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<0> People can have titles and claim to be things, But in a court of law if they fit the definition legally they will discount it.
<0> brb
<1> traitor!!!
<1> resin tomahawk :P
<2> xtor: so if i lived in a big city, were poor and were white, it would be acceptable... and expected for me to commit violent crime?
<3> buhahahaha
<4> Zaw the thing is that in cities like Moscow which are 99% white. You have 90% of the viloent crime occuring in large cities, they dont have any blacks there at all. But are large cities crime free? No. Do you see my point?
<2> "it's not his fault, he lives in a large city and is poor!"
<0> back.
<5> The French Government has announced its surrender to a few school children, details at 11.
<1> Urban pestholes foster crime by their very nature
<0> Biff, Please, that woman is such a police state activist she makes me sick.
<2> xtor: yes! now you see my point! you have 90% of violent crime in a 99% white city being committed by whites. go figure. that makes total sense. now you have a city that is 50% black, and 88% of the crimes being committed in that city are by blacks. that's insanely disproportionate.
<1> Lupine...whats new??
<4> Zaw i didnt say it was acceptable...I just said that a large city would push ANY PERSON to commit violent crime because of the way they were raised. Now if you have 50% of large cities being black I think that is a bit unfair to say that blacks are the cause of urban violence. Rather..its more complicated. Yes they are more likely to be violent but the root causes are much more than genetic or social(related to race) tendencies is what Im s
<0> This is the woman who would have a cop in every home if she had her way.
<6> Freed0m i dont think so
<5> cry: their retreat on labor reform
<6> thats a gross mischaracterization
<1> Lupine,..they will soon figure it out...
<7> Freed0m: what do you do for work?
<6> meanwhile you ignore the photos
<5> xtor: bull****, it does not "push any person" to commite violent crime.
<1> they are running out of room to retreat
<4> Zaw thats disproportionate but Im saying that its NOT as disproportionate as you think...that there are a lot more forces at work here than just ethnic background.
<6> what do you think the people who carried those signs want, Freed0m
<2> xtor: race is culture gone to seed.
<8> a cop in every home? fine..so long as they do the housework...
<3> I never claimed to have culture!
<5> cry: i thought of going on vacation in paris, and say "i have a gun in my pocket!".. but then I thought.. do I really want to be the absolute ruler of france?
<1> hey DD
<0> She would kill drug users, she would Cane Illegals, She would silence leftists saying horrible things about america despite the 1st amendment she is a far right bombthrowing Conservative.
<8> howdy Cry
<4> Lupine...getting raised in an inner city ghetto with bad education and ****ty peer group support doesnt push someone to become more likely to grow up desparate and hopeless and poor and thus more likely to be a felon? A thief?
<0> I cant stant that anti american witch.
<1> Lupine...lol good one
<6> Freed0m youjust made that all up
<0> biff, Ive seen her speek at least 20 times.
<0> speak even
<0> She is a far right extremist like you.
<5> xtor: the individual willfully chooses to become a criminal. he has no one to blame, but himself.
<6> just googled and cant find one reference of her advocating killing drug users
<9> yeh, someone can see through the bull****
<1> Lupine thats a quotable
<10> freed0m: who? ann coulter?
<9> Braves ****
<2> xtor: exactly. you reap what you sow. race is culture gone to seed. it is what it is.
<4> Lupine yes but its also a fact that those who have the privilege of a better upbringing are MUCH LESS LIKELY to commit felonies and be violent.
<0> I cant stand Ward Churchill, or anything he said, And I think he should be fired from academia for his fraudlent claim of being an INdian which is why he was hired.. But I defend his right to say ugly horrible things to my grave.
<9> Go Yankees Go!
<5> xtor: i can accept an arguement that a starving person might steal a loaf of bread. and even then, he should be honest with himsself, and admit he stole it.
<6> Freed0m also googled michelle malkin cane and didnt find her advocating caning anyone
<5> xtor: there are plenty of dirt-poor parents who teach their children to behave.
<9> Braves fans should be censored ;)
<3> 426-Hemi: OMG
<0> And in fact our soldiers who I love with all my heart, are fighting in Part for freedom of speech and the constitution of the United states.
<6> in other words Freed0m you're willing to make up wild charges against people you dont' like
<11> did you know that if you type 'failure' into google......george bush will pop up
<11> :>0
<5> this ****ing society.. they said the 80s was the "me generation".. well ****, we're now in the "not me" generation.
<4> Zaw you miss my point though...theres a lot of people trapped in that cycle that dont deserve to be there, if they had grown up in a better environment they wouldnt be ghetto thugs.
<0> Dissent is as american as apple pie.
<3> muhahah
<0> No matter how much Ihate what they say
<5> xtor: there is no excuse to be a "ghetto thug"
<2> Lupine: yes. i'm sick of people looking for excuses due to social cl***es. "he's poor so naturally he's going to be a thief and a murderer". just because you're poor doesn't mean you can't teach your kids right, unless you don't give a rat's ***. culture gone to seed.
<0> biff, I know you, we have locked horns many times.
<12> haha someone won the powerball but lost their ticket
<1> haha
<4> Lupine yes and the kids of those parents are lucky. But is it a fault of an inner city ghetto baby if his dad dies before he is born and his only mentors are thugs down the hall when he grows up?
<12> thats gotta ****
<1> bbiab peeps :)
<5> xtor: he may not be able to get a fancy, high brow job.. but he can do an honest days labor
<2> xtor: you miss my point as well, apparantly. it is what it is. culture gone to seed.
<9> Publius? lying on your back with your legs spread is NOT a job!
<0> I also know the woman you mentioned whose last name I cant spell, real well.
<5> xtor: it's his fault for hanging around thugs, instead of studying for school.
<0> Malkin or whatever
<6> Freed0m them you havent learned not to make stuff up
<2> Lupine: exactly. or having his parents beat him for trying to live a dishonest life.
<6> because i will call you on it every time Freed0m
<0> Ive seen her diatribe too many times.
<9> Publius is the water boy for the Atlanta Braves
<7> free whatchu do for work?
<4> Zaw I dont miss your point but Im saying that these people have it a lot harder than the rest of society...so while its their fault its not ENTIRELY their fault.
<0> Biff, What did I make up.
<7> err do you?
<0> Tell me what I made up ?
<0> WHat ?
<6> Freed0m i cant find one reference on the www
<0> YOu are not far right ?
<5> xtor: there is no excuse for violent criminal actions
<9> ohh yes, if its not on the internet IT must not exist!
<13> if you are poor in america, Yes, it is YOUR fault.
<0> You sure as hell aint even close to a centrist.
<9> heh
<3> LMAO
<3> I am not!
<0> Rebec! :)
<5> xtor: there are plenty of law abiding folk who came from dirty poor areas
<0> biff, Tell me where I lied ?
<6> <0> She would kill drug users, she would Cane Illegals, She would silence leftists
<6> saying horrible things about america despite the 1st amendment she is a far
<6> right bombthrowing Conservative.
<4> Lupine it is his fault yes but his crime is being weak and underpriveleged. It takes more strength to overcome that background and I dont think it comes naturally to 100% of any ethnic group.
<6> you made that stuff up Freed0m
<6> all of it
<3> 426-Hemi: besta watch yourself sir
<0> Biff, Thats not a lie, thats a polemic.
<9> the inteligence is b1ffling
<9> er i mean BAFFLING
<5> xtor: doesn' take must strenght at all to simply not commit violent crimes
<0> Its an exageration which is not too far from the truth.
<6> sure it is - very far
<3> c
<3> lol
<2> xtor: bull****. it's entirely their fault. they are simply an organism spawned by two parent organisms. they are given the same tools as the rest of humans. they make choices to live destructive life styles. do you think it was easy for the Poles to live dirt floor poor in coal mining communities? they could have gone out robbing and stealing and had it easier, they chose not to.
<13> I am all for silencing Donkeys
<9> yes any sarcasm that you may use b1ff will use it against you that you "lied"
<14> Where is the contradiction about saying horrible things about America despite the 1st amendment?
<6> if she said something which was actually offensive you would have cited it - instead you made **** up
<7> oh forget it then
<4> Lupine yes there are and my point is there are plenty of law abiding black, mexican and other non white folk who come from dirty poor areas. But the ones who get caught in that mess were just weak. If those same weaklings had grown up in burns they might not grow up to be gangsters
<7> bbl
<14> You don't think a free society can do horrible things?
<9> he likes to cherry pick peoples statements
<6> cherry pick? no, i quote in entirety
<14> Well, here's a wake up call; it can, and it does. Repeatedly, just like everyone else.
<0> The point is she is an extremist who never sees any common ground, her views are outside the mainstream of america, She is whipping up peoples emotions and demogoging POlitical issues.
<14> America isn't magically excempt from ****ing up from time to tiem.
<14> time.
<14> Well.
<9> you quote obvious exagerations and sarcasm b1ff, so go **** yourself
<14> The entire concept of "anti-American" is an oxymoron.
<6> Freed0m if shes so far outside the mainstream and a total extremist who is she whipping up?
<0> biff, I said it was an exageration that should of been obvious
<6> 12 people?
<0> I was making a point.
<15> devoice the commie
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