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<0> Ask discotaco about ethanol, Hes pretty much an expert on it..
<1> RULE #1: If a politician says it's one thing, it's the other.
<2> ive seen it be made irl but i didnt get an explanation of what was in it etc
<3> Free, all I know is what I read from ethanol producers...of which there's one in my town...
<4> gets you hammered
<4> if you put fruit in there and leave it, itll end up white
<4> white strawberry
<1> mmmm
<4> then you get the eat the piece of fruit
<4> haha
<4> i never tried that part
<4> but the liquor itself isnt that bad
<5> yea.. BMC has a white "strawberry"
<0> These are future ways of making ethanol what Bush called Switch Ethanol or something
<0> Ded, They do use sugar.. The question is how do they get sugar.
<4> they use strawberries, peaches, blueberries whatever



<4> i guess plain on corn liquor gets old after awhile
<0> How does american manufacture sugar ?
<4> old*
<5> Fr33Trade if we had built nuclear plants, instead of natural gas.. we'ld have so much surplus natural gas, propane, etc.. that every city could swithc over to it for fleet vehicles.
<0> Mostly with beets
<0> Sugar beets
<5> bmc: it has a little bit more character than vodka.. but not much!
<4> hey if i were an alcoholic
<4> id be making some
<4> beer too
<0> But it was brought up in the CAFTA talks.. and a remedy for american sugar growers was a pork barrely purchasing program to convert sugar to ethanol along with a grain.
<0> Which is corn
<2> its kinda hard and requires some equipment and space
<4> i had a friend make beer before
<4> hit saw in our metal building
<0> Renewable agriculture resources are readily available for more domestic energy production. A new type of biotechnology called industrial biotechnology is so innovative that now companies in this area have the means to convert straw to gold. By using advanced biotech enzymes to convert crop residues to sugars and then to ethanol and other products, farmers can harvest and sell two crops from every field planted -- a food crop and
<0> That is new technology
<4> was hot as hell in there, the metal burned your hand
<0> But its also an exageration
<4> case of beer, i rubbed against and one bottle fell out onto the floor
<4> *BAM*
<0> to meet americans energy needs for cars with ethanol you would have to plant every arable acre with a fuel producing plant
<4> guy had to much yeast or let it set for to long or something
<4> **** sounded like a shotgun blast
<3> http://www.kycorn.org/keyissues/ethanol/cae.htm
<3> there's the local ethanol plant
<4> i had a funner experience with a burning barrel
<3> they're a customer of mine, as well
<4> had some halogen headlights in there i wasnt aware of
<4> those things really pop loud
<4> 400 lbs of wet trash, couple halogens in the mess, and i lit it, barrel hopped off the ground i bet 4"
<3> one bushel of corn produces 2.5 gallons of ethanol
<2> what does the topic say
<6> so now that oil prices have dropped a bit on the stock market
<6> does that mean gas prices will continue to go up?
<6> haha
<3> fonebone, of course..its almost "summer driving season"!
<6> oil prices go down... gas prices go up... oil prices go up... gas prices go up
<6> hehe
<2> hows the dollar ?
<7> who thinks we'll see 80 dollar oil this summer?
<7> definite
<6> exxon sure hopes so
<6> ;)
<2> probably devaluating coz of the war, which would explain the gas prices
<4> Fireclaw_ its in spanish, who cares
<3> we'll see $3 gas regardless
<4> if it were important it would be in english
<8> consensus seems to be that if israel attacks iran's nuclear sites, oil will settle between 100 and 110 a barrel
<8> that should be entertaining
<0> Cool I got tech support on the IM
<2> republicans something mexicans something something live something america
<4> gee you figured that our all by yourself? :P
<4> haha j/k
<2> trabajar = work ? :P
<4> wth is Soy?
<7> yeah, to work
<9> mi pinche trabajo!!
<7> soy is to be
<4> vivir?
<7> all the spanish i know is from 8th grade, so don't get your hopes up



<10> Ted Kennedy speaking Spanish.
<9> current bill is a crock of crap
<7> but i think vivir is to live
<1> Theocracy: $100
<3> Fireclaw_, it means.."Where's my ****ing burrito supreme combo?!?!"
<4> which current bill?
<9> dems gotta do something tho, amercians arent voting for them so go after the criminal vote
<4> what happened to the bill that already P***ED the house?
<4> shouldnt they be debating that
<11> i got a fill up at @ 2.53/gal this morning. 30 minutes later it jumped to 2.89
<10> naw
<7> $100 oil, wow
<1> $100
<7> $4 at the pump?
<1> 4.67
<10> the 100 club on the hill is to busy pandering to Illegal Mexicans to debate anything
<7> that would be rape
<10> this is why we should not elect senators
<1> Theocracy: Get ready
<11> immigration is a distraction.....we don't need action on it now.
<4> i mean how long did it take the house to p*** a bill?
<12> Iran Focus: Tehran, Iran, Apr. 11 Radical Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad declared on Tuesday that Iran had officially joined the group of countries with nuclear capabilities commonly known as the Nuclear Club.
<4> what is the senate up to
<7> jhicks: ready for what, high gas prices or the end of life as we know it?
<2> laserguy so what is the real issue we're being distracted from ?
<1> Theocracy: Soccer moms will have to abandon their SUV's
<4> laserguy we needed action on it 15 yrs ago
<11> probably iran. fireclaw.
<7> jhicks: i don't care about that, i hate cars and i hardly drive
<2> um
<4> they should have a bill ready to be signed by the president already
<7> jhicks: just as long as they don't blow up the world over it
<4> wtf is wrong with those people
<2> id expect more rumor and trashtalk about iran before anything else
<1> Theocracy: soccer moms are pretty hot at times
<10> I hardly ever walk, but you do not see me banning sidewalks
<7> did i say ban cars?
<2> unless they are distracting the public from wanting to go there ^^
<3> sidewalks? where?
<11> you dont' go enacting laws on heat of demonstrations. let it cool off
<10> Curb it!
<1> fire hoses!
<4> laserguy the house bill p***ed before any demonstrations
<4> i think it caused some of them
<11> ya
<9> propane just doesnt change in price. I'll be filling my car up @ $1.70/gal all the way through whatever happens with Iran
<3> outside of any city's downtown..you'd be hard pressed to find a sidewalk, bike path..anything that would interfere with the 6 lanes of gridlock
<7> soon everyone will be driving hybrids i guess
<4> so why isnt that bill being debated, amended whatever, and sent to the pres. to be signed into law
<4> what is the holdup
<4> we already know what the issue is, and how to deal with it, all thats left is for them to write it down
<11> my avalanche gets 13 mpg. its killing me. but i need the haulin capacity
<7> DeDannan: that's very true, suburbs are for cars, not people. they isolate (partly on purpose)
<4> if they cant agree on reform, p*** a security-only bill for now
<0> To compensate for more sugar imports, both from CAFTA and the North American Free Trade Agreement, lobbyists suggested in negotiations with the administration that the industry get an extra $1-per-gallon subsidy to make sugar-based ethanol. The extra help would have been in addition to the current 51 cents ethanol-subsidy blenders now receive.
<4> who would disagree with better border security?
<2> the mexicans :P
<10> "Leave No Immigrant Behind"
<0> I wasnt wrong, But i knew that when I posted it.
<13> i joined gamblers anonymous they gave me 2-1 i wouldn't make it
<10> :Non Citizen Vote accord"
<4> non-citizens dont have a say
<4> they dont votw
<1> DarthBurg: Or at least not the weed he's smuggling in
<4> vote*
<2> bmc, i would disagree with spending a lot of money on it
<0> I usually know when I can be wrong, because i dont have the certainty or clarity of memory
<11> maybe they don't vote (legally)
<10> hahah I vote, and right now, i am being ignored by my elected leaders.
<4> well if they vote illegally thats a deportable offense
<10> right now, they are taking care of non citizens
<4> no questions asked
<1> voting doesn't matter, the choices all ****


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