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Comments:
<0> oax: see above.
<1> deal given to
<2> My girlfriend's great-great-great-grandfather came to Canada as an indentured servant of the Hudson's Bay Company.
<0> I said that already.
<2> Give or take a "Great"
<3> I also don't buy the stories about slaves being beaten to death and starved. You wouldn't do that to an invest.
<4> some of them were
<1> anyhow. I want everyone's opinion on "we should ahve picked our own cotton". I'll give it a 10 on face value
<5> Chrono-Z: very true.
<3> Just like you wouldn't beat and starve the horse that plowed your field.
<4> there's plenty accounts
<5> Chrono-Z: would you starve your bull? nope.
<0> the point being, the labor needs could have been met other ways
<4> horses been beaten and put down
<1> although I am sure that it is a statement that most KKK members that I would ovtherwise disagree with would give a 100% also
<5> oax: lol
<4> blacks body ***imilates nutrition from crappier diets than a white
<4> and converts into energy
<4> lower body fat
<1> it's fundamentally not a bad comment. but I bert if you were an anchorperson and you asid it on the nightly news, that would be your last night
<4> high fast twitch type ii
<0> no, KK members would say you should have won teh war
<5> oax: well of course.. too PC of a world.
<1> Sublimer but the idea is too ****ing right. ask any liberal what they would think of that comment if spoken fromt he mouth of someone in 1750
<2> "Blacks" refers to a wide variety of body-types.
<4> true
<4> there's about 4 black sub-races
<4> west, east, bushman, niger-congo
<5> white people = MUTS
<5> heh
<1> trot out the phrenology
<4> whites unified those races by lumping them all together in slavery
<3> Muts, but atleast I can drink milk.
<4> that was pretty ****en dumb
<0> so it was a public service ?
<5> Chrono-Z: haha
<5> dinge: which sub race ****ed the chimp?
<4> your grandpappy
<4> jk
<0> lol
<5> haha
<2> Black slaves, especially North American black slaves, were selectively bred to produce a particular body type. Had it been whites select-bred in such a way, we'd display the same characteristics.
<4> dunno what you're talking about
<6> Pickle -- body and coloration -- had two Nigerians I worked with in college (composition tutor) one was blueblack coloration, other was 'light-olive tone coloration - first was big tall, broad shoulder, latter was short, fine features...
<5> dinge: some early humans cross breed with chimps.
<4> Pickle: that's a social myth that's been refuted
<5> dinge: hince africa.
<4> blacks have lower fat content, high adipose tissue including abundance of type ii fast twitch muscle fibers
<2> dinge: It's not a myth. Slaves ceased to be imported into North America long before the institution of slavery was abolished.
<4> whites are fatty, probably harken back to their days on the ice fields of north europe
<1> I don;t think it's truye that US blacks have average lower body fat content
<6> dinge -- Pickle is correct
<4> yes but they didn't cease having ***
<4> most slaves were from west africa
<4> which is the strongest, least endurance race in africa
<5> Pickle: same mindset as well?
<0> "eugenics" was done with slaves... for a few hundred years, selecting desired qualities
<4> highly efficient for short bursts of energy, minimal endurance,
<0> I don't know how much effect it had, but it was done
<2> Sublimer: It's not politically correct to say, but yes, temperment was part of the selective breeding process.
<4> all the top marathon runners in the world are kalanjin from the rift valley
<4> myth: busted
<1> Pickle it onyh makes sense. slaves were treated very much like dogs or horses
<6> OK who the frick is this trying to utilize an offbeat spelling of my nick?
<4> most of the social political correct explanations arent real
<5> pickle: if you haven't noticed.. this isn't a very PC topic.. and its great.. everyone is being honest and open.. too bad we as americans can't do this.. cause too many people get offended.
<4> history is what it is
<4> no reason to try to distort it for personal biases
<4> doesn't really matter to me
<6> obviously
<4> east and sourthern african blacks made ineffective slaves historically
<1> dinge why
<2> The difference is that it wasn't nearly as exact a science as dog-breeding. Even the most cruel of slavemasters wasn't likely to "cull" slaves that didn't meet the ideal, and unauthorized reproduction did occur. However, certain traits were encouraged.
<4> physical makeup
<4> not built for what was needed
<1> dinge there is a story that blacks weren't even very far south by the time whites colonized south africa
<6> the African blacks made other African blacks as slaves - they sold those slaves to a lucrative market
<4> Kaliuna: they didn't have much choice
<6> ha
<7> The were mostly pows
<4> thats another get out of jail line by white revisionists
<7> Of some tribal war
<8> hi
<4> africa didn't have the infrastructure to withstand the economic demand for powerful black slaves
<1> Kaliuna of course. i hope that isn't an attempt at rationalizing western behavior. "THEY enslaved the slves. we're just going along with it..."
<6> tribes fought each other, whoever lost became slaves...
<4> oax: thats actually what it is, every time
<7> And its not like slaverly wasnt new to them.
<6> oax - cheap labor --
<7> The have been diong it as well.
<4> Kaliuna is basically saying blacks wanted to be slaves
<4> all races have sold each other into slavery
<6> dinge -- bull****
<1> well we had slaves in N. AMerica before africans
<4> no race is built for agrarian work like west africans
<6> oax - yes we did
<4> all races have spend some period in history in bond of one or another sort
<4> whether 10 yrs or 100
<4> whites can't do the work
<4> east africans can't do the work
<1> there was a practice of using aborigninal americans (indians) as slaves. but peope protested (esp. the catholic church). and suggested rather we should use africans
<0> you just have to beat the whites more
<4> khoikhoi can't do the work
<0> that's a joke, son!
<4> lol
<1> so there were some enlightneed folks that prefered one race over ther other
<5> i dunno.. if i were black.. i would be happy in some way that slavery happened.. because if not.. they would be in africa, starving, have AIDS, malnutrion, dead, etc.
<6> oax -- and do not forget bond servants -- slves..
<5> am i wrong to think that?
<1> Kaliuna those poeple got out
<4> no
<7> But...
<7> There is a flaw to that...
<1> Kaliuna qualitatively different
<4> history is what it is
<7> IN the brazillain plantations....
<4> black unemployment in the US is 11%
<7> THey were dying off.
<4> that is by far the record in the world
<7> The indians.
<6> oax -- eventually -- but not all -- took many years for some
<7> SO they swticthed becasue the were about to kill off the nativs in brazila area.
<5> dinge: excluding africa of course.
<1> the fact that ROME said that maybe native americans were not appropropriate as slaves, but perhaps afriacans were cool. that's wild..
<4> black unemployment in africa is a lot higher
<4> as high as 60,70%
<4> no including africa
<5> those people die in droves.
<7> And the blacks had been immune to the diseases the natives had been ding of.
<4> africa is the horn of evolution
<7> 8dieing of
<4> everything happens there in overdrive
<5> dinge: ah you mean.. lowest unemployment of blacks.
<4> yes
<2> Heh. I love this Chevy HHR commercial.
<1> Sublimer are you black ?
<2> "Help a brother out, yo."
<4> no
<5> oax: nope.
<5> i'm a whitey.
<5> heh
<7> What is it?
<7> Teh commercial.
<1> Sublimer how do you think your life would be different if you were black, or is that even a valid question ?
<4> he's a nervous white guy like the rest of us
<4> ;>
<7> Whats the chevy hhr commercial?
<9> Yo ho.
<8> are you discussing rascism? rascism, imho, has been replaced by cl***ism
<5> oax: well depends.. more than likely grow up poor, but if i were to have the same drive and mindset i have.. and be black.. i would try to make something of myself.. think positive..
<8> at least in usa
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