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<0> unlike france and others
<1> like your arguments
<2> i am sorry, i am not from the US and A
<3> Kaliuna: if there was *any* real solid evidence of WMDs-were-here in anything found so far by the US or anyone else, don't you think it would have been shouted to the rooftops by now by the Bush Admin and thoroughly vetted? Even the Bush admin admits it's come up empty of any real proof they existed.
<0> the US is most generous
<4> France will sell weapons to anyone
<5> it was highly publicized in the 80s, you'd be kidding yourself to think the US didn't support Hussein when he did those things
<2> my mom, she hates me
<6> Haps: what weapons did the US give iraq? please be specific, or withdraw your claim
<7> there are no mideast powers
<1> in the 80s
<1> when Rumsfeld went there
<0> Haps I guess Canada never gave those people any money
<5> it's fully documented, why should I have to defend it?
<1> they didn't have the facilities to produce it recently
<8> We give everybody money in other countries. Our government seems to think that is their job.
<1> idiots
<9> ++C -- actually - no it wasn't shouted all over the world -- even the stuff they did find
<6> Haps: because *YOU* are the one making the claim. And you have no authority to appeal to
<1> read about it before you spout on about it
<5> comet, I doubt Canada did but only because it has very little to offer
<5> lupine, that's like asking me to prove that Pearl Harbour happened or something
<2> she says she wished she was raped by someone else :(
<3> Saddam was our secret boy-toy in the 80s - because he was very useful to keep the Iranian regime that had kidnapped the americans bogged down
<10> Canada is a lame country - can't even help itself
<0> Haps is too busy trying to dig themselves out of their socialized medicine hole
<7> except saudi arabia or something
<0> Canada rather .. sorry
<3> Kaliuna: But NOTHING significant was ever found. NOTHING.
<0> left out a word
<5> yeah, it's a real mess getting free medical treatment
<5> ****s big time
<10> the people of its largest city - Tronna something - need the army to shovel snow
<0> Haps .. free?
<5> yes
<9> ++C -- actually there was -- got a listing...
<0> where do you get FREE medical treatment?
<7> and they chose to not have a military
<6> Haps: no it is not. you made a claim that is not "common knowledge".. and in fact, seems to contradict known facts.. such as the vast mjaority of weapons that the US soldiers encountered in desert storm, were russian or chinese.. from tanks to guns.. well, they did some some french weapon systems, mirage jets for example
<10> free medical care is useless when the hospitals are choked with the dead from Tronna gun dead
<0> nothing is free
<5> I really hope you're not so petty as to be talking about taxes
<5> obviously it's paid for by taxes
<6> yea.. taxes are so "petty".. lol
<0> Haps .. which is the people. The people pay for their medical treatment.
<0> its not free
<6> easy when you are talking about spending *OTHERS* money
<9> ++C try this one http://www.newsmax.com/scripts/printer_friendly.pl?page=http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/11/16/122915.shtml
<5> however, what really matters is the quality of the doctors
<6> CB: haps pays no taxes himself, so of course it is "petty" to him
<5> comet, yes, you're right
<0> Haps .. no ****. All your good doctors leave
<5> I work 5 days a week, I get taxed to ****, I never complain so **** YOU
<9> From another URL: The United Nations has determined that Saddam Hussein shipped weapons of m*** destruction components as well as medium-range ballistic missiles before, during and after the U.S.-led war against Iraq in 2003.
<11> so, what taxes do conservatives approve of?
<6> Comet: I still want to see Haps actually name some weapon systems Iraq got from teh US.
<1> we imported a specialist for a public hospital that can't speak english
<1> beat that!
<5> it's worth it to live in a country that's not insane
<10> Ontario non-white children have a 50/50 chance of reaching adulthood
<5> at least for now :P
<1> haven't you seen the photo of Rumsfeld shaking Saddam's hand?
<3> Comet: Before Gulf War I, Saddam Hussein did have a very real WMD-building effort going, including nuclear. AFTERWARD, he hoped someday to be able to resume it, but was stripped of his capabilities. A main motive for being difficult with the inspectors, other than sheer sociopathic cussedness, was to convincingly feint surrounding countries in the region into *thinking* he actually might have retained some capabilities, su
<10> not that it'll make anything better, given the decline in education, no jobs
<9> ++C and here's another one http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38213
<4> suna, taxes to support a military =) ... being isolationist doesn't work...Pearl Harbor proved that
<0> Haps ..basically, doctors have only two choices in Canada .. go on strike .. or work in the US
<11> ok, that's one
<11> :P
<10> CB: most choose the latter - pays better
<4> hehe, there are some more but that's one near and dear to me =)
<5> I will say this, the medical system in certain places here is very messed up
<12> how much do doctors make in canada as compared to america?
<12> on average
<4> tehdave, $11 per hour, Canadian
<4> at least
<6> Haps: in many of the northern US cities, it is a HUGE business supplying medical services to canadians who are tired of waiting
<10> tehdave: slightly less but it's an unfair comparison because of US liability insurance.
<5> I make 14 dollars an hour and I'm just a data entry clerk, I hope they make more than 11 an hour :)
<11> you gotta keep a military supported. Unforunately too many people pretend supporting the military = supporting everything some suits in washington want to do with it
<12> policy: they make wages?!
<0> lupine .. well, if you need an MRI .. it's off to the waiting list for you
<6> CB: yep
<11> ie 90% with 'support our troops!' stickers on our car. They don't want you to support the damn troops, they want you to agree with their politics
<6> Canada's overall crime rate is now 50 percent higher than that of the United States.
<11> ****ing bull****
<11> dishonestly
<6> some utopia
<11> y
<11> ;p
<10> Tronna people are wealthy - no poverty
<4> tehdave...they might get an annual salary...I dunno...I'm not a doctor!
<5> lupine, I live in the maritimes so it's probably considerably different here... and I'm not saying there's not immense problems with many parts of our medical system, just that I have no problem with the idea of a public health service
<7> dammit Jim
<3> Kaliuna: How come even the Bush Admin no longer stands by claims that there were WMD? Because the so-called evidence you cite hasn't really stood up to scrutiny.
<10> dammit I'm a doctor, not a physician
<12> policy: so how do you know what their wage is? you know a lot of canadian doctors?
<4> I said at least $11 Canadian
<9> ++C -- oh it held up - just wasn't ENOUGH found -- to make the big splash ...
<6> ++C: um, even the UN inspectors admit there WERE WMD. we ALL just have no clue as to where they DID go
<5> who the hell said canada was utopia?
<9> ++C -- they wanted a whole lot more....
<4> I'll bet my entire fortune they make at least that much
<13> maybe iran has it
<11> ++C: before the war, nearly everyone from every party thought that there were WMDS. Including democrats and liberals
<6> suna: not to mention Chiraq, Putin, Schroeder etc
<6> ***ual ***ault in Canada per 100,000 people was more than double that of the U.S., 74 for Canada as opposed to 32.1 for the United States.
<14> hopefully they use the wmd's to blow up rainforests, to make room for more snack cake factories
<10> The Toronto hospitals in rich white areas are models of efficiency; those in poorer areas are only slightly better than nothing at all.
<5> suna, that's rubbish
<4> cheesy poofs
<14> I'm out of little debbies
<3> Lupine: Yes indeed there were WMD *before* Gulf War I, and for awhile afterward, but Saddam's capabilities were destroyed in the interim. He would have liked to have resumed them if and when he could.
<5> lupine, what the hell are you trying to prove?
<11> no it's not man. All the anti war protests I saw had nothing to do with 'OH THERE'S NO WMDS OVER THERE!'
<4> you know Sayturn those aren't very healthy...fruit is healthier
<11> I didn't want iraq invaded, I odn't like george bush
<10> Toronto's mayor is a moron
<11> but I'm not in denial
<6> ++C: no, we do not know if they were destroyed. THAT was the problem. Saddam CLAIMED he destroyed them, but ther is no PROOF they were.
<4> and you support some third-world place that makes it =)
<14> i have to live up to being a typical overweight american, i do my part by eating grease
<9> ++C and they had plans to do so as soon as UN sanctions were lifted... which were about to happen
<11> people who don't support the war now didn't support it before it started, and they had nothing to say about there being no WMDS then
<13> what proof would you accept?
<11> the point is that there were other reasons to not support the war
<5> suna, I very clearly remember the period leading up to the war, it was ridiculous to think Iraq had any kind of weapons capability like Bush and friends were talking about
<11> but as soon as something they didn't anticipate convieniently comes into their favor
<13> there was no proof that bush would have accepted
<4> Sayturn, oi...actually, Brits are heavier than Americans, I think
<11> they ignore their true so called 'principles'
<11> and bitch about WMDS all ****ing day
<11> this is why i don't like being paired with the democratic party
<6> Haps: so you thought Clinton and Kerry were being ridiculous?
<11> bunch of ****ing liars
<14> any source to that ?
<9> Haps -- you are so ignorant or just blind -- or just trolling?
<4> Sayturn...I think I read some statistics on that...
<5> yes, I think Clinton and Kerry are also ridiculous, they're politicians
<11> I didn't support the war before it started, and I thought there were wmds in iraq. Just like most everybody in this country.
<11> Difference is i'll amdit that
<5> kal, I'm just ignorant and blind
<11> good luck getting your average dem to talk about anything other than 'NO WMDS OVER THERE!'
<6> suna: most everyone in a position to have an informed opinion did as well
<4> and I did caveat that with "I think" =)
<9> Haps -- nope you are just trolling -- cut it out...
<7> i supported tha war
<13> what do the republicans or democrats agreeing that there were WMD beforehand have anything to do with anything, they are politicians
<13> what do they know about WMD
<3> Lupine: We've had control of the country for TWO solid years now, combing every inch for WMD. If they existed in any substantial form, most especially in any readily capable form, we would have found them, unless they were spirited successfully and entirely off to third countries in the months before the war. There may be an outside possibility that e.g. in a warehouse in Syria somewhere, some of the relevant stash is hidd
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