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<0> just because people are having the government do the stealing for them doesnt make it any less wrong
<1> hey 426 and i agree on something
<2> i personally have always wondered why welfare recipients aren't having their wages garnished for the help they recieve when their luck changes for the better
<3> US 1st quarter GDP revised upwards to 6% 1st quarter (Amazing) and Trade deficit narrowed 5.6% Exports see huge boost' Talk about these and other issues!
<4> MikeyD: The US this year budget 2006 has spent $600 BILLION on welfare and poverty entitlements. More than the Iraq War, more than the US military budget, more than the social security surplus, more than the paymant made on the national debt interest. In total spending, US is by far the biggest socialist country on Earth
<0> Red_Barch: im aware
<0> on top of that, it still constitutues an unnecessary growth of government
<1> and they cant afford a 2billon dollar wall. They right there could cut cost of like 50 billion in illegal welfare
<4> and people wonder why we have an 8.5 trillion $ deficit
<1> they=that
<5> there's bout to be more on welfare lol **** keeps going up people will be on the streets
<0> fine by me
<0> those who can, do
<4> Can you explain to me why I must pay an extra $1000 a year so 50 million people who lived sub-mediocre lives can be ensured the best most expensive drug coverage possible until they die?
<0> those who cant, teach or something
<1> more people on welfare espcially when all the illegals are flooding from 3rd world countries
<0> you know what would be a good idea
<2> i also think that those who get welfare (able bodied) should be made to perform some sort of community service, like washing jocks for the military
<0> if the illegals that are currently here want citizenship, let them earn it with a 4 year stint in the military
<6> `426-Hemi, you said: i personally have always wondered why welfare recipients aren't having their wages garnished for the help they recieve when their luck changes for the better. They do. This is why, when they get the jobs most of them can get, they have to go back on welfare. They lose all child care and health subsidies and minimum wage won't buy those.
<2> instead of employing the likes of private companies
<4> `426-Hemi: Thatd be racist
<1> some community service maybe but not tht
<6> `426-Hemi, you'd make a good Mormon. :)
<2> ???
<4> `426-Hemi: As most people claiming welfare are minorities
<2> how is that racist?
<2> wrooooooooooooooooong
<0> that way they can get the work skills and english training they need, while proving that they have the desire to be a part of the national conscious
<1> racist
<2> thats a fallacy
<4> Is it now? Shall we google it?
<6> I think the case is that most people on welfare are single mothers, don't know about their race.
<4> "According to an analysis of these numbers by HUD, the minority homeownership rate was 26.8 percentage points below the rate for white households in 1994. The black homeownership rate was 27.5 percentage points below the white rate, and the Hispanic rate was 28.8 percentage points below the rate of whites in 1994"
<0> i dont care
<1> yeah i say single mothers i know a couple who are on welfare
<4> HUD = Section 8. So just from HUD's site alone, they sure make it sound like whites get the least vouchers
<0> welfare in itself translates directly into the government saying to the individual "hey, dont worry about the decisions you make, if you **** up, well steal from other people on your behalf and be your saftey net so you really dont ever have to worry about making good decisions"
<4> http://www.hud.gov/news/releasedocs/barriers.cfm
<2> Red, where does that talk about racial make up of welfare recips?
<2> no HUD doesn't not equate to Section 8 in all cases
<4> sure it does, who cuts the checks?
<4> HUD
<1> build a wall
<6> MikeyD, you're sitting here with a background that offered you advantages of a decent education, knowledge of how to invest, parents who gave you a work ethic and a normal IQ berating people who have had none of these. You might want to take a second look through more comp***ionate eyes.
<2> in the year 2001, there were the lowest number of welfare recipients in the USA since 1969
<6> `426-Hemi, that's because welfare has been tightened thanks to the cost of the occupation of Iraq. The need is as great, it's simply not reaching as many people.
<2> 1969 - 6,706,000 202,677,000 3.3% June 2000 - 5,780,543 275,130,000 2.1%
<6> wait
<6> never mind. READ, tzip, READ.
<2> tzip uhhh, we weren't in Iraq in 2000=)
<6> I just re-read the year you were talking about, `426-Hemi, yes.
<2> in 1994 there were 14 million
<6> I just know welfare funds are down, Bush cut them, along with housing and every other social program there is out there.
<4> `426-Hemi: I think our definition of welfare might be incompatible. It sounds like you are quoting people actually recieving welfare checks. Whereas going down to the social security office to apply for benefits at any age, you are usually elibible for a wide array of free services
<2> i can't find any racial component
<4> `426-Hemi: Lets put it this way. The Mexican Consulate in Forth Worth Texas have training cl***es for illegals where they are taught how to apply for social security benefits while getting a card, and show them how to manipulate the system to get everything from baby formula, to day care, to WIC for diapers etc
<4> `426-Hemi: You familiar with the Matricula Consular Mexican ID card?
<4> it's a very nasty peice of plastic
<4> in several US states, someone can actually use it to register to vote!
<4> approx. 2 million illegals currently are registered to vote
<3> US 1st quarter GDP revised upwards to 6% 1st quarter (Amazing) and Trade deficit narrowed 5.6% Exports see huge boost' Talk about these and other issues!
<4> Good Ol' Nancy Pelosi for example, she worked hard to make it a valid form of California ID!
<2> ohh who cares
<6> Is FreeTrade a bot?
<2> boo hoo hoooo mexicans get to vote!
<4> right now he appears to be
<2> no, he hooked up a spammer
<4> `426-Hemi: You dont have a problem with non US citizens being able to vote in US elections?
<4> seriously?
<2> anyway, i know for a fact that more whitey's get welfare than minorities on a percentage
<2> which leads me to stand on what i said
<2> i also think that those who get welfare (able bodied) should be made to perform some sort of community service, like washing jocks for the military
<1> racist
<2> complain that all these people are on welfare, do the logical thing and make them work for it for a limited time, but somehow thats wrong because it "might" be racist
<4> 1 in every 6 Texans (14%) is an illegal immigrant, one in every 3 texans gets some sort of government ***istance. Think any of that overlaps?
<7> racist
<2> somehow i HIGHLY doubt those statistics
<4> really? Off to the Google cave!
<2> hey its on the internet so its GOTTA be true!
<8> how is "government ***istance" being defined?
<8> public schools?
<9> you quote it every minute 426
<9> with your cut and pastes, you live by it.
<7> lol
<2> the people who make those stats have absolutely NO bias , naaahhh, not at all
<9> what stats Red? :)
<8> 30% of Texans on public ***istance seems extremely high
<2> i have heard 14 million illegals are in the USA, that was the high number, somehow I highly DOUBT that all 14 million live in Texas
<8> I've heard 11-12 million
<8> somehow the figure keeps creeping up the more it's discussed though. :)
<10> it's hard to actually imagine 1 million, let alone 11-12
<11> "public ***istance" could include things like student loans
<10> meanwhile, http://www.inthenet.net/~phoneman2/Pictures/Harry%20Nilsson%20-%20Put%20The%20Lime%20In%20The%20Coconut.mp3
<8> unfortunately, the very nature of this issue makes it tough to adhere to specific facts
<9> no, public ***istance means welfare
<8> the facts aren't really known
<2> The figures show that between October 1996 and January 2000, the number of illegal immigrants grew from about 5.8 million to about 7 million, an increase of more than 300,000 annually.
<9> education loans means, education loans.
<8> hans--, for most people, sure
<9> public ***istance
<9> n.
<9> Aid, such as money or food, given to homeless and other financially needy people, the aged, or the inhabitants of a disaster-stricken area; relief.
<4> http://www.knoxstudio.com/shns/story.cfm?pk=LATINOS-TEXAS-10-12-05&cat=AN
<2> The population of Texas is 22,490,022
<8> hans--, but if someone wants to get into little semantic games, I supposed they could consider recieving any sort of taxpayer supported service or program to be "public ***istance"
<9> semantic games, in here. Gasp! No way.
<4> damn, thats not the one, one more min, getting lotta false hits
<12> :)
<9> Texas has a very high crime rate
<9> despite it's "tough on crime" attitude
<9> so it wouldn't shock me they have a higher than normal welfare rate.
<9> crime and welfare go with economic distressed areas.
<9> economically
<2> that would be 3 million illegal migrants in texas
<2> hahahhahah
<2> NO freakin way
<4> bingo
<4> http://www.team4news.com/Global/story.asp?S=3478166
<4> "The study by the Pew Hispanic Center says the proportion of illegal immigrants in Texas increased from eleven percent in 1990 to 14 percent in 2002-2004."
<4> you do the math
<2> Red....
<4> 22.5 mil, times .14
<2> first you have to tell me how many illegals are in texas
<3> US 1st quarter GDP revised upwards to 6% 1st quarter (Amazing) and Trade deficit narrowed 5.6% Exports see huge boost' Talk about these and other issues!
<2> heh
<10> a billion!
<10> FT is an halibut
<2> 14% does not give me the number of illegals
<4> 1.4 it says
<4> down lower
<2> 1 in 6 texans being illegal is 3 million illegal aliens
<2> adn well quite frankly thats bull****
<8> is FT on some sort of automatic pilot?
<9> OoOO a big one gonna shoot shortly
<9> yah, a timed message Katey
<9> lol good numbers to counter Bushs' bad poll figures I suppose.
<10> AN 'alibut
<4> `426-Hemi: http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-17,GGLD:en&q=Pew+Hispanic+Center+texas+illegal+proportion
<4> 42,000 hits, many from big newspapers, and not a one has a correction on amounts
<4> so like I said before, 14%
<8> does that mean the proportion of immigrants that are illegal?
<4> 1 in 3 texas drivers doesn't have auto insurance
<8> Or that 14% of TX residents are illegal aliens?
<4> no, the proportion of texans that are illegal
<2> 14% of the population is NOT Illegal
<4> "The Pew Hispanic Center prepared the study for the Independent Task Force on Immigration and America's Future, a bipartisan panel of congressmen; leaders from key business, labor and immigrant groups; and public policy and immigration experts"
<2> it said illegal immigration ROSE to 14%
<4> "The study used data from the March 2004 Current Population Survey, conducted by the Census Bureau and the Bureau of Labor Statistics"
<2> er rose 14%
<2> hahah
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