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<0> I bet you will do better out of Grad school?
<1> cryhavoc: oh yeah - no way in hell I'm going back to that
<0> Brak55...if people want to better theselves...they can...
<0> if they don't....**** them
<2> i am not arguin the US is heading for Mnational healthcare, but I can't seem to understand why people think its better.
<1> all of a sudden, 10hrs a day, 7 days a week doesn't seem so bad at grad school. nothing else I'd rather do
<3> Darth: Probably not, but that wasn't my purpose. I believe in healthcare of some sort being affordable to all. It is not now.
<0> Swigert.....much better leverage
<0> Brak55..I sure as hell don't...because **** me if I am going to be takxed for that
<2> Brak55 so if we make national healthcare affordable to all, you'd be happy
<1> cryhavoc: oh yeah
<0> **** that
<2> Brak55 even tho people would have to PAY for it?
<0> government steals too much of my money as it goes
<2> wait
<2> i said that wrong
<3> Cry: Well **** me if I'm going to be taxed for things like the war in Iraq, but I am. I guess we all have to live with things we don't like.
<1> cryhavoc: next year I could be in Alabama at a PhD program - thats enough of a lure
<0> DarthBurg...in liberaland Universal Health Care is Free
<4> Brak55 great point
<2> if we made healthcare really cost affordable, would that address your desires Brak55?
<5> Only the little people pay taxes.
<2> lol
<0> Darth...you get that for what you pay
<2> tell that to my checking account
<5> :)
<0> tell that to mine
<6> Brak55 so estimate how much of your taxes goto the military, make that amount $ contribution to a local charity that benefits your community, and deduct it from your taxes
<0> bud...haha
<3> Darth: Of course if it was affordable for all that would be fine.
<2> I'd pay more taxes if the US went to war more, and worried less about taking care of ****ups
<0> Brak55...and the way you want it...the care level would be ****
<7> Darth: Ha.
<0> DarthBurg...only enough government to govern
<2> Brak55 so, when National Healthcare does not make healthcare affordable to all, will you be honest about it?
<0> Darth...are you kidding???!!!!
<3> Cry: So, in your world, those that can afford it should get GREAT healthcare and eveyrone else should die.
<0> They will want more money to make it affordable
<0> no Brak55...in my ****ing world...you better yourself...or shut the **** up
<2> well, if you need a heart operation, you might have to give up that new XBox
<7> Brakk: Its not your money to redistribute. Plain and simple.
<7> End of subject.
<0> lol Darth....and would you survie Heart OP?
<0> hear hear philo
<3> Darth: That's a stupid analogy. You know damn well we're not talking xbox vs heart operation, we're talking food and shelter vs. a heart operation.
<0> I will be paying on my student loan for another 20 years
<2> See, I pay for my own insurance, and I pay for my own medical bills, I also figure I am not alone. if someone else can not afford healthcare they desperately need, SHOULD the government step in and offer it? absolutely ****ing NOT.
<0> Brak55..I still say the same thing
<2> Brak55 in a few very minor cases, maybe
<1> darth: you can afford and insurance and pay your bills? you're rich!
<0> Darth...I agree
<2> Swigert according to the IRS i am
<3> Darth: So, if you can't afford it, you should die. I've known that's how the right feels for a long time.
<2> the ****ers.
<0> Swigert...bull****
<0> Darth...you own a business??
<2> if I can't afford it, i will seek alternatives. taxing some other productive member of society is not one of them
<1> cryhavoc: anyone who is not dependent on the government is rich - pure and simple
<0> according to IRA I am also rich.....
<3> The right would rather spend money on crap rebuilding Iraq then helping there own. Stupid ****ers.
<0> Swigert...cl***ic Liberaland
<2> yers yes, I am an evil capitalist.
<0> the IRS
<2> I do not see how going broke over runny noses is helping people.
<0> I own vacant land
<0> Darth...eheh
<2> Brak55 should we tax people to pay for doctors visits for runny noses?
<0> I am a evil Libertarian Hitler
<1> I have a $3000 CD
<0> Darth...yes
<7> Brak: People can help themselves in the U.S. There is no excuse to not being successful in the U.S. Its the best country in the world for it ... why do you think we have an immigration problem?
<0> Liberals love any tax
<3> Darth: Should we tax people to send to every other country in the world? We do now.
<0> philo...you don't say!!!!!
<8> Cry .. you are bush?
<2> its a trick ****ing question, you do not need to go to the doctor for a runny nose.
<8> lol
<0> issat why that guy who barely speaks English owns 3 restaurants??
<1> did Bo and Luke ever gas up the General Lee?
<0> Swigert...I never saw them do that
<2> Brak55 hey, dude, national foreign policy IS a pervure of the FED, that IS something they should be doing, and Iraq should have been cleaned up ten years ago.
<2> so give the antio war **** a rest will ya?
<0> I think Boss Hogg paid for their gas so they could wreck police cars
<2> apples to oranges
<1> cryhavoc: did Dr. McCoy ever save anyone? It seemed his only role was that of pronouncer of death.
<0> Swigert...I think he saved Spock once
<0> but yeah usually he declares the nebbishes dead
<1> anyone other than a major character?
<0> Swigert...call De Forrewst kelley's 900 Line
<0> hrmmm
<2> see, i think that if you need Major Surgery, or Major long term healthcare, i think the hospitals should have payment plans, and finacing available. Health Banks, Chruches, Donation ran Hospitals, ANYTHING as long as it does not involve the FED.
<0> bottom line though Brak...why in **** should I be taxed to reward someone elses irresponsibility?
<2> but for some reason, thats an extreme position
<0> My being responsible was penalized
<1> cryhavoc: which has the better chance of survival: a Stormtrooper fighting a Jedi or a redshirt following Kirk down to a planet surface?
<2> Brak55 ever heard of St Jude's?
<3> Cry: That's the problem with your reasoning. You automatically ***ume irresponsibility.
<2> how about the shriners?
<0> StormTrooper
<3> Darth: Sure.
<0> Brak55...I have seen so much of it...and lived in so much of it
<2> there are options to healthcare and they do NOT have to be handed down by the fed.
<1> c'mon - if a Stormtrooper, or any number of stormtroopers, fought just one Jedi, they might as well throw their guns at him.
<0> I still want kids..but I know full ****ing well when i was younger i could not afford them...
<0> so I have no kids
<3> Cry: Me, too and I have seen enough to realize it is NOT always irresponsibility.
<1> I am so glad I didnt marry young
<0> gal that lived above me 27 with FOUR kids...unwed mom
<2> Brak55 life isn't fair, nor can legislation make it so
<1> yikes
<1> I am happy with my life - I get to do the things I like
<0> bull****ing **** if i am going to pay so SHE can have Uni Health Care
<0> bull****ing ****
<0> that is penalizing me
<3> Cry: WEll, you better get over it, because it's coming.
<2> for being a producer
<0> no...for NOT producing kids
<0> and for hitting the ****ing bboks...
<0> and getting an education
<0> in Braks world...thats a bad thing
<2> Brak55 and when it does not cure the problems you speak of, will you be honest about it, or will we just have to pay more into it?
<0> I paid my ****ing dues as far as I am concerned
<0> Darth...take a guess
<2> National Healthcare will make social security look like a walk in the park
<3> Cry: Again, things aren't always as simple as "If you had gotten an education..."
<1> cryhavoc: where's your comp***ion for the 'needy'?
<0> The fairTax if enacted..would solve the Social security crisis
<9> how would it do that?
<0> Swigert...golly gee..I was needy at times...but **** me...I went to work when i needed money
<2> Swigert these needy you speak of, are those the folks use rich guys rob?
<0> OcDoc..because the fed sales tax would be used to pay the Social Security
<1> darthburg: no they're the beggars on the streets
<9> Cry: how do you know that?
<2> and they need healthcare why?
<0> SS would be supported by purchases...not payroll deductions
<0> OcDoc..I read the book
<2> oh, to make Brak55 feel better
<9> Cry: how would you guarantee that?
<0> www.fairtax.org
<3> Oh well, I'm off to eat dinner with the wife.
<0> that is something that would have to be the law...
<3> You carry on without me :()
<2> thanks dude
<0> we could also take the SS payins away from congress
<2> appreciat eit
<9> I will not go read anything ... I want to know how YOU KNOW that it would turn out as you say, instead of yet another tax that they would lie to us about?
<0> in essence...a real SS lockbox
<9> Cry: would the total amount of taxation go up or down?
<1> why am I watching "The Dukes of Hazzard" movie?
<0> OcDoc..the fairtax org committee..is interested in repealing XVI...and replacing numerous ****ty taxes with a fed consumption tax...
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