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<0> heh
<1> bostonians are so darned rude - more so than NYC
<2> Peace lol
<0> well..I am just gonna shut him him up.....
<3> Rebec: yeah, but New York is so huge, you can still live in it and live far from anything, boston is tiny
<3> it's an unfair com[parison
<0> instructo.....
<2> may you said Boston was cheaper that was the only thing I was answering
<4> Boston is a poor man's city where people go to dump their trash
<3> it'd be like comparing new york to san francisco
<2> Nohman and be over taxed etc
<0> you need to learn the difference between constructive dialogue and trolling/flamebaiting
<4> yeah
<5> the cities belong to the people who own them, or should
<5> they should organize them and administer them any way THEY like
<5> the idea of local government is a good one
<1> except in the case of new orleans
<1> but then, i guess its the "idea" thats good
<5> the other levels of government should only step in when the local level is criminally corrupt
<4> Yeah, like communism was a great idea
<0> what is needed is first divest the fed of its usurped powers and return them to the states
<1> oc: oh yes, like in new orleans (criminally corrupt)
<0> then at state level transfer what power you can to local level
<5> Peace: perhaps ... there is some evidence of that
<6> lol. instructo is also in #bodybuilding
<7> local government is there so we can look at sculduggery closely. That way we can recognize it on the National level
<1> oc: why do you always need evidence.....why cant you just be fantastical adn inflammatory like me
<1> just say something like
<0> this puts potential culpable parties close at hand
<5> hiya pilgrim
<4> New Orleans is so damn corrupt, I don't even want my money going back into rebuilding that city
<7> most local governments are controlled by developers
<1> bow up the middle east
<1> or....new orleans is corrupt
<7> hola OcDoc
<1> ya you go nohman - like nohman :)
<6> considering the /msgs he's sending me I think he might also frequent #roid_rage
<1> lol
<5> Peace: well, that may be fun but it's not a good way to organize society
<7> does anyone rememebr a fire along the east river in Jersey a month or so back? took out a bunch of warehouses
<5> pilgrim: what's the alternative?
<0> wait..I am supposed to be the bow ;)
<1> oh oc
<0> :)
<4> What's the point of a fire door if they're always locked?
<7> 1 of those warehouses was about to be declared historical meaning nothing could be done in the way of development. the others were wrapped in red tape for a proposed condo development
<0> Nohman ...revenue
<7> one fire...instant beuracracy cleaner
<7> happens all the time
<0> pilgrim..do the math
<0> one arsonist...removes problem
<4> It gets an entire bunch of people killed
<5> an historical warehouse? guffaw
<0> OcDoc..not really
<7> OcDoc there is no alternative, but never fool yourself that it is anythign BUT corrupt
<4> An historical whore house
<0> Boston has some of those
<7> Boston it is institutionalized
<8> aweee.... i had a wayward 1000kg bomb take out the Eifel Tower.. a pity
<5> pilgrim: the local government shouldn't be allowed to tell you what you can do with your private property
<7> OcDoc but it does
<5> pilgrim: if they didn't have that power, there wouldn't be much corruption
<9> US 1st quarter GDP revised upwards to 6% 1st quarter (Amazing) and Trade deficit narrowed 5.6% Exports see huge boost' Talk about these and other issues!
<7> if a care dealership wants 3 more blocks for a parking lot and you own a house there...better start packing
<7> car
<4> I want free money!
<5> pilgrim: that's corruption
<0> OcDoc...in the case of some sorts of business, they should have the right
<7> he has the Planing Board, council, mayor, and the eco watchdog pencil pushers in his back pocket
<5> Cry: who? what?
<0> unless you want a toples bar next to yoru house
<7> OcDoc thats reality
<7> or realty...as the case may be ;)
<0> Local zoning ordnances tell businesses like that where they can exist
<5> Cry: deed restrictions take care of that or I won't live there in the first place
<7> yeah right
<6> the eco watchdog pencil pushers are usually anti-development
<0> in Vegas...tata bars and the equiv are on Industrial Avenue
<7> they tell you what you can or cannot do with YOUR proptery, but gain a little loot and influence and...
<5> pilgrim: I won't buy a home where there aren't deed restrictions for a reasonable distance around me
<8> cry: Orlando needs some good strip joints
<0> same for porno website companies
<7> I havge watched it in 2 towns in 2 states now... its all the same
<0> Lupine..Orlando prob has them zone restricted
<8> cry: it's disney actually
<0> heh perfect place
<0> next to DisneyWorld
<5> proper deed restrictions are all it takes to control residential neighborhoods
<7> OcDoc like here where 2 doors down there is a "townhouse" (apartment building) while this is zoned single family. Oh did I mentiont he developer is son of a ex mayor, golf budy with govonor and has dirt on all the politicos?
<8> what could be more family oriented than having your face slapped around by some strippers tits?
<7> its the way it works
<5> pilgrim: who are you trying to convince? I already agreed that that was corruption
<8> ocdoc: i've seen deed restrictions go way of the dodo
<0> pilgrim...then you form a local ***ociation and hammer down
<10> wow, golf buddy with the governor
<5> Lupine: they shouldn't ... that TOO is corruption
<7> OcDoc and it is how it happens in all places
<0> Englewood has a few apartment complexes...but all grandfathered in
<0> eventually they will be forced out :)
<5> pilgrim: just because it IS happening doesn't mean it should be allowed to happen
<7> Cry you do, you end up in a tragic house fire,
<7> or the like
<7> that also happens
<5> pilgrim: not if you're armed and have proper neighborhood security
<0> pilgrim...how many apartments are in yer neighborhood?
<7> OcDoc I prefer the Mafia. One Don to please and thats it
<8> OcDoc: for example, they got around deed restrictions in parts of south florida by creating some "developement and management district".. a quasi legal entity.. who had the power to change deed restrictions.
<5> pilgrim: I don't prefer that
<3> what is the average age of people killed in automobile accidents?
<4> Don Vito Corelone
<0> Lupine...they tried that **** here....lolol
<5> Lupine: over my dead body
<0> it did not wash
<7> Cry only 1 and it was built where a fire spontaniously destroyed the other building...with no electric no gas no nada to it...in a driving rain storm that nite.
<7> it just...happened
<0> they have a trailer park right around corner from where I live....
<0> 55+ living though
<8> they got the judge who "oversees" the everglades restoration to mandate it
<0> their days are numbered...
<8> CA: i must say this, i've seen some retired-trailor parks.. and they seem as well kept as nice homes
<0> the park is on 1.1 acres of prime real estate
<7> I would rather support a patron` or Don..a Leige Lord, then a bunch of waring breuracrats
<0> Lupine,..these are...
<5> rising property values frequently eliminate trailer parks
<10> hah
<0> but rising realestate prices will force them out
<10> go ask the mafia for a loan, then
<7> Cry that too happens
<0> there are also some apartment complexes...they will be forced out too
<5> pilgrim: Americans need more cojones
<4> Europeans need them more
<5> pilgrim: the problem is the people who have them are scattered thinly among wimps
<0> pilgrim..do these apartments harbor criminal types?
<4> Europeans have been castrated ever since the end of WWII
<0> arund where you are?
<7> ocDoc I have a son. when he moves out and goes elsewhere; I no longer have somethign to protect. THEN I can fight
<7> Cry not yet. but that was not the point. Property value changes when multi family moves in
<5> pilgrim: you wouldn't need to all by yourself if Americans still valued freedom and property rights
<0> is prob gonna be the catalyst that flushes the rental housing out of my area
<5> pilgrim: when that goes into decline, NOTHING works any more
<5> you can hunker down or die fighting the good fight
<7> OcDoc please fill out the apropriate Freedom Form, you will find it right next to your required ID
<7> stay tuend for the RFID next week
<0> pilgrim...simetmes it does...
<5> pilgrim: currently I'm hunkering down ... tomorrow, who knows?
<7> exactly
<0> othertimes you can get the zoning voided...
<0> if enough people bitch
<11> nobody gives a sit that they might be able to spider web our pot connection?
<7> I am teaching my kid how to get by...when the man asks, determine his right to know and in 9 cases out of 10...lie
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