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<0> Vietnam had a lot more deaths though -- not sure about amputees and disabled vets, if this is going to be more or less than vietnam or not.
<1> Today... they have a priority rating system... disabled vets are at the top of the list... people who aren't have to wait in a really long line.
<2> SonOfSpam, the va medical system is just another indigent care system unless they were in the service at the time a disease process started and is still present
<2> SonOfSpam, you aren't listening..they booted my husband out of the system completely unless it was an emergency
<2> they refused to see him
<0> I'm just not sure if being in a nasty-*** war prepares you that well for holding down a regular job.
<1> Higher income, non-disabled vets were accepted on a case by case basis until 1999... since then they are now allowed in but as priority 7 or priority 8 patients... bottom of the list.
<0> Yeah that's an interesting anecdote, about your ex-husband not getting medical care. I hear you.
<1> I don't doubt that they booted him out of the system in the past... but today he'd be allowed in as long as their isn't an enrollment hold for budget reasons.
<2> SonOfSpam and that is probably only inpatient care, not outpatient
<3> Today for no reason?
<2> CometBaby, my income
<3> ahhhh
<3> yes it is income based
<1> CometBaby... the VA enrollment rules change quite a bit and fairly often too... eligible vets one year might not be the next, and vice versa.
<3> did your job provide his medical care? That would also be a reason.
<3> he already had medical coverage
<2> CometBaby, no
<0> That is complicated. Yeah my buddie's father is WWII vet, and he has weird confusing rules about getting meds and stuff.
<3> man .. I would get him added quickly
<2> CometBaby, haha that's the husband that's gone...#3...he can die in the streets now for all I care
<2> might already be dead for all I know
<3> hahahaha
<0> Sounds like true love. :)
<1> The VA enrollment rules opened up significantly during the Clinton years... but the budget didn't go up much.
<1> In 8 years the VA budget went up 10 billion bucks under clinton... something Bush did in 2 years.
<3> Today how is your grandson doing? Is he still living with you?
<0> Maybe more people should just be in the military for life? Keep 'em around into their 50's and 60's? I don't know. Maybe that would work better from the vet perspective?
<2> CometBaby, he's with his mother and stepfather. He
<0> Put amputees in the clerical positions?
<3> cool :)
<4> My father is a WWII vet. he has no issues getting meds becasue...he gets no meds
<2> He's not doing well. He visited last night. Had to send him home to his mother today for misbehaving.
<1> ke6i... only so many clerical positions to go around.
<4> I think a Starship Troopers political system would be an excellent idea
<4> the book not the silly movie
<0> Just seems the whole thing, of putting people in a war, and then sending them home to their parents house, that this has some flaws maybe.
<1> ke6i... cheap living for college if they let you stay. :P
<5> pilgrim`: the movie... wow
<1> Noticed some of the vet groups are trying to imply Bush is cutting VA funding with the recent budget because it reduces healthcare funding... leaving out the inconvenient fact that the VA funding is going up in spite of other non-VA healthcare funding going down.
<0> the problem is once something like vet issues gets caught up in Democrat/Republican crap, the chances of doing anything positive go to zero.
<0> Once an issue 'goes political' you can basically blow off any chance of improvement, how I see it.
<6> what about 'trusted computing'
<6> that might be similar
<7> hahaha I can't believe the news media was stupid enough to ask if Cheney would resign over a hunting accident and wether there would be an investigation
<7> HAHAHAHA
<1> There's plenty to bitch about in the VA system... but it seems like some dems go out of their way to paint Bush as some anti-vet monster on VA issues... which is strange since the numbers make him look pretty decent.
<0> Yeah well they are interested in scoring political points rather than fixing anything. And then Bush is interested in pretending like everything is cool. So zero happens.
<5> there is plenty to blame bush about too
<5> :)
<5> I will not say anymore, as I do not want to be shot
<0> pop pop pop
<8> Photos from around where I live
<8> If you like me
<8> http://ixsys.com/daveb/winterwalk/
<8> Thrasher`, Dauphin got a lot more snow then Brandon
<8> Thrasher`, http://ixsys.com/daveb/winterwalk/
<7> actually, Bush doesn't think "everything is cool" anytime he TRIES to fix something like Social Security, the democrats **** on him, but they won't offer any alternatives other than condemning Bush's WANTING to fix the problems that need fixing
<1> Herzen lives on the ice planet of Hoth.
<9> yeah, it all missed us here eh
<4> Juan Carlos is jogging?
<8> SonOfSpam, i'd rather live on the ice planet of Hoth then the sub-tropical planet of transients and drug****ing minorities called "Los Angeles"
<1> Hey now... the majority does it too!
<0> drug****ing minorities? What a load of crap. Whites take as much drugs as anyone else.
<1> ke6i... whites ARE the minority in Los Angeles
<8> tonton?
<4> macoot
<10> G'day
<4> the tonton macoot were the secret police under Papa Doc
<4> coup de etat --government take-over by a two door
<11> Al Gore is more nuts than I thought if Fox news is representing his speech today properly
<12> ...who were like the mafia, KGB, and spanish inquisition married with the Keystone Cops, except not very funny if you were their thuggish target
<12> cout de 'tat == government takeover by cats
<4> plus very good, now to rememebr that you would needs be old as snot so sit down and park your walker by the couch
<12> pilgrim: you would have to join me then, since you remember them too
<4> plus when I was old, snot had yet to be invented ;)
<12> pilgrim: when I was young, the appalachian mountains were mere toddler moguls
<1> bbl
<12> but how do you know it's a car, except that it acts like one and you see gas charges show up on your credit card?
<13> so the veep had a few beer and grazed some one with shotgun fire, big deal. there is more importnant news methinks
<4> oh no. there is NOTHING MORE IMPORTANT then a press that has a issue it can run rabid on foisting agenda right and left
<4> the agenda is always the goal
<13> :/
<12> lgc: it was an extremely dangerous "hunting accident", and the slow, bumbling report to the press reflects Cheney's attitude toward disclosure. I'm not sure I'd blame all this on the White House per se, who doubtless thought Cheney would handle the incident better
<4> I want to see the picture of Bush with Cheney holding a shotgun on a lobbiest. I SAY THE WHITE HOUSE IS HOLDIGN OUT!
<12> I hunted birds as a teenager, and one of the cardinal rules was not to fire below head height, unless you had clear vision of your entire field and length of potential fire. Never swivel and shoot at eye level. No bird is worth that.
<4> plus oh yes, Cheney screwed up. no question. I do find runnign with it as agenda generating is a bit over the top though
<12> pilgrim: not nearly so much would be made of it were Cheney not such an arrogant prick to begin with
<4> and when I see a picture of Cheney with Wayne LaPierre over the article to be over the top. and I do not like Cheney either
<11> lol his being anything is has nothing to do with how the press is acting
<12> pilgrim: This probably doesn't do much for Cheny being one of next year's NRA posterchildren
<11> unless you are in tune with the press on trying to find anything oh god just anything please oh please oh please anything to find bad about this admin
<4> plus I do not like press deciding the talkign points. but thats how it works
<4> and
<14> http://www.krysstal.com/democracy_whyusa.html
<12> pilgrim: well, but the press do. It's their job, even though much of the time they do a miserable job, from the standpoint of all points in the spectrum, right, left, and middle.
<4> this admin seemed a breath of fresh air after CLinton on that one issue
<11> the press's actions on this for me are just like about every liberals actions for the last 6 years
<11> just more actions that dictate almost total distrust in both
<4> plus the: interview A on "issue" then find B who disagrees. this is "balance" so if you find someone talkign abotu putting out a fire, look up a nutcase who says we should drown it in gasoline to be
<4> "fair"
<12> what "breath of fresh air"? They're a bunch of lying scumbags, just of a different type than Clinton'S crew
<4> stupid
<4> of course they are
<4> all politicasn, by nature of what they do and where they are...are scumbags...or lawyers... which is the same thing
<15> true, but did campaign finance reform insure it.
<14> what do u ppl say about this: http://www.krysstal.com/democracy_whyusa03.html
<16> "The CIA?s top counter-terrorism official was fired last week because he opposed detaining Al-Qaeda suspects in secret prisons abroad, sending them to other countries for interrogation and using forms of torture such as ?water boarding?" http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-2036182,00.html
<8> ebbtepid, Good for the U.S.
<8> Nothing wrong with using its Veto power to protect its own interests
<8> thats what any responsible nation would do
<17> pattern: yea.. water boarding is really torture.. so is having a good looking woman bring you your dinner wearing a bikini.. such horrors that even McCain never had to endure in the Hanoi Hotel
<17> The deathmarch of batan? bah, childs play compared to having to deal with the insult of a picture of mohammed
<16> fascist
<8> Smuggling tunnel details come to light
<8> It's this p***ageway that federal authorities said was the exit point for drug smugglers who built a m***ive underground tunnel to bring tons of marijuana into the United States from Tijuana.
<8> Agents with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement discovered the tunnel last week. It runs 2,400 feet, or the length of about eight football fields, and is equipped with lighting, ventilation and groundwater drainage.
<16> and i'm sure they had lots of "Rape the Gringo Women" posters too
<18> I like Drudge.
<17> (Washington, D.C.) On February 1, congressional Democrats, led by Rep. Obey of Wisconsin, introduced a bill, H.R. 4694, that would end viable, third-party competition in races for the U.S. House of Representatives.
<18> didn't seem too happy that the WH was not forthcoming with the Chehey incident.
<17> The ambiguously-written bill provides funds for candidates of the "two major parties" but essentially scuttles any campaign efforts of third-party or independent candidates.
<18> cheney
<17> why should they? it was a private event, with private individuals..
<18> the dude shot someone.
<19> Lupine, good, we can not allow democracy to take hold in America!
<17> The catch under the proposed legislation is that third-party or independent candidates cannot pay petitioners to collect any signatures, making it impossible to fund their campaigns.
<19> Lupine, we need to keep the poor in their place lest they revolt
<18> it's not a "private" affair when someone shoots someone.
<20> I asked an illegal friend of mine if he had heard of MS13, He has not. I warned him to be careful if he met any.
<19> Lupine, I vote for the Republicans because plutocracy is a good thing
<17> yankee: sure it is, just as it is a private affair of two people have an auto accident.
<18> but it's not.
<20> The violence on the border has nothing to do with job seeking. Its all about the trade in illicit goods which could be dealt with several ways.
<19> Lupine, Government exists to enrich the rich on the backs of the poor. Why won't Liberals understand this?
<18> if it were Gore who shot someone, you'd be all over the story if he tried to keep it under wraps.
<20> I have not seen too much news about M13 around my area. They probably hang out in East LA.
<17> yankee: if they commited crimes to keep it under wraps, sure. but that is not a comparable analogy
<20> Gore has no buisness giving national speeches, because he has no authority.
<20> he has a right to give speeches on his opinion.
<18> if the other guy died, would Cheney be compared to Kennedy?
<20> But he doesnt have a right to speak to foreign nationals about what the USA is doing according to his opinion, when in his case its all opinion because he is not in the loop.
<19> Lupine, where do the workers get off thinking that they deserve the fruits of their labor... don't they understand that the purpose of civilization is to enrich the elite?
<20> I think its possible in the future we will see the expansion of social programs. Unless the free market can find a way to end the disparity between wages. Which to my displeasure is real.
<17> yankee: until you can show that the WH illegally attempted to silence the media.. you have no arguement. There is no requirement that the WH publish the private actions of everyone in teh WH all the time.
<20> A working guy today wont be able to buy a house.. Not unless the cost of construction goes way up and wages go way up to where home contractors would charge about $100.00 an hour for all labor.
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