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Comments:
<0> how worthless
<1> the Saatchi Collection, exhibition caused a great deal of controversy for
<1> using elephant dung and pornographic images in a picture of the Virgin Mary. ...
<0> but then, there was an image of christ done in elephant dung
<0> which substance apparently has some spiritual aspect as regarded by, I think, certain african tribes
<2> it isn't sad that someone does these things ...
<3> somehow that just seems outside of my definition of art
<0> heck, Hindu monks use cow dung as a 'holy' substance
<2> its sad that a gallery would claim them as art and put them up
<2> its such with any product ... if there is a market for it, no matter what it is, someone will make/draw/paint it
<4> philomath, thats what makes usa great
<2> you're missing the point, i think
<5> in France a court banned this ad because it would offend catholics http://fearofclowns.com/gfx/ls_ad_large.jpg
<5> **** that, in america we give the court the finger and show the picture anyway
<0> haha
<6> ;p
<1> Willem Dafoe could not see for three days because he got too many eye drops to dilate the pupils of his eyes in bright sunlight to achieve a superhuman effect.
<1> The Jews have American accents while the Romans have British accents.
<1> The voice of Satan was provided by the late Leo Marks, who wrote the screenplay for the Michael Powell cl***ic Peeping Tom (1960). Martin Scorsese has acknowledged this film to be a major influence on his work.
<5> give the finger for freedom!
<6> lol
<1> That is funny but those are the most prominent christian controversies over the last couple decades in art and cinema
<6> bob can you Photoshop that
<5> photoshop what
<6> a puple-stained middle finger, "Gve the Finger for Freedom"
<6> like Iraqi voters
<1> the last temptation of chirst I think implies both homoeroticism or ***ual desire for Mary Magdellon or both.. I dont know i only read the reviews.
<5> no
<1> I have not seen the movie.
<1> I am am atheist, I did not/not see it for religious reasons.
<0> me neither, and no plan to
<0> but I do wanna see Final Destination 3
<1> Timur what is that ?
<0> but my gf wants me to pick her up and we're expecting a big fat snow accumulation
<0> what to do.
<0> a horror movie, basically
<1> FD3 ?
<0> yeah
<1> cool, I love those, my daughter hates them
<1> my son likes them
<0> :)
<1> My wife likes them
<0> just came out yesterday
<0> brb
<1> Thats funny in a movie where the jews have american accents and the romans British accents, hahahahaha
<1> When I saw that I thought it was hillarious.
<6> hehe
<1> This is supposed to be a film 32 AD or so ;)
<4> FreeTrade, what movie was that?
<1> The last temptation of christ.
<1> A controversial movie
<4> FreeTrade, oh, i didnt see it, i was put off knowing it was full of violence
<1> Oh my god, its 2:OO
<1> I have to go somewhere.
<1> My son and I love violence. But it has to have some kind of moral purpose (Good vs evil) Kill bIll was just plain stupid.
<4> violence has its place in movies, but violence for violence sake is sick, imo
<1> People think I am awful because since age 10 my son and I often watched violent movies, we are both extremely peiceful and without violent tempers, which is ironic. But My son learned how movies were made from age 5-9 he could tell you how movies were made, what a blue screen and green screen is, so he always clearly could dilineate reality from fiction. He was only allowed to watch education programs till about age 10
<1> *** I think is much worse for 2 reasons, A) kids dont want to see it it embarresses them and parents ;) And B) violence is from birth, ***uality kicks in at about age 11 or 12 usually and they dont comprehend it at all before that age.
<5> freetrade lets his kids watch hellraiser movies
<1> BTW, I have never hit or spanked my children or inflicted pain on them
<7> my parents were always cool with the ***, but not the violence
<1> I have also never yelled at my children.. Except now that they are teens I soemtimes have to yell over the CD or the Video Games
<1> hehe
<1> bob, Sure I do
<7> When I was 14 they were fine with rated R as long as it was for nudity
<1> Nudity is not ***.
<1> *** is arousal
<7> is it?
<7> because as a 14 year old male linoleum aroused me
<1> Nudity is just without clothes, if it isnt arousing you it isnt really ***.
<7> everything arouses 14 year olds
<1> Well that may be.
<6> you were aroused by male linoleum ?
<4> notice that humans are the only species that is affected with ***ual problems
<6> weird
<7> don't you have to go blow up an abortion clinic or something?
<6> aha Nomex is a child molestor
<1> Nudity doesnt bother me for my children to view, its the context of the nudity
<7> us_male: those children were asking for it
<1> I think the thing which bothers me the worst is when they mimic oral *** then I usually hit the fast forward or something.
<6> uh huh
<7> not a cunning linguist?
<1> My children dont like it, But guess what? I dont like it either..
<6> they should just show it, or else leave it out
<8> er
<9> My 9 year old daughter remarked, upon seeing two people kissing on TV, "Whoa! They're swapping DNA!"
<8> What's wrong wit hit, FreeTrade?
<9> lol
<8> THey're just mocking it.
<8> haha
<5> ahahahahahaha http://fearofclowns.com/gfx/ls_breakfast.jpg
<6> I don't know why you can show a BJ without showing the BJ -- just leave it out if you want a wide auience
<1> *** as portrayed in Hamlet by well forget his name was very tasteful. It was distant from the viewer yet obvious they were both nude with a sheet covering their genitals and nipples... THis type of representation of love making is much more effective than just the gross act displayd on the camera.
<7> Katey-: that birds and the bees talk is gonna be hell when I have to give it isn't it?
<7> :>
<5> I'd like to see europe flip out over that image
<9> Nomex, heh
<1> The Hamelet i am speaking of is by B is the letter of his last name
<1> Braugnan ?
<5> kenneth branagh?
<9> Nomex, my suggestion would be, don't try to boil it all down to just a single "talk"
<7> |bob: meh, I preferred the one with Bill and Ted
<4> |bob, what image is that?
<5> http://fearofclowns.com/gfx/ls_breakfast.jpg
<1> I cant spell it, its the best Hamlet i have ever seen and i have seen 3 versions.
<10> Kenneth Branagh is great.
<10> FreeTrade: That's my favorite version of Hamlet as well.
<1> Tariq, Yep
<1> His was art..
<1> Very well done.
<9> Branagh's movies seemed to turn to **** after he split with Emma Thompson
<9> Mid-life crisis maybe
<1> I told my kids about the birds and the bees in the context of love and ***ual intercourse, the risks of *** and advantages to waiting..
<9> The earlier ones were really good
<1> I didnt get into oral *** or too specific
<10> Hamlet, Othello, and Henry V were superb.
<1> THis year the high school wants to teach my children gender, transgender, homo***ual, Bi ***ual, Tri ***ual you name it, they sent me a letter saying its a requirement of graduation at Berkeley high but that its a state law they musthave the consent of the parent.
<9> Any of you see "Dead Again"?
<9> That was fun little move
<9> movie*
<1> My daughter asked me to excuse her from all those topics.
<9> And early Brannagh flick
<9> Thompson is in that one as well
<1> She doesnt want to here the schools idea of what is truth on the topics.
<9> Probably the first movie she's in that was released in the US
<1> She can make up her own mind I guess she figures.
<6> that stuff is not realy relative to education
<1> She doesnt need the school telling her what to think about any of these issues.
<1> US, its brainwashing.
<1> Why ?
<6> They should teach more behavioral things, and less debatable "cultural" things
<1> Facts sorrounding these issues are almost non existant.
<10> Hrm. My high school doesn't do those things.
<1> children shall not play here!
<10> But I am in Georgia
<6> like spend more time teaching kids to behave in cl*** and learn
<11> Dumb*** school. A requirement
<1> If I had to teach it I could only offer my position which is one of tolerance, but not advocacy, and I would have to state its an opinion and other people have to make up thier own minds.
<6> and less time on one person's idea of "cultural sensitivity"
<9> My highschool *** ed cl*** spent a great deal of time on relationships, self esteem issues, etc
<6> that's the parent's job imo
<9> Of course it also got into the mechanics of *** and contraception, etc
<11> I don't even think we had *** ed cl***ed
<7> Mine spent a great deal of time on the mechanics of it
<10> In fact, my high school doesn't have a ***-ed cl***.
<9> But I think that the other topics were really helpful for teenagers
<1> By 12th grade lets see if my daughter who is an A student is not graduated because she didnt take a day to learn about transgender
<11> I certainly wasn't aware of them
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