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<0> the problem is the best way is still going to ****
<0> it's just too damn big
<1> it'll ****, but it'll **** less than anything else
<2> occ: ground robots with a loudspeaker and a rifle. Put one of these every 100 yards
<3> with 'amnesty' to the extent that those who get the hell out aren't pursued for prosecution :P as getting them the hell out is the forking point
<4> remember, they can tunnel under the walls too
<2> tunnels are only a big problem inside cities
<2> cities needs to have more defense
<0> one was found recently somethin like a mile long, complete with artwork and light fixtures and tons of marijuana:P
<3> parallel fences make far more sense than walls
<2> but most of the border is wasteland that can easily be defended by hunter-killer robots
<4> suna, yeah the artwork was a nice touch
<5> lol
<0> just shows how hard it is to protect an entire damn border
<3> the longer we don't do it, the longer the border is insecure
<0> don't do what?
<2> There is an army that can defend the border
<2> but it is in Iraq
<3> the longer we don't secure the border
<3> I thought that was obvious :P
<0> securing the border isn't going to happen
<2> it is the Iraqi army... 200000+ iraqis who are willing to work for cheap
<4> you don't need an army...
<2> let's ship the iraqi army back home and task them with protecting the border
<4> a few guys with BB guns could do it, if you had a Wall
<3> it should happen, and the states actually on the border should be cooperating
<0> anway I'm so bored of this issue. I wish the news would stop talking about it so this channel could move on
<5> Place a tower every 500 yards with spotters in them and sensors between them, then when they see illegals approaching call in some ground guys to arrest them
<3> california, new mexico, arizon, and texas particularly
<2> after all, they have greeted us as liberators and will be proud to defend the US-Mexico borders
<3> arizona*
<4> learn from the chinese emperor Qin Shi Huang
<4> he kept out the Mongol hordes for 1000s of years
<1> yah but mongoloids are easily outwittable
<3> the great wall of china is a lovely architectural feature now, but we don't really need a lovely architectural feature on our border
<1> i mean come on
<4> they eventually got in, but only by bribing a gatekeeper, not by breaching the wall
<2> the Mexico-US wall would become an iconic picture of america
<3> we need a cheaper, practical, workable barrier with patrols
<2> when people think of America, they would think of the wall
<2> and all the dead mexicans that got shot when they tried crossing
<4> it would double as a tourist attraction too
<3> keep in mind the difference between keeping interlopers out and keeping people in
<6> soilent green may be an option
<4> you could sell tshirts
<2> S-Fidelis: it has the same effect
<3> no, e-Hernick, it doesn't
<4> "I Climbed The Great Wall of Mexico"
<3> that's an idiotic claim, e-Hernick
<5> yeah we need something cheep and practical, which i think towers with spotters and patrols are the best way we can go about it
<3> as most of your claims are, come to think of it
<6> panini iirc that was followign the waring kingdoms period
<4> pilgrim`, correct
<3> Bokavitch: and two parallel fences with plenty of space between them, well inside the border itself
<2> S-Fidelis: it's like the Racial Separation Zionist Apartheid Wall, as it is called by Hamas. It's there to keep people out.
<3> there will be problematic points where towns are actually on the border itself
<5> yeah fences could work i suppost, they are pretty cheap
<3> oh, go fork yourself, e-Hernick, with your demogoguery
<5> if we're talking chain link and barbed wire
<2> Bokavitch: cheap fence are easy to cross
<6> how was that spelled? zug liang? I think?
<3> fork hamas while you're at it
<2> S-Fidelis: I'm just saying that lots of people will see it that way
<5> not only fences
<6> guy who wrote Way of the General
<5> but spot towers
<7> two layered fence with sensors and a road in the middle
<2> S-Fidelis: I'm saying that the wall will have a terrible effect on America's already tainted image
<5> patrols
<3> good fencing is a lot cheaper and a lot easier and cheaper to keep in good repair, too
<5> and sensors
<7> so they can patrol in the middle of the fences
<3> only in sick minds like your own, e-Hernick
<3> america's image is pretty terrific in healthier minds
<2> S-Fidelis: do you seriously believe that there won't be hundreds of millions of foreign people that will despise america for building a wall, if it does?
<2> America's image across the world is pretty bleak.
<6> and....hummm Liu Ji I think. much later, but still a cool writer on tactics
<4> pilgrim`, you mean Way of the Warrior?
<2> I love America more than any country, even my own.
<7> american policy shouldnt revolve around what other nations think of it
<6> that could be it
<3> e-Hernick: you haven't been reading what's actually been typed. Fence, not wall. if you're complaining about walls, you're complaining to the wrong person
<2> But I have to say that my view isn't widely shared.
<2> S-Fidelis: it will be called a wall
<6> panini it has been some years since I read both
<7> wall would be expensive
<2> some sections will have to be walls
<2> even if most of it is fence
<7> wall and fence are not the same thing
<2> in israel, some sections are fence, to
<6> both take the form of annotations and comenatry on Sun Tzu
<5> wall would be expensive and no more effective than a fence
<2> but the media and the people always see the most scary parts of the wall
<3> admit it, e-Hernick: you gloat over this USA problem because all the USA is to you is something that keeps mexicans out of canada
<7> we could erect a giant 40' concrete wall
<5> israel is a different story
<7> with machine gun nests and such
<3> hey, there's a thought! send illegals to canada!
<7> 'the greal wall of america'
<3> let canada deal with it
<7> itll be one of the wonders of the world
<3> it's spelled F E N C E not wall
<7> great*
<3> idiot
<6> erect 40 foot penisis and tell allt he men we will allow them to come across if we get their women and they submit to emasculation
<2> S-Fidelis: canada does take much more immigrants per capita than the USA, doesn't it?
<8> The History CHannel is doing "conspiracy night" =)
<7> hah
<3> e-Hernick = total waste of time, back on /ignore
<7> drone workers?
<2> S-Fidelis: there are already some sections of the US-Mexico border that are walled off, mostly in urban areas
<7> wtf
<8> freemasons, Skull & Bones, etc
<6> US Male just because you are paranoid doesn't mean somone isn't watchign you
<2> S-Fidelis: I therefore posit that pictures of walls will dominate the media, even if some political parties call it "fence" to improve its image
<8> pilgrim`: it's THEM
<5> i'm watching him right NOW
<6> them? I thought it was US!
<7> a fence is more realistic
<7> but a wall would look better
<2> I agree, a fence is much more realistic.
<7> from our side anyways
<2> But it can't be all fence.
<8> oh I forgor. I AM them
<7> a big *** wall would look bad as ****
<2> It needs to be something like 85% fence 15% wall.
<6> Alright I know I am in there! If I don't come out with my hands up, I'm Coming in to Get ME!
<5> I would rather see fences than droves of illegals waving mexican flags in the street
<2> with various types of walls, according to the need
<5> and frankly so would the average american
<2> However, it is certain that media depictions of this fence will be shots of the small segments of wall
<3> damned right, Bokavitch
<2> Should the fences be electrified and contain razor wire
<9> your insane
<9> mexican flags in the us
<4> the fence could be made attractive, by using good architecture
<3> between la raza and mecha I'm totally fed up
<7> razor wire probably
<9> pfft
<7> so you cant climb it
<9> we would burn down there houses
<2> bmc: what about elecricity then?
<7> na
<4> and it could have artwork
<7> might end up frying someone
<7> that would look bad
<3> traditionally, walls in mexico have either razor wire or, more commonly, embedded shards of broken gl*** at the tops of walls
<2> bmc: no, just small shocks
<4> we could hire muralists to paint both sides of the wall
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