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<0> not even close. but nice, for what it is.
<1> I liked West Virginia
<2> Hemi: them's fightin' words!!
<3> I live close enough to a NASCAR race track to hear the noise of the cars when there's a race in town
<4> hahah OcDoc
<4> hahaha yeap
<5> timur would rather meet in some modern art gallery, hang around "cultured people" who wear no deoderant, do nto shave their arm pits and do lines of coke while discussing jackson polluck's latest technique of using projectile-vomit to paint.
<4> but i will fight for them
<0> Katey: gah
<0> Lup: no, deoderant is really important.
<3> I can't imagine any circumstance that would have me at one of those races though
<3> :)
<6> so who here has World Cup Fever?
<4> i have climed them
<0> and I never liked Jackson Pollock's work.
<4> they are the most beautiful



<4> i don't care
<3> Pollack
<5> Timur: uncivilized people use deoderant.. you are only a semi-stuckup snob :-)
<2> underarm deoderant is the grease that makes the wheels of society turn
<0> Lup: yep, I have standards. :)
<2> do you like THAT image?
<4> you can take your stupid ***ed grand canyon and keep it
<1> I am a huge fan of Turner's paintings
<1> have his "Fighting Temeraire" as the wallpaper on my Windows desktop
<7> What's about this "candid" email from Dubya to Browny just after Katrina hit?
<0> Turner was fantastic. There's a good # of them in the Frick Collection in NYC
<2> Swigert: 18th century turner?
<3> I'm a big fan of Edward Hopper
<4> Swigert which reminds me of a point
<0> Hopper's great too
<3> He's my favorite American painter
<1> ocdoc: well early 19th
<2> the TATE Gallery in London is chock full of Turner
<0> and Van der Meer (?sp)
<4> the Remington museum?
<1> 426: what about it?
<5> Timur: I would rather live on a huge ranch in say, Montana, with the mountains in the background.. as long as I had my own private Leer, so I could go anywhere I wanted..
<3> Timur, yeah. the Dutch
<2> Swigert: ah ... my mistake
<4> has THE most expensive American art in it
<1> Vermeer
<3> Timur, great with light
<0> Katey: rockin
<4> most of it which is based on ADIRONDACKS
<1> The National Gallery in London rocks - but I want to see the Louve
<4> *cough*
<0> Lup: I wouldn't mind that as a getaway place, but I'd prefer having a rooftop condo on Central Park :)
<3> But I also think Hopper's use of light is beautiful
<2> the girl with the pearl earring
<2> the milk maid
<1> ocdoc: great film
<1> and a great painting
<5> timur: NYC is great if you have ***inine loads of money.
<3> captures the charm of urban life in his city oriented paintings
<2> yessir
<7> man
<8> Sir are you sure the Apt your moving into is in Fort Worth ???
<7> middle east gonna go to **** now
<0> if you guuys come to Philly, there's a huge private art collection that's being moved (quite controversial because it's against the will of the deceased former owner)
<5> rooftop condo on central park would be what.. $15million to start?
<7> hamas calls off truce w/ israel
<2> there's a show called the double image at the EMP in Seattle currently ... gotta go see it
<0> the Barnes Foundation
<2> HATE to go into Seattle for any reason tho
<0> L0c0, they were firing rockets every day. There was no truce.
<2> Loco: what truce? rofl
<5> OH DAMN!!!! The US *DID* use "illegal warrantless wiretaps" to kill Zarqawi!!!!
<5> Intelligence from cell phone technology helped U.S. forces find and kill Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, said an Iraqi army colonel in an exclusive interview with CNN. Col. Dhiya Tamimi said he worked with U.S. forces to monitor al-Zarqawi and his ***ociates' cell phones, helping to lead to Wednesday night's airstrike on a safe house near Baquba.
<7> Timur: well, officially hehe
<2> Loco: they only made the truce so they could call it off
<6> you mean the mid-east wasn't a **** hole already?
<7> think we're gonna start to see more terror bombings
<0> well, their 'official' pronouncements usually are the opposite of what they actually do
<1> lupine: he should take his case to the UN. 2 flaws: 1) the UN is useless; 2) he is dead.
<2> Lupine: that could be disinformation, tho
<9> l0c0 no more than usual.



<0> L0c0: or not. A lot of people have been caught with explosives attempting to do such bombings over the recent weeks.
<2> Swigert: you can file on his behalf tho if you like
<9> a ****LOAD have been caught since hamas got to power. you just never hear about it.
<0> i.e. the 'truce' hasn't meant jack in terms of their continued attempts. And there's a systemic response
<0> lapointe: exactly
<0> unless one reads the Israeli media, of course.
<9> hamas has been contributing everything to the terror scene in israel, besides manpower
<9> and god knows the last thing the palestinians missing is people willing to blow themselves up
<9> so, nothing will change.
<5> WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Rep. John Murtha, an outspoken opponent of the war in Iraq, announced Friday that he would run for majority leader if the Democrats take over the House in the fall elections.
<5> "If we prevail as I hope and know we will, and return to the majority this next Congress, I have decided to run for the open seat of the majority leader," Murtha said in a letter to his Democratic colleagues.
<2> Timur: that's like the local papers reporting billions of dollars of drugs captured in raids
<2> Lupine: lots of "ifs" there
<1> ocdoc: funny you mentiont hat - I'm going to visit the UN next week
<0> Oc: I guess, except the intent of drug sellers is to make money, whereas the intent of suicide bombers is to kill as many innocent civilians as possible.
<0> anyway, re: Barnes Foundation - http://www.barnesfoundation.org/ed_c_highlights.html
<5> ocdoc: it's hysterical he is announcing it now.. trying desperately to get the limelight back from the Zarqawi story
<0> just a sample.
<2> Timur: that's not my point ... the point was reporting it locally
<2> Lupine: I suppose so .. hysterical I mean
<0> Oc: understood
<2> Timur: I wasn't trying to equate them
<0> some important similarities and differences both
<0> ok! :)
<5> Timur: one thing that I have rarely liked about most art galleries is.. they often just stick it on a wall.. without any real thought of how that work "fits in" to the entire scene
<2> Timur: but the local cops have to justify their paychecks ;-)
<1> lupine: heh true
<0> Lup: such is not the case at Barnes, who placed each painting quite deliberately throughout his (rather impressive) mansion
<0> The Museum displays works of several painters, including Paul Czanne, George de Chirico, Paul Gauguin, El Greco, Francisco Goya, Edouard Manet, Henri Matisse, Amedeo Modigliani, Claude Monet, Pablo Pic***o, Pierre-Auguste Renoir, Maurice Utrillo, Vincent Van Gogh.
<5> timur: yea, that sounds like something I can enjoy alot more.
<1> Timur: ever heard of Kenneth Clark?
<0> Swig: hm.. no, sorry, not to my recollection
<2> http://www.doubletakeexhibit.org/visit/index.asp?pg=dr <= double take art exhibit at the Experience Music Project
<0> Lup: not only that, one can only go by appointment, so it's relatively quiet and uncrowded
<0> and he has beautiful gardens outside as well
<2> DoubleTake: From Monet to Lichtenstein Overview
<5> timur: I really like um.. "preserved" rooms..
<1> timur: British art historian, wrote and narrated a 1969 BBC documentary on art. SImply fabulous. Coming to DVD at the end of this month. I have the tapes and it is worth every penny.
<0> http://www.barnesfoundation.org/ed_a_garden.html
<5> where you see the entire room as it were.. from the wall coverings, rugs etc.. to the furnature
<0> Lup: same!
<2> Whether you are an aficionado, or interested in exploring fine master works for the first time, DoubleTake: From Monet to Lichtenstein allows you to experience art in a whole new way!
<0> the Phila Museum of Art has some incredible ones.
<1> YES! the PMA is a wonder. Wish I had time to see it on this trip.
<2> DoubleTake: From Monet to Lichtenstein explores this cultural phenomenon by pairing Impressionist and Post-Impressionist paintings with works by leading 20th-century artists all from the private collection of Paul Allen
<0> Lup: http://www.philamuseum.org/collections/216-416-287.html
<2> These pairings include Impressionist and Post-Impressionist works from masters such as Claude Monet, Pierre-Auguste Renoir, Edgar Dgas and Vincent van Gogh with modern and contemporary works from such artists as Pablo Pic***o, Mark Rothko, Jasper Johns and Roy Lichtenstein.
<0> Swig: if you do, it's free on Sundays before 1 pm
<5> timur: and I absolutely love science/technology.. such as Edison's work labs, etc
<2> I wonder how they paired them? theme?
<0> Monet = good, Lichtenstein = cheesy :)
<5> Lichtenstein.. wasn't he the comic book guy?
<2> Timur: well, I want to see what they thought the paired works had in common
<10> Licthenstein is a country
<1> timur: sorry wish I could - maybe next time. Also like to go get a real cheesesteak from Pats AND Gino's :)
<2> I love impressionism ... modern I'm not so hot about
<10> south of germany!
<0> Swig: better to go to Jim's on South St., or Ralph's on Oregon Ave. :)
<3> that's where I will retire
<3> some insignificant nation
<0> Oc: they're painted on canvas.. other than that.. :)
<1> timur: why not all 4 :)
<2> my grandma used to live on 76th street in Manhattan I used to LOVE visiting her and walking all over or taking the subway
<1> I had one in Trenton - very tasty
<2> Timur: hah
<1> everything else is fake
<2> Timur: well, then ... I'll simply enjoy the impressionists and ignore the modern
<0> Swig: well, some are better than others! the recent controversy here is that Geno's has a sign asking customers to order in English; the area has a lot of recent Mexican immigrants
<0> http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/14780002.htm
<3> I visited NYC when I was 11. My dad took me along on a business trip. While we were there, a p***enger airplane nearly hit the World Trade Center
<3> no lie
<1> timur: next summer, I might go see the Hermitage in St. Petersburg.


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