barBar
<3> ive been getting warning lights out the wazoo
<8> doesnt run like ****?
<3> but it hasnt broken yet
<3> not particularly
<12> Twobar: What you failed to mention was all the knives on various parts of his body and the gunshots through the spots where his vital organs would be.
<3> it always had good mileage
<3> 37 city, 38 highway
<14> Kali...I am writing a nice little church battle as I speak...it should be delightfully offensive LOL
<8> i would think you would want to change some stuff
<7> AAAman: I'm making good money now -- you were lucky enough to be born with it, and you want to take more of mine ?
<6> TheTailor It's not dishonest. Again, look at Clinton's 1993 budget. Raised taxes on the top 5%, reduced spending, and cut the deficit by two thirds.
<7> hell let me catch up first
<3> well, the people in the shop
<9> bud you ont reakize that we can deal with this in other ways. You foorget that iran itself want to survive and make money
<8> maybe a hotter spark and such also? :P
<10> CRY -- really? hmm send it over so I can proof read it
<8> i dunno
<3> said it wasnt hurting anything
<3> they checked it out
<8> would have to be different for 'optimum' performace/mileage
<3> if they move to a full ethanol whatever
<14> it will be text correct...but still rough draft :)
<3> i'd have to get a new injector thingy
<4> Gujiri Iran is doing all the talk.
<3> they said
<3> but... for now, it's okay
<14> not sure I know how many i want killed in it yet
<10> Mike -- fuel injectors
<3> yeah, im not a car person
<10> Cry -- 50%
<14> its gonna happen in the monastery in 1607
<9> bud`, dont be mesmerised by their supposed leader
<10> CRY - minimal
<3> i just know: put key in slot, turn, put in gear, press down on pedal
<8> what about the fuel pump?
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