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<0> Whoops
<1> MrPrimate .. be specific. What was I dishonest about.
<2> it's like $5.50 in fl
<0> Nope
<3> Labor camps.. good idea
<2> or maybe more now
<0> I pay my son $5.00 an hour exactly
<3> I'm hotlining Bush right now
<4> $5.15 is fed minimum
<1> MrPrimate you just called me dishonest .. you had either back it up or pack your bags
<0> My son is 13.
<3> Freetrade, better bump that up
<2> CometBaby, whatever, I don't have time to go read through the logs
<0> hehe
<0> I will when hes experienced.
<5> bye bye mrprimate
<4> doom doom doom......
<6> The fact that the lowest wage you'll find moves upward with cost of living proves incontrovertibly that corporations could not reduce wages to "slave levels" with or without the minimum wage. They could reduce it to levels consistent with the area's cost of living and no lower.
<2> Here is one example of you being dishonest: CometBaby MrPrimate .. nobody lives on minimum wage.
<7> ta da boop
<1> he only pasted half the sentence
<2> whatever, kick me out, I already showed you being dishonest
<2> it's kinda lame of you to kick people out who have a differint opinion
<0> When I die I hope he is well off, owning my home and responsible enough to realize the future we could run into some serious problems..
<2> I suppose it's because you can't take the heat
<8> heh thats not true
<5> shoot then
<8> no one LIVES on minimum wage
<0> Like I said Over and over and Over again, My biggest economic concern is Demographic facts.
<6> A tiny minority of the workforces lives on minimum wage.
<4> 46----62---38.......
<2> people 'survive' on minimum wage
<8> that is a VERY true statement
<9> I did
<1> MrPrimate .. nobody lives on minimum wage. It is not designed for a living wage. And if that is ALL you have .. then you qualify for govt subsidies.
<0> If all things stay the same, its great
<0> But it isnt going to
<4> yep
<0> Its going to get worse
<9> you cn live on min wage and save money. I did
<8> pilgrim yeh but thats you=P
<2> I am sure there are plenty of people who get by on minimum wage
<9> of course I was living in a pickup at the time
<0> 2 people leave the job force one joins, what does that mean ? Eco 101 ?
<4> I made minimum wage as a pizza driver...
<8> i bet you could live with NO money and still find a way to save money hehehhehe
<10> does anyone know what kind of societal system would be under Social Choice Theory?
<0> Labor shortage.
<6> The vast majority of independent workers do not earn wages as low as minimum wage, nor anything close to it. And the vast majority of minimum-wage earners are not living independently.
<4> but tips
<0> And how do you deal with it ?
<9> I saved enough to get a better place to live, then I got a better job
<11> hai
<0> Immigration, Outsourcing or extreme wage inflation
<0> which can create a vicious cycle.
<0> Hey Timur.
<0> Ack the time.
<0> Time For Brit!
<6> And as per-capita GDP continues to grow at rates far exceeding the minimum wage increases, fewer and fewer workers will be earning anything close to minimum wage.
<9> I little sympathy for anyone ****ing at any form of the welfare teat. I have been "ain't eaten today, nor yesterday even!" poor and I GOT NO HELP!
<6> That is, unless ol' Teddy Kennedy gets his way and we boost the minimum wage to fifty bucks an hour.
<12> Pickle, Consider the research of economists Thomas Piketty and Emmanuel Saez: while we've witnessed several periods of immense growth in recent decades, the average real income of the bottom 90 percent of American taxpayers -- in other words, most of us -- actually fell by 7 percent between 1973 and 2000 - http://www.alternet.org/story/21816/
<2> I am not arguing for welfare or any type of government hand-out, but I don't think that minimum wage really qualifies as a hand-out.
<13> Thanks for the +v
<9> I do
<4> pilgrim hear hear
<11> hai
<4> the governent penalizes responsibility
<4> and rewards the opposite
<9> I once worked a job well eblow min wage. Why? I could have turned the boss in then...guess what? I have no job at all!
<9> and besides, I was learning something
<6> foaml: The average per capita GDP, which can't be fudged like bull**** "real income" figures, continues to rise at rates faster than inflation in America. This is not true of Europe, but that's their problem.
<4> hat you never wanted to have to wrok a job like that again?
<6> Er, per capita GDP, I should say--strike that "average".
<14> foaml: oh really? funny. I look at the average american, and they have far more to show, from far better cars, to cellphones.. how many average americans had a computer in 1973?
<12> Pickle, using an average means all of the gains could be at the top of the income distribution
<12> Pickle, but what would I know
<4> Lupine..none of them....
<4> a PC back then was size of ouse
<12> Pickle, I defer to your superior insight
<6> foaml: But never, ever does.
<4> of course now...poor means only one PC
<15> hahaha
<15> the digital divide!
<12> CryHavoc, Imagine trying to live on pay of $5.15 an hour. Even those who manage to work full time make just slightly over $10,500 a year -- $206 a week or about $900 a month, minus taxes and other deductions
<4> foaml...wahwahwah...
<2> foaml, yeha you would usually need at least 2 people combined to survive
<4> perhaps if they would hit books instead of 40s??
<12> Lupine, and that was true in 1920 too
<14> foaml: imagine how pathetic they must be, to only secure minimum wage.. month after month.. year after a year.
<11> so did Americans in 1973, or 1950
<4> I feel no pity for them
<16> foaml, it's quite doable.
<2> CryHavoc, **** i'd probably drink a lot more if I maed that much :]
<11> ..or, 1920
<4> I will be paying off my student loan for next 20 years....
<8> wages weren't 5.15 an hour in 1970
<11> CH: depends what kinda job you get..
<4> I worked as a pizza delivery driver for a year and a half..
<2> ah, what a rip, ... i'm sure glad I didn't waste any time on college
<14> hell, guys who move the lawns here, make more
<4> min wage lus tips
<4> plus
<6> The fact remains: The lowest income you will find anywhere continues to rise faster than minimum wage increases, and fewer and fewer primary earners are making so little.
<11> CH: what'll your degree be in again? sorry for forgetting..
<2> Pickle, of course this is always true because inflation always increases, so it's not possible really for this to be untrue
<2> Pickle, so they have to increase minimum wage every once in a while to try to keep up
<8> wasn't inflation a hell of a lot higher in the 1970's as well?
<8> I remember that whole Jimmy Carter 4 years of failure
<6> MrPrimate: If businesses wanted to (or could) put us all in the slave camps, that wouldn't be true. They'd continue to keep us enslaved at the lowest legal wage point.
<17> Bush's approval numbers are back down under 40%
<6> They'd ignore market factors. They'd be able to. Of course, in reality they can't...
<18> L0c0- they didn't poll this channel i guess
<9> gold is around $540/oz right now. that ain't good. but...under Carter gold hit above $900/oz a few times.
<6> No matter how big the business is, they continue to pay the rate the suppliers of labour demand.
<19> pickle: except doing so would crush demand
<4> $540 an ounce.....here we go :)
<4> silver is up too
<6> So here's the reality: the minimum wage isn't doing **** for the vast majority of Americans at this point. Not even organized labour, which has traditionally pegged its wage demands from the current minimum wage level.
<4> grimmy..yep...under Carter..faith in US currency eroded
<8> people don't understand that if you raise the rate of pay, the price of the goods produced go up as well, so raising the rate of pay does nothing
<4> gold and silver are politican proof commodities..
<4> they should remove the minimum wage..let market determine it
<6> And one continues to wonder at the fact that so few European socialist paradises have traditionally relied on a state-established minimum wage.
<20> gold is the ultimate anti-inflation investment
<4> silver works as well...
<4> proof is in the numbers..
<9> $1/I have a few engraved pictures of Paul Kruger...
<18> cardboard is good, too, if you acn store it
<8> Cry, I don't agree, basically not many people are being paid minimum wage at the moment to begin with, it would be a waste of time getting rid of something that basically no one uses or gets..
<4> remember when a buck would get 4 gallons of gas??
<9> Cry yes
<4> an ounce of Silver right now is worth 4 gallons of g*** even now
<8> it would be paying lawmakers to waste time when there are more important things to be concerned about
<9> Will Rogers once said: "thank GOODNESS you do not get all the government you pay for!"
<21> bbl... doc time
<9> Cry that is the point; Gold Silver wheat a bale of cotton. they have not changed in value one bit
<9> supply and demand in the market determiens their respective value. onlyt he means of taxation between them has changed
<4> so its the money that we use that has lost ground...
<20> man i dont understand the oil market
<22> what are "Jacobite guns"?
<20> all this **** happening right now with iran, and oil is falling
<20> and HARD
<20> whats even falling harder is oil stocks, now is the time to buy!
<4> Jacobites were a rebellious faction in England
<9> I would guess Napolean Cannon
<9> wellington brought home a few
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