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<0> depends, thats not definnitive tho
<0> right, but worker bees are a dime a dozen
<1> how much did 2 days cost NYC?
<0> you can replace workers, and people have
<1> MikeyD if they wont cross that line
<1> it doesnt matter how many there are
<1> and if they dont want them to cross that line
<1> they arent going to cross that line
<2> Depends on the skill level of the workers
<3> yeah! they're lives are threatened if they cross the line
<1> BillFrugg power of the people
<1> :P
<1> "we know where you live..."
<2> For that matter, even low-skilled repetition work you suffer a great deal of loss of productivity if you have to bring in all new workers
<0> dude, someone during the california grocery strikes tried to prevent me from crossing their picket line
<0> they lined up in front of me and said "please respect our line"
<0> and i said "get out of my way"
<1> theyll drag you out of your vehicle and lump you up
<1> :P
<4> mmm lumping
<0> they then inturn moved to block my entrance
<1> ive never witnessed it myself
<0> so i told them to get out of the way before i put on of them on their ***es
<4> mmm blunts
<1> but ive heard some bad stories, windows being smashed
<1> guns being shown
<0> dude, i wish someone in a union would attempt to drag me out of my car and try to smash on me
<1> etc,etc
<3> union members sabotaged the local factory during a strike
<0> that way i can shoot them and just end the situation all together
<1> MikeyD youre outnumbered
<3> they also destroyed cars parked nearby at homes
<1> they might just take your gun
<0> so were the colonists before the revolutionary war, so what
<0> these people picketing arnt earning money
<0> so when it comes to attrition, ill win
<1> if you cross the line, youre turning your back on your fellow workers
<0> i spit in the face of the group mentality
<0> theyre not my fellow workers
<2> if they're picketing for stpid reasons, theya re doing the same
<3> it isn't their decision to strike, either. that comes from the union leaders
<1> MikeyD then they wont be your fellow workers
<0> theyre idiots that i employ to do basic menial work for a widget of my product
<1> you wont work there
<1> end of story
<5> I think unions usually hold a vote on striking
<0> those jobs dont belong to the people, they belong to the company that is responsible for filling them
<3> union leaders at our plant called a strike to demand increased retirement benefits. They gave away a lot of healthcare benefits to win the retirement, and then retired!
<5> It's too bad that big unions became corrupt.
<0> **** the unions
<5> Labor organizing to create a negotiation counterbalance to management can be a good thing
<0> if people want to tolerate their existance, fine with me
<1> they dont have a choice
<5> but the big unions overreached and became so involved in corrupt activities it caused a serious backlash
<6> Arrr hello
<0> i however have never and will never hire anyone who is a union member or rep nor allow one to form on in my company or whatever company i work for
<5> And ultimately it's been bad for labor. Shot themselves in the foot.
<4> has anyone drawn the similarity between the "communist as the enemy" mentality of the 50s-80s and the current "terrorist as the enemy" mentality of the bush administration?
<3> unions don't give a damn whether the company survives!
<5> sure they do. Their workers depend on the jobs.
<1> BillFrugg companies dont give a damn if their workers survive
<1> the felling is mutual
<1> feeling*
<6> fisher, i'm not seeing what the problem with that is, because in the 50s to the 80s, communists were the enemy, and today, terrorists are the enemy
<3> oh yeah... right! (NOT!)
<0> maybe if these people were turely skills and had employable skills they could use personal responsibility and logic to direct their employment desires when theyre unhappy with one of their employers
<5> But they can become greedy and overreach just as any organization can when they're not sufficiently balanced on the other side
<4> Harsen, but they were only the enemy bc we were told to fear them
<4> thats why i see this similarity
<1> BillFrugg "let them eat cake" ... right?
<4> it seems more like a salem witch hunt than a political stragedy
<1> i would take your company down
<6> fisher, No, they weren't only the enemy because you were told to fear them
<4> stradegy*
<6> Khruschev said it best, "We will bury you"
<4> ah i didnt know that
<4> but the same can then be said with bin laden or hussein
<4> who obviously are brutal killers
<6> They were very much your enemies because they acted aganist your interests, they tried to expand their interests, they pointed thermonuclear weapons at you, and had an idealogy which is completely contrary to your way of life and the livelihood of your citizenry
<4> now can you not draw those similarities today?
<7> Herzen has ablative shielding today ;)
<4> no i respect the fact that he sets **** straight heh
<4> solid verifiable evidence presended kindly is the best thing in the world, in my opinion
<7> Harsen thats one of the best editorial cartoons I have from 1991....
<7> A bear looking at the gravestone of communism in Russia and he says "Comrade, we have buried you"
<6> fisher, I don't have to, the enemies we face today have taken direct action against the United States and the Western Allies which have resulted in the deaths of citizens from their respective countries, and still possess an idealogy which is completely contrary to our way of life and the livelihood of our citizenry, which is based on economic and social liberty, not social repression and government kleptocracy practiced by the arab stat
<6> Did that all come through?
<1> unions werent welcomed even at their peak, it takes people to spread the message, to protest, to demonstrate at the companies that are abusing their employees
<7> most
<1> same way it started
<8> I love america :) *glances at TheTailor and winks*
<4> haha
<8> LOL
<6> TT is mah man, you better get another one biatch!
<9> PrinCeSa, you are playing with fire.
<8> TT is ur man?
<5> Eh. by the 60's and 70's, unions had become corrupt and ended up damaging the ideal of organized labor
<8> Tailor i like fire
<1> you dont think m***ive demonstration out in front of the local wal mart for example, would put a dent in their business
<1> now imagine doing this for a week
<1> 2 weeks
<8> and i like wal mart.
<1> a month...
<8> i miss wal mart
<10> Why the hell would u protest infront of walmart?
<10> I like walmart too
<1> just an example
<1> it could be any company
<3> unions did that to Meier's -- didn't work
<8> wal mart should be international:P
<7> Prencesa 's a barbie girl....
<8> in a barbie world.
<3> unions protested at Meier's to try and force the employees into a union (that they didn't want to join)
<7> digital plastic...
<5> unions don't have the muscle that they used to. the public has a generally unfavorable view of labor unions (imo)
<4> ironic, i too am a barbie girl in a barbie world
<7> is she fantastic
<11> Prencesa 's a barbie girl in a ken doll world
<8> :P
<1> i think the public likes unions
<7> hey compdoc :)
<10> Katey, I think htats true in certain demographics
<8> I killed ken.
<3> you are strange, bmc
<1> considering a good portion of it belongs to them
<11> what?!!
<10> Katey, Lower-cl*** demographics i'm not sure, but certainly Middle Cl*** and up
<8> Ya caught him cheating
<7> No...Ken caught you cheating...he divorced you
<4> exciting saturday plans: abusing my parents' washing machine and smoking blunts in their gorgeous house all day while they're in california
<11> that bastid
<4> muahahaha
<8> so i burned him alive
<1> highly skilled, trade jobs
<1> all union
<9> bmc, not many belong to them, nothing like in the past.
<1> :P
<7> but you didn't sign a prenup...he took you to cleaners
<11> I would never cheat on you, PrinCeSa
<1> steamfitters
<5> Herzen, eh. lower cl***es tend to vote and espouse conservative ideology nowadays, and that's generally anti-union.
<1> plumbers
<1> all sorts of ****
<5> for the most part, that is
<8> compdoc ofcourse not ur a computer nerd:P
<1> miners
<8> nerds dont have the ability to cheat:P
<11> ha!
<4> unions are counter-productive and encourage laziness
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