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Comments:
<0> peop
<1> the people have voiced their opinions, the lawmakers have heard them
<0> grrr
<1> now they get to make a choice
<2> there aren't any Republicans saying that either
<0> the E is to close to the P
<0> hahahaa
<3> bmc: The people aren't behind the Democrats, but the Republicans are so disunited that they will capitalize on it and win the election nonetheless.
<4> I say: "are you nuts" all the time.
<2> in office that is
<5> rusty.. it is a PROP.. all weekend they said.. Americans were angry at the mexican flags.. so DO not bring mexican flags we have bought american flags for you to carry... so that people will look at you and be happy
<6> Yankee27: it's not very nice
<5> it is a Prop
<3> The Republicans are where the Democrats were at in 2004.
<4> I could care less which party wins...
<0> Yankee there is a difference to between BALLS and NUTS
<4> Uhh.
<3> bmc: And the bottom line is that the American people aren't going to elect more people who want your m***-purge of people. The opposite is going to happen in November.
<7> pickle: as long as many people ignorantly believe that illegals "took me job!".. i wouldn't be so sure on that
<8> Thats guy makes me sick
<5> yeah with ALL the illegals registered here NOW. the dems may get in
<1> Pickle the american people support such a purge
<4> haha
<8> I want to punch him
<1> as you call it
<4> Tancredo is cool
<3> bmc: Prove it.
<1> just look at the polls
<2> what did he do
<6> I don't think immigration's going to be the hot button issue
<4> "I'm so angry, I just want to hit somebody!"
<9> i think Iraq is going to be the hot button issue
<2> thing is, Dems and Repubs are both pretty split on immigration
<9> or maybe Iran, by that time.
<3> bmc: Show me. Show me a poll that asks if 11 million illegals should be m***-deported from their homes in America, and the results that say they should be.
<6> yes LunaSlave, Middle East issues
<3> One single poll.
<2> that's why it wil not be a deciding issue in this election
<7> Luna: if it wasn't in 2004... why 2006?
<4> if this keeps up, ppl are going to be forgetting that we're still in Iraq.
<1> ok
<1> one sec
<9> because i think popular opinion on it has shifted significantly
<10> I hope USA bombs Iran
<2> nah let France handle Iran
<10> Nah
<2> they know how to fix everything
<9> another issue that should be a major thing is the ineptness in handling the Katrina disaster
<7> herzen: i'ld love to see Iraq invade iran :-)
<10> USA should do it
<4> I hope Israel bombs Iran....let them waste their weapons.
<4> waste=use
<2> France is so smart -- we are too dumb.
<4> not a waste
<2> Bush is dumb! Let France take the lead
<5> yeah.. the LOCAL goverment failed horribly in katrina
<7> IF Isreal has to do something.. there is a strong chance it'll involve small nukes.
<3> That should keep him busy for a while, since no such poll has ever been conducted, let alone answered with a "yes".
<2> wellll, yes wecan't even handle Katrina =)
<8> He has a take no prisoners stance against illegal aliens. He and the felony people piss me off. I dont mind people who disagree with it but to say its unprecedented is nonsense, this country was built on amnestys and Amnestys are as American as Apple Pie, but this isnt even an amnesty, They have to pay a penalty and then work here without any DUIs or Any criminal activity for like 5 years before they can even start the citizenship
<1> Mandatory detention and forfeiture of property, followed by deportation, for anyone here illegally (78%; 51% strongly agree)
<2> Let France take the lead in Iran
<8> they have to take English, American Civics, History etc.
<9> it failed on all levels - local, federal, state. and i fail to see why war against Iran (or Iraq for that matter) is justified
<7> BM: URL?
<1> Americans also agree that a practical way of achieving this goal would be to make to make penalties for illegal presence here so severe that illegal immigrants would leave voluntarily rather than run the risk of being caught and made to pay the consequences (64% agree, 44% agree strongly). Older Americans are especially likely to strongly agree with the____soundness of this approach.
<7> oops.. URL
<8> You dont get to citizenship unless you demonstrate love of america, some fake it but most dont.
<0> janet heheh this is cool
<6> Pickle: here is an interesting poll on the subject...
<3> Every single American citizen got an "amnesty" from the American indians who were displaced in the formation of America to begin with.
<9> what does 'love of america' mean?
<6> In our survey, we informed respondents that there are 11 million illegal aliens living in the United States and that more than half have lived here for more than five years. Upon hearing those facts, 40% favored forcibly requiring all 11 million to leave the United States. Just 44% are opposed to a forcible removal of illegal aliens.
<11> Freed0m: if it were so American, then it would have support by a majority of the American people...each time that it was done...and it was not and still is not supported by the majority
<8> bmc, Thats idiotic for a simple reason, It would destroy the US economy.
<9> the term is essentially meaningless
<0> my wife likes CUTE games on the ps2
<8> I am not willing to do anything to destroy the US economy
<1> A mandatory prison term and forfeiture of property, followed by deportation, for anyone here illegally (69%; 46% strongly agree)
<6> http://www.rasmussenreports.com/2006/March%20Dailies/Immigration%20March%2030-31.htm
<0> the other night
<2> ok I am going to look up how many Americans are unemployed
<11> Freed0m: it wouldn't destroy it, but it might take a momentary dip
<3> mizzy: Right--a minority support bmc's m*** purge, as I have been saying.
<11> Freed0m: you are exaggerating again
<1> npg.org
<0> she freakin raked my *** over the coals in mortal kombat
<2> I think it wold hit our economy hard
<8> But I am willing to bring them out of the shadows, Clamp down on the border now, And start a legal work program for new immigrants and existing immigrants after they pay some penalty
<1> According to a RoperASW poll
<2> well, plus it's impossible so it's not really an issue
<8> It would destroy our economy flat out..
<1> march 2003
<11> Freed0m: you and the rest of the businesses hooked on cheap illegal-immigrant labor need to be cut off cold turkey
<8> Ben Stein said, It would completely destroy our economy..
<0> hhahaha no matter where i was no matter wht i did , she just smoekd me
<2> "if" an attempt were made to deport all illegals -- first of all, it would not succeed
<7> BMC: can you post the URL for that poll, so we can take a look at it?
<9> the prison-industrial complex would *love* to jail all illegal immigrants. that means new jails, new slave labor jobs, and more money!
<1> http://www.pollingreport.com/immigration.htm
<2> since the attempt to deport all illegals would not succeed -- the effect on the economy would be marginalized
<1> The poll, cited on CNN's "Lou Dobbs Tonight" program yesterday, noted a huge majority 81 percent believes local and state police should help federal authorities enforce laws against illegal immigration.
<3> bmc: That doesn't ask the question I proposed, though, nor inform the person being questioned that we are talking about the m***-deportation of 11 million people. The poll mizzy quoted does, and as you see, only a minority support such a barbaric act. A shockingly large minority, but still.
<8> I think if you took areas along the border because I really do understand americans who live on the borders have a right to not have 50 people trampling through their property every day, SO I understand they need help and they ought to get it.
<2> plus, nobody is even going to make such an attempt
<0> i played hockey with her later
<4> even 500,000 illegals are not going to be deported.
<12> halliburton's subsidiary already won contract to build concentration camps for immigrants..."just in case"
<0> she kicked my *** BAD
<1> Voters were also asked, "Do you support or oppose the Bush administration's proposal to give millions of illegal aliens guest worker status and the opportunity to become citizens?" Only 35 percent gave their support, and 56 percent said no.
<8> And its the federal government who owes help tot he border towns.
<6> pickle: 44% is nothing to sneeze at... though I do concede that it is a minority
<0> hatricks and stuff
<0> 3 games
<8> I argee with LIMITED FENCES, not a Great wall of china.
<11> Freed0m: Ben Stein is also overly exaggerating
<3> mizxzy: 40%. 44% oppose it.
<4> both minorities
<4> err
<8> But yeah a person who lives on the border deserves to not be harrased by a flood of illegals, I sympathize with him and want the border enforcement to crackdown like it never has in history
<7> Pickle: "What if the United States deported all illegal immigrants and toughened security to stop them from entering this country? Do you think the United States would be better off or worse off?"
<4> what's a fence going to do?
<11> Freed0m: no, we need a Great Wall of America :P
<12> just in case they wanted to make some 20% off $400millions
<2> it ain't gonna happen folsk
<11> if it is ever to be effective
<2> folks
<8> but up north away from the border they are not a problem
<3> Still nothing to sniff at, as you say, but hardly supporting bmc's supposition that any majority of Americans want to m***-expel 11 million people.
<6> Pickle: I stand corrected
<7> Pickle: i make no excuses as to teh wisdom of my fellow americans, but that question si pretty dang close to what you requested.
<2> there will not be an attempt at m*** deportation, and even if there were -- it won't succeed
<8> Also one problem is South East LA is full of communities of illegals, Some are gangsters, all of them should go back.
<8> Any gangster.
<8> Any criminal.
<8> Anyone trampling peoples land.
<13> 'seamy'?
<8> Clamp the border down ****ing tight.
<4> with a 40 foot wall
<13> the cliche is 'seedy'
<8> At the same time make a legal form of immigration pre approved.. they would be approved but on a waiting list
<11> Freed0m: part of that involves building the Great Wall of America :P
<3> Lupine: Not really. The important point to make is that we are talking about m***-expelling 11 million people. Any question that doesn't mention that shouldn't be trusted. Mizzy's poll is valid for that reason.
<6> Yankee27 likes the wall idea :)
<0> Vertical dude
<0> Rawwr!!!
<4> yeah
<13> anyway, I'm convinced that half of the ****ing House is anti-business by now
<2> seemy or seamy ... one of them is a word
<4> I want a wall built.
<1> "Deporting all illegal immigrants back to their home countries"
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