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<0> I can tell you the formulas if you want something to work with.
<1> td-, What is great about America is that we spend so much money on disease causing liquor and tobacco products! If the liberals took charge they might use all that money to do something evil like educate children or fund healthcare
<2> It is rare, but some people are forced into a life of fry cooking.
<3> MikeyD, there are a lot of reasons that someone might be poor, which don't all relate to them making horrible mistakes in life
<4> those people are in no danger of having to be abused by corporations as the fed and state pretty much takes care of their basic needs
<2> Too much money is already going into education and healthcare
<4> ok, give me an examoke
<0> 9 years from now because Ive been yelling about it for a year.. 2 baby boomers will retire for every new job seeker.
<1> td-, We need to devote more economic resources to luxury yacht production and away from child abuse protection services
<0> What does that obviously mean ?
<0> Unemployment will go to the lowest its every been since recorded
<3> MikeyD, say someone who has disabled parents they have to take care of -- or someone might have lost their job and home in a hurricane for example
<2> I dont think so
<0> This will cause wage inflation.
<2> america is overpopulated
<2> too few jobs
<0> And i fear a vicious cycle than reigning in money wont solve.
<3> the whole world is overpopulated -- I think most of our problems would be solved by a severe reduction in population
<1> MrPrimate, Just the other day I saw a minimum wage earning single mother buy food for her children, clearly this is a sign the minimum wage is too high
<5> td-... unemployment is at a historical low... how can there be too few jobs?
<4> and once again, those people through the state are taken care of. theres also programs which provide funding for caretakers
<2> How can't there be
<0> td, WE are going to have to allow so many people to immigrate in to this country to normalize the economy.
<1> td-, The two most important things for us to do are to continue to DECREASE taxes on the rich while bankrupting the government via needless foreign wars, corporate welfare, etc
<3> if the world population dropped in half in 50 years everyone would be doing great
<3> (except the ones who didn't make it :)
<4> now, the fact is that taking care of disabled people is a valueable job skill which they can take to the free market
<0> MrPrimate not so.
<4> whats stopping them from doing that?
<6> MrPrimate .. losing your job in a hurricane does not make one poor. People lose their jobs everyday .. without hurricanes. If they are responsible they save for the rainy day.
<0> If the world population grew at 5% a year it would be ideal.
<0> The problem is its growing in the wrong places.
<2> All I hope is that these Katrina victims can get out of their 483$/day hotel rooms and back to rebuild the city
<3> CometBaby, it makes a lot of people poor, if you lose your house and job. I would be poor if I lost my job and home right now
<1> td-, Land barons and factory owners should pay no taxes, only the workers who work the land and work in the factories should pay taxes on their meager incomes!
<7> WASHINGTON A company in the United Arab Emirates is poised to take over significant operations at six U.S. ports as part of a corporate sale, leaving a country with ties to the Sept. 11, 2001, hijackers with influence over a maritime industry considered vulnerable to terrorism.
<2> Old news loco
<2> i posted that yesterday
<6> In fact .. if you lose your job in a hurricane you are better off then all the others who lost their jobs. Because then you get an immediate check, housing, food stamps, etc etc etc
<2> Cometbaby: some have never had it so good
<0> United Arab Emirates are our allies.
<6> none of which you ever have to repay or even be grateful for
<0> I am sure anyone allowed to work with it will be vetted by the FBI seriously
<3> right, whatever, but you are probably going to be cl***ified as poor because that money will go quick and a new job isn't going to just jump on you
<7> he UAE, a loose federation of seven emirates on the Saudi peninsula, was an important operational and financial base for the hijackers
<1> MrPrimate, It is the disabled who are running up our taxes...we should end all programs for the disabled and throw them out on the streets. This would make more room in the budget to buy military weapons with. If the disabled are too lazy to work why should the government support them? Why do the disabled think they are entitled?
<2> If i was on government subsidy and a hurricane and flooding tore my slums down.. and I see 5-6 months in a 5-star hotel
<3> CometBaby, if your family is living on food stamps and a few grand from the government, you're def. poor
<2> hooray!
<0> L0c0, These are very pro western governments.
<7> Last month, the White House appointed a senior DP World executive, David Sanborn of Virginia, as new administrator of the Maritime Administration of the Transportation Department.
<1> td-, Why don't liberals understand America is a Republic meant to serve the interests of aristocrats first? The Republicans understand the needs of aristocrats perfectly
<2> Bush's base buddy..
<0> You think the government wants to have terrorists guard our ports ?
<0> Dont be silly
<0> They wont be
<2> They need to be wined, dined and 69'd
<0> UAE is nor terrorists
<6> MrPrimate .. listen. I know a gal who has three kids, no husband. and no parents or sibblings. If she does not live with her hand out neither should anyone else.
<5> td-... if Bush's base were the aristocrats he'd never get elected.
<5> Just not enough of them to win an election.
<7> oh brother
<2> that article says that UAE was a source of the terrorism
<2> and is probably well backed up
<0> SOS and a lot of them didnt vote for him
<7> Mexican gov't teaming up w/ open border advocates
<0> If you know the facts
<0> A lot of the very wealthy are also liberal
<7> including Mecha and others
<3> CometBaby, I am not saying people should live with their hand out -- but she is able to work and never has to worry about being paid less tham minimum wage
<0> Look at Warren Buffet.
<0> Democrat
<3> CometBaby, without minimum wage then corporations could put a lot of people basically into labor camps
<2> look at Rupert Murdoch.
<2> Devil incarnate
<0> Bill Gates was a Democrat is still a certain type of liberal btu i wouldnt call him a leftist.
<0> Hes a bleeding heart type liberal..
<7> they protestd Lou Dobbs
<7> haha
<3> Bill Gates is a jerk
<0> Same with Steve Jobs
<0> No he isnt
<1> When workers in my factory tried to unionize I did what any good capitalist would do, I bribed the union leaders and hired the mob to deal with the rest. The mob threatened to kill their kids, roughed them up, T-boned their cars with delivery trucks, burnt their houses down, etc. But then the FBI got involved and I had to ship the whole factory over to Cambodia to use slave labor
<3> FreeTrade, IMO.
<6> MrPrimate .. listen. She went back to school while working and rasing those kids. She tried to get some help .. and was told that if she would quit her job, she would immediately qualify for public housing, food stamps, child care and paid tuition.
<0> Bill Gates has done more for america than any single corporation in the last 15 years.
<1> SE Asia is a great labor market...in my factory in Cambodia they chain the children directly to the machines and there are no unions
<2> And America **** on Bill Gates
<6> and a check every month on top of tht
<0> I may not agree with him on things, but man has he created a multi billion dollar economy
<3> CometBaby, I don't care about your friend's situation, that doesn't justify elimination of minimum wage to me
<6> she didn't do it .. she did it the hard way .. because she did not want to become dependent.
<2> I was sickened to see those anti-trust cases against Microsoft
<3> CometBaby, minimum wage isn't very high -- it doesn't exaclty pur corporations under.
<6> MrPrimate it shows that people who accept responsibility for their lives don't need to go thru life with their hand out.
<1> FreeTrade, yes, without Gates we would have to use GNU Linux for free? Think of the suffering!
<8> ok, I am going to get kicked for this but its FREAKIN' hilarious!!!!
<8> http://moid.org/ed/faggot0.jpg
<2> BAN
<6> If you want to sit on the couch, watch tv, do drugs and let the govt support you .. don't cry to me about how *poor* you are.
<0> Here is why I dont like Minimum wage.. I dont know anyone who is payed it, unless its a grandma which wants part time work which she can do for free as a public service or get a stipend from and feel productive.
<3> CometBaby, minimum wage isn't going around with your hand out -- you're just putting words in people's mouth
<8> HHAHAHA
<0> or a kid brand new to the job market at age 14
<3> CometBaby, your points have nothing to do with my statements
<1> FreeTrade, Gates is a great capitalist having stole the GUI concept and mouse from Xerox
<0> Real people make at least $10 an hour
<3> CometBaby, how about you read what the other person's argument is before you start ranting ?
<9> locally, only people i know that get min. wage are teens flipping burgers, and they typically make $7 plus an hr
<1> FreeTrade, stealing is what makes capitalism great!
<6> MrPrimate .. nobody lives on minimum wage. It is not designed for a living wage. And if that is ALL you have .. then you qualify for govt subsidies.
<8> thats a picture of Lupine in his lingerie
<0> So if you really want to talk abotu a minimum wage which makes a difference you better be up around $15 an hour
<6> so what's the problem?
<0> or forget the concept entirely
<1> FreeTrade, see http://philip.greenspun.com/bg/
<3> in Florida the ecomony is MUCH DIFFERENT - lots of people make less than $10/hour -- FreeTrade
<0> foaml, I dont visit websites.
<0> I have my data in my head
<10> Minimum wage is a very American concept... Most of the leftist ***holes who support minimum wage would probably be surprised to learn that many European nannystates either don't have one at all or only recently adopted one as an afterthought.
<6> MrPrimate how about you acknowlege that people who accept personal responsibility don't need big govt before YOU start ranting
<0> MrPrimate, and they dont sell a little dope or ***** on the side ?
<11> Gates didn't steal the GUI or the mouse. Nor did Apple (who used them before Gates). Xerox didn't bother to patent these useless inventions because their corporate heads didn't have a clue as to the great things their researchers were doing. So, this went into the public domaine.
<3> CometBaby, I'm not arguing for big government, I just think you want to government to kiss the *** of corporations that are even as abusive as government itself
<6> MrPrimate that was not an honest statement
<0> Man you east coast people are crazy, Noone would work out here for $less than $10.00
<3> FreeTrade, california has a much different economy
<12> FreeTrade, the cost of living is different
<0> mrPrimate, I grant you that.
<3> FreeTrade, perhaps you should travel outside of your state to see what the rest of the country is like
<0> Katey, Ditto
<13> hello
<0> I cant really speak to florida or the east coast at all..
<0> I have no experience with it.
<9> freetrade, here in south dakota....you can't hire grunts for less than 10
<12> FreeTrade, I think Californians are crazy for paying $600k for an 800 sq ft. rancher. :)
<6> MrPrimate perhaps you should get down off your high horse and stop ***uming that he hasn't traveled
<3> FreeTrade, well you're more honest than CometBaby
<13> does anyone know what kind of governance structure society would have if it were totally just based on Free Choice Theory?
<0> Katey amen to that! :)
<0> As a realtor I could make more money if they were selling for $400k
<10> Wages are pegged to cost of living whether we have a minimum wage or not, as the many areas where the lowest realistic income one can expect to earn far exceeds the minimum wage prove.
<0> Thats my point what is minimum wage ?
<0> Its $5 ?
<3> you could make a labor camp where you could have people survive for a very very low cost
<6> MrPrimate .. be specific. What was I dishonest about.
<0> Noone works for less than $5 on any coast
<0> or inland
<0> Except many my son.
<3> I don't think minimum wage is less than $5 anywhere :]
<0> Whoops
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