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<0> where I am now..30K/year I would do fine
<1> thats just crazy
<2> CryHavoc, it's also just basic cost of living issues
<0> that and the COL
<2> cost of housing in particular
<3> How much can you save on $30,000 per year?
<4> CH: can you invite Gujiri?
<5> 30k/yr isn't bad for a single person in a low cost part of the country (ie a ****y red state) but if you have kids or live someplace nice, it wont be enuff
<0> I have a lot more choices since I have no kids
<1> StanleyI with a mortgage and other bills, probably not much if any
<6> okay then, avoid FABULOUS HUNTINGTON BEACH, CALIFORNIA as best as you can guys because I pay $430 a month just in HOA dues
<1> need two incomes
<5> kids are a ****ing pit of despair anyway
<5> just something to worry about
<2> Null_Ptr, I live in a red state, but not a ****y one. Very difficult for a family to try to live off of 30k here
<1> two income family will be ok in most situations, its the individual that cant hang



<7> ****y red state lol
<3> what is a red state?
<2> a single person could do it, but it would be very no-frills
<7> stupid comment
<5> Katey yes, but virginia has a bad smell
<8> whats a monthly rent in LA for a 2 bedroom app.?
<2> Null_Ptr, only Hopewell. :)
<6> some of those blue states **** too
<3> how much money do average americans save for retirement?
<7> the whole upper east coast ****s
<5> StanleyI a red state is where the part of the us population with an iq less than 100 lives
<7> too f'n crowded
<6> although Florida certainly does not ****
<5> it's about 50/50
<1> both coasts are crowded
<5> ie half of everyone has an iq less than 100
<0> not that much Stanley...but the income tax we have discourages saving
<5> and half of everyone is in a red state
<2> A red state is a state that tends to vote conservative
<1> there are no red/blue -states- like one or two maybe
<5> red states believe things like legislating sodomy laws, etc
<1> the rest of pretty split
<7> funny ow pretty much all of NASA is in the low IQ red states
<5> retarded ****
<1> are*
<6> "<+Null_Ptr> I am a retarded piece of ****"
<5> red states believe the two most important issues facing the country are homos getting married and college students burning the flag at protests
<1> lockheed is based in a red state isnt it?
<1> :P
<5> if that gives you any idea
<3> If working Americans cannot save for retirement..then what?
<1> StanleyI they eat cat food
<7> most of the design and manufacturing of all of our extremely high tech military is in the low IQ red states
<5> really those two things MUST BE STOPPED AT ALL COSTS
<5> hehe
<0> Blue States are obsessed with Bush
<2> well, hard to argue with Null_Ptr on that one. :) VA has the most aggressive anti gay marriage/partnership laws in the nation
<6> that does give me an idea, null: Hey Comet, ban Null!
<5> yes please
<2> OurGuy, comet is in NYC
<1> my state voted for kerry, but my country voted for bush
<1> er
<6> oh, well it was an idea Katey
<1> county
<7> Lets see what else is in the low IQ red states
<7> oh yeah Dell
<5> you will note, nobody disputed my facts, they just made fun of me :P
<1> out of like 18 counties only 2-3 were solidly supportive of the democrat
<1> and baltimore city
<6> don't forget, rock & roll was invented in the red states
<7> and the blues
<0> rond.... Sapace command
<6> jazz, swing, blues
<2> OurGuy, I don't see the sense in banning someone who's being no more abusive than some conservative regulars are toward liberals.
<3> The electoral college prevents any 3rd party
<8> what are those red states? ( low IQ) ?
<1> they need to get rid of the winner-take-all
<5> i am willing to defend my positions, i am not a demagogue
<1> thats an easy solution
<1> make electoral votes split in proportion to popular vote
<6> the red states contribute to the science, culture, and literacy of our country. The blue states whine and complain



<3> The US is the only nation that allows the states to have full control over federal elections.
<2> both parties like the winner take all rule
<1> Katey cant imagine why :P
<2> so it's not likely to change
<1> because they benefit from it
<1> there shouldnt be 'battleground' states
<9> no blue states, just a little over a dozen blue cities.
<7> te US is the only country with the concept of states
<9> =P
<7> heh
<1> each state should be as important as the next
<4> because the alternative is a parliamentary system which is less stable.
<2> I think other nations also have states
<1> splitting the electoral vote accomplishes that
<2> India, for example
<0> in Australia, the administrative zones gave up their rights to the government...
<7> Are they states in the same sense of ours ?
<5> i think we just need a direct popular election
<1> no way
<5> the reasons for the electoral college are all unreasonable
<1> thats insane
<4> sorry dude, not all states have the same importance.
<2> And other nations just call them 'provinces'
<1> Timur yes they do
<5> and states are not equally important, that is silly
<0> any ops up top awake??
<2> rond, dunno
<10> huh?
<5> some states are more important than most foreign countries, and other states are less important than NYC
<3> the usa states can deny citizens the right to vote and set up any type of voting system they wish
<1> electoral votes are distributed by population, this makes them equal in every respect
<1> er
<1> bah
<1> representation...
<7> StanleyI so you guys allow felons to vote ?
<2> kaye, how goes it?
<10> Katey: friday syndrome, how about you?
<0> TT yo alive??
<7> Ohh thats right you all came from felons forgot
<3> 600,000 US citizens could not vote in Florida
<10> CryHavoc, what do you need
<6> how could we possibly count every vote of every citizen? We could not promise such a thing to our people and not wind up with another scandle.
<2> kaye, can't complain.
<0> kaye I am looking for other ops on here
<4> bmc: nope. California, say, is a hell of a lot more important, than, say, South Dakota. For a whole host of reasons.
<1> the winner take all is gives established parties an unfair advantage, and silences third parties, as well as dimishes the vote of the people
<0> ahh hehehe
<10> CryHavoc: so you need an op, or an op who is not me?
<2> kaye, someone asked me if I am a "militant dyke" today though. That's a first. :)
<0> I do not recognize you
<10> Katey: haha, you get used to it
<11> Stanley: in most states, felony criminals can not vote for at least some period of time.
<2> "aren't you that militant dyke?"
<5> i just think there needs to be an IQ test, let's say best three out of five tests administered by a properly trained phd psychologist, then your vote needs to be multipled by your iq
<11> That is part of their punishment.
<1> Timur maybe ecnomically, not in relation to government representation
<6> I met a non-militant dyke a few days ago and it was the first time
<4> bmc: would it be worth more 'fairness' to have an unstable parliamentary system, as in, say, Italy?
<10> AHAHAHA, what, were they confusing you with me?
<5> that would be the end of the system as we know it
<2> I was like "umm......wha?"
<2> kaye, I doubt it. You don't chat in here that much
<5> retards like are pandering to the religious right with this antigay crap etc would never get elected under such a system
<2> kaye, and you're not "militant"
<2> :)
<10> Katey: yeah, but i used to a lot more than now. I'm sure the reputation is still around.
<8> Does anyone knows whats the avarage income of a software engineer with a 5 years experience, and where, except for the silicon valley, better to go to get a better chance for a job? I started to work in Intel this week !!
<4> Lup: how'd that work in terms of actual politics?
<11> Katey: i think it was Cathy/Matthew who they were thinking about
<5> qasax in what area
<1> i think every state should split their votes, all they have to do is split them in relation to proportion of popular vote
<10> Katey: haha.. bear in mind that for some of these people, female + banning == militant dyke


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