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Comments:
<0> Americans can't operate in Mexico.
<1> A ftriend of mine bought a buisness and a home in Mexico and lives there now.
<2> jhicks: we can't?
<3> All your Mexicans are belong to us !
<2> new to me
<1> A white born in america, American.
<2> see, there ya go.
<0> Timur-: nope, you gotta do a 'trust'
<4> You normally have to show id to rent a room, they take a copy of your DL for a one night stay.
<2> course, then he's open to charges of dual loyalties
<0> Timur-: you never gain title
<1> Jhicks, You are lying
<1> We have all kinds of factories on the other side of the border.
<1> American owned.
<5> In America it is legal to own a company hold a job, buy property or do anythign else without proving citizenship, as well it SHOULD be. the problem is: this laxaty of a free country invites abuse, and illegals provide that very abuse
<4> And you are saying people are renting houses and buying homes without any proof of anything?
<0> Fr33Trade: without title to the property
<6> Currency, a medium of exchange needs to have a basis in value independent of government decree. Fiat currency is subject to inflation, deflation and numerous other maladies manipulated and/or implemented by subjective bureaucrats oftentimes using irrational and illogical decision making; resulting in loss of fortunes to the average citizens.
<0> Americans cannot hold title to mexican property
<1> But under real estate law it specifically is legal to sell property to non americans.
<5> Mexico is not a free country
<4> I just can't believe someone could buy property anonymously.
<0> pilgrim`: exactly
<3> Croyols, see Technocracy.
<7> pilgrim`, maybe not..but it's damned cheap!
<1> I learned that to get a brokers license, the brokers license test is very hard and most people flunk it. I had to study this issue along with 1000 other issues.
<5> I do not blame ilelgals for wanting to enter this nation, I thinkt he real accountability shoudl be in the various law enforcement branches charged with dealign with illegals
<0> Fr33Trade: I'm not lying, if I fetch the statute can I get an apology?
<8> Immigration and Nationality Act Section 237 (a)(1)(B) "Any alien who is present in the United States in violation of this Act or any other law of the United States is deportable."
<9> this stupid **** immigrants are stupid, why are they protesting and demanding ****, if congress wants to kick em out they have no ****ing right to complain they are here illegaly costing the government a ****load of cash, the nerve of this ppl
<1> You dont have to buy it anonymously, You can say Here is my mexican ID, I want to buy this house.. Then you set up financing and so forth and they can.
<0> Fr33Trade: you called me a liar.
<4> So you could buy it but you could be deported from it?
<0> that wasn't fair
<7> jhicks, it's not just Americans..most foreign nationals can't own property in Mexico...not directly anyway...
<1> There is though something new within the last year or 2, and that is they are now requiring more identification to get a loan by requirement of the homeland defense dept of the federal government.
<0> DeDannan: exactly
<6> I would not buy anything down there..unless I could hold an indemnity
<10> killa-, I know a lot of illegal aliens that speak and write better than you do, in English.
<4> Well sure now I get it.
<9> otis your point is?
<9> what does that have to do with what im saying fool
<10> killa-, that you are a dumb***.
<0> Ok, Fr33trade, i'll let it go. You called me a liar. I'm not. but that's ok.
<9> nah your the dumb***
<7> Cry, there are trusts, etc..that protect foreign owners...to a degree, anyway..
<0> I'd never call you a liar.
<5> the INS should all be fired and the monies spent there distributed directly to the Border Patrol
<1> It is absolutely legal to buy real estate in mexico no matter where you are from, they want foreign investment
<11> the minutemen should be given more powers
<0> No, it's not.
<0> You cannot buy real estate in Mexico.
<11> there is no reason american citizen volunteers shouldnt be able to patrol their border and use force
<9> otis i bet you or your family are spics that are here illegaly
<4> Just not near the border of mexico.
<1> CAN FOREIGNERS REALLY OWN PROPERTY IN MEXICO?
<1> Yes, Americans and other foreigners may obtain direct ownership of
<1> property in the interior of Mexico. However, under Mexican law,
<1> foreigners cannot own property outright within the restricted zone.
<11> is that from an educated source
<1> Instead, a real estate trust must be set up to hold title for the
<1> foreigner. Since foreigners are not able to enter into contracts in
<12> sure you can buy property in mexico... then the local governments can demand "protection" payments and other forms of extortion
<1> buy real estate, they must have a bank act on their behalf, much as
<1> a trust is use to hold property for minors because they also can not
<1> contract.
<12> :P
<5> Free you can ONLY purchase in Mexico if you have a citizen as the cosignatory on the deed. There are companies down there which offer this "formality" BUT, the US "owner" now has NO legal recourse concerning his "property"
<4> Sure who cares who owns it, just becuase you can own it doesn't mean you can live in it.
<1> Thats ownership through a trust.
<12> mexico is so damn corrupt
<12> its no suprise no one wants to live there
<0> That's what I said FT
<1> Legally ownership is considered ownerhsip of a bundle of rights.
<4> Immigrants legal or not are nmot affored free speech in mexico.
<0> I'm not a liar.
<9> mexico is better than the US in the fact that if you have money there you are somebody here in the states you can have all the money you want and you still aint **** you commit a crime you going to jail
<1> To buy, live in , dispose of or sell the property means you own property. Because its a trust does not mean its not your property, it is in fact your property.
<0> spin
<1> Ive learned this as a real estate broker.
<4> Killa OJ,
<12> killa is a troll :P
<12> how is that better killa.. thats retarded
<1> Noone in america owns there house if you want to use the same criteria.
<12> having money doesnt make you a better person
<1> Most of them have mortgages. So the bank has a trust deed on the house.
<1> And the Government has a property tax lien on your house.
<12> yup.. gov can take your **** anytime it wants
<1> IN Hawaill people buy homes for a period of 99 years, this is total ownhership of the property.. For 99 years.
<12> and are starting to do so
<1> These are common in Hawaii uncommon in the mainland.
<12> imminent domain and what not
<1> in 99 years they revert to a 3rd party of choice. maybe the descendents of the trustee.
<1> Or trustor.
<0> this may flood, i'll try not to...
<1> So that issue is settled.
<1> No you cant flood
<12> flood!
<1> Ownership is legally defined as a bundle of rights with respect to property real or personal (Real means attached to the earth)
<0> I said you can't gain title to mexican property
<0> and you can't
<1> YOu do gain title through a trustor.
<0> no flood
<11> the trustor holds the title
<0> which is worthless as soon as a mexican neighbor contests
<1> as a Trustee, they hold your title in trust. And you have about the same rights americans have with the property
<11> and you have to trust him
<1> to livethere, to rent it, to sell it.
<0> "about the same rights"
<0> HAH
<1> Jhicks, americans dont have true absolute ownership of property
<0> http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_970.html
<1> Those are the same rights americans have.
<0> no, they aren't.
<0> you have courts to settle disputes here
<5> Free in NM the Cochit Pueblo sold 99 year leases to people for vacation homes. Homes were built, a few sold, then a shaman decided it was bad ju ju and they tribe renigged. the Developer went bankrupt and all buyers lost all
<0> there you settle disputes with bribes
<5> Cochiti
<1> Americans dont need a trustor unless they carry a balance on it, then a trutor of the bank or trustee, I get confused acts on behalf of the bank if you dont live up to your contract.
<13> Refuse to pay your property taxes and see how long you 'own' your home.
<1> Pilgrim, they shoulf have insured.
<0> Fr33Trade: I'm not a liar.
<5> Hawaii lands are subject to the same
<1> I would never buy a home without insurance in america.
<0> That was very offensive.
<5> Free they did. It seems the BIA allows tribes many speical latitudes in dealings of tribal land matters; same as in Hawaii; if they change their mind. thats it
<1> Jhicks, you did like when you said americans cant own property in Mexico, they do. only its done thru a bank trust.
<1> Levis has plants in Mexico, I have a friend who has a house and a business in cancun.
<0> Fr33Trade: Like when they nationalized all the American holdings before?
<1> Or one of those resort towns.
<1> Jhicks, Im talking about the law now
<1> You want to talk about the past go ahead
<5> Free or companies that provide the servce; and the service is "You lease" I own. so no, you have all the responsibilites of owjership and losoe one key right
<0> I'd prefer an apology.
<1> You can buy property in mexico, if you understand what property is even in american legal language.
<5> it is NOT your land i is a special lease agreement that if you read it; can be broken at any time y fiat
<0> pilgrim`: exactly
<0> Americans don't have the same rights in Mexico that Mexicans have in America.
<1> Its a real estate trust, Which we have in america too. There are non restricted zones where they can buy property like in america.
<0> spin
<0> But hey, what do I know. I'm just a liar.
<1> http://www.mexonline.com/propmex.htm
<4> Legal immigrants in mexico are not allowed to partake in political discourse.
<1> There a guide to how to buy property in mexico
<0> sintient1: correct
<1> What you dont understand is americans employ many of these same methods.
<5> if any of varous things apply such as: it is indiginous population land, Spanish Land Grant Land, government expropriated land (similar to our imenant domain), in need by any municipality, state govonor's office, Fed or military
<13> Whatever you own in Mexico today is subject to change tomorrow, remember that Mexico is the most corrupt nation on Earth.
<0> Fr33Trade: by a real estate huckster
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