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<0> it'd be nice if statements made about me at least attempted to be credible. :)
<1> the dollar now might as well be printed on Weimar Deutchmark paper
<1> as I have said for a long long long long time. long before the dit com crash: I keep a good 10% of my holdings AT ALL TIMES in gold
<2> depreciation is something that is going to happen anyway there is nothing we can do
<3> Timur, it would be nice if you didnt act like a prick everytime a middle east issue came up.
<1> currently it is a bit MORE then 10%
<3> Good your hatred of arabs is acid.
<2> except if we decide to go to a planned economy we might be able to sustain the dollar
<0> I didn't, I just discussed an issue factually, without even calling names
<3> GOD not good
<0> except it doesn't exist
<3> GOD your hatred of Arabs
<0> so
<3> at times
<3> For you its more of an abstraction
<3> Yo could like an arab individuals
<0> no, it's a potent reality
<0> which I studied
<1> zero the market is the best govonor of currency. Currently, government deficit spending is what drives its downard movement
<0> which I live by going to conferences and to Israel and other ways
<0> so
<0> forget that. :)
<3> but in an abstraction they are the evil ones, the klingons
<0> at times, sure
<3> Precisely because you are so Israeli you are biased and you are unable to see the situation from the perspective of an outsider looking in
<3> Though I know Israelis who do understandd it from the outside looking in, Like my fathers roomate in law school.
<3> He understand it.
<0> I'm not Israeli, tho, dude.
<4> jeg sitter og driter litt
<0> I'm American. I have one citizenship.
<4> sorry, wrong
<0> and I didn't get money from the Saudis
<3> Timur, you told me you were dual
<0> so you're more Arab than I am Israeli I guess
<0> no, I didn't
<5> hey guys, any of you know what a glory certificate was
<0> and I'm not.
<6> stoppit
<3> Well regardless you identify heavily with the israelis, do yo deny that ? IN fact are they not your people ?
<7> like a war bond?
<0> I have a lotta people
<5> ive been tring to research on glory certificate, but i cant find anything on it
<0> think Vennn diagram
<8> lol
<3> The dutch are not my people and yet their blood flows through my veins, nor are the Irish whose blood also flows through my vein.
<5> do you know any country that was given that glory certificate
<3> I have absolute objectivity in my favor.
<6> heh, I think TImur is far more open minded towards arabs than a few republican stalwarts in my state
<3> Since I have no dog in the fight
<3> and you do.
<0> except Saudi Arabia
<0> you love them
<3> See you constantly bring up the fact that I like some saudis.
<5> alton - you know of any country that was given that certifict
<3> YOu make that sound like a ****ing crime
<0> you brought it up
<3> I also like a lot of jews
<0> I'm just repeating it
<3> No YOu bring up Saudi Arabia
<6> FreeMrkt: may I make a defense for Timur here?
<0> you also brought up the money they gtave yuo
<0> so
<7> BenGurion had an interesting quote on Israel--do u know who he was?
<0> I got zero from ISrael, bastards
<9> FreeMrkts, so what does your cousin do in nuclear physics? theoretical?
<0> they owe me
<0> !
<3> Before just now, I never said a word about Saudi arabia in probabaly at least a weak.
<3> week
<7> nope I don't know of that certificate
<5> k
<0> no, it's not a crime, but it does kinda counter the idea that you have no dog in the fight
<5> thanks anyway
<3> YOu ****ign pounced on saudi arabia and brought it up when it wasnt even relevant to my statement.
<0> I saw that statement about 2 months ago
<3> And then you reffered to them more or less as my friends the saudis.
<0> it's relevant, re: dog in the fight
<6> heh, frankly this is just like a partisan bicker between Harry Reid and Bill Frist..neither one of you are exhibiting what the other is accusing them of
<3> Goddamn Right I have saudi friends.
<3> So what
<10> You say "I have saudi friends.. and I have jew friends"
<0> but never mind, in any case, you're not right about enough things that it's kind of a silly argument in toto
<3> I have no dog in the fight
<10> isn't that bias, comparing "jews" to "saudis" rather than "israelis" to "saudis" ?
<3> I have Saudi Friends, morrocan friends and mostly jewish friends..
<6> heh
<3> Since Berkeley is about 30% Jewish.
<6> gentlemen, heh,
<10> are any of your friends black illegal hispanic aliens?
<3> You brought up a nasty ****ing jobe to get me into a debate with you which was nonsensical..
<3> I was speaking about something you didnt even understand.
<11> 30% ?!?
<3> Or you couldnt grasp
<6> This is not something either one of you are characteristic of doign
<6> or allowing others to do
<0> I'm glad you have a lot of friends, but that still isn't relevant to 1. your misunderstanding that I'm only a US citizen, and not a dual one; and 2. that by saying that Shi'a militias are mistreating Sunni Arabs, that that somehow makes me anti-Arab, which is ridiculous on multiple levels simultaneously.
<3> Maybe you dont even know what restraint is.
<3> Timur, If you cant act mature, just shut up.
<3> Sometimes I feel like I dealing with a little kid.
<0> I wouldn't call m*** killings of people in secret locations great restraint, but it's more restrained than all-out civil war, sure
<10> Timur-: are you anti-arab?
<3> Hell Publius understood it better than you and he is only about 18
<0> it's not a question of maturity, but of being at least partially logical
<6> FreeMrkt: heh, I don't mean to sound like a jerk but you both are acting like kids with this
<3> Timur, the m*** killings are primarily sunni on shia.
<0> he might've understood your intent, but I'm going by what was said
<3> This is what all reports are reporting.
<0> are they?
<6> how long has you two been battling over each others suppose opinion?
<6> grr
<7> American Jailers--undies on head, Arab jailers--head removed
<11> Publius if you could move anywhere in the states where would you go?
<0> Until now, the Sunni-led insurgency was seen as the greatest threat to US plans in Iraq, killing hundreds and at times more than 1,000 Iraqi civilians per month. But the new figures suggest that the Shi'ite militias, loyal to powerful Shi'ite politicians, are poised to become as great a threat to Iraq's security.
<3> Ofcourse there are some retaliations but if someone bombed the **** out of my neighborhood i would be starting up a war party to go kill them.. the shias in those districts being hit are using amazing restraing.
<0> http://www.boston.com/news/world/articles/2006/04/02/iraq_militias_wave_of_death/
<6> bud: dc in theory, but I like here now
<11> why d.c.
<10> it looks like both of you are trying to dictate the true opinion of the other.. "you hate arabs, I know it!" "no, you, it is you who is a jew-hater!" ... it's pointless to debate like this, isn't it?
<6> bud: the place I intend to work at someday
<0> and what you consider 'amazing restraint' is what I consider 'not as much restraint as might be implied, given the activities of Shi'a militias'
<3> I saw on the news today a Shia leader telling his people who came to him for guidance to not retaliate, he explained it was al queda attempting to destroy the country by fomenting a civil war.
<0> e-Hernick: it is, which is why I'm debating facts
<0> not some bizarro accusations without basis
<11> im gonna move. no idea where yet
<6> bud: oh, come to Gwinnett County Georgia
<3> So again, I reiterate for all intelligent people, The shias in Iraq have used AMAZING restraing considering the provocations.
<11> Publius what's there
<10> Timur-: what are you arguing for anyway? Can you state the thesis of your argument ?
<12> Calls for non-retaliation aren't going to work. What the Shi'ite leaders need to do is call for the militias to work with official security forces, and the central government needs to act to facilitate this.
<3> And the Iraqi military which is getting a hell of a lot better is sunni and shia fighting side by side and have good discipline.
<6> Timur: have you made the opinion that the Iraqi people would will not be able to form a democracy and hold together?
<3> Pickle, that is what everyone is saying.
<7> Forced to choose between Arab actions and Israeli action I would say they ****
<3> IN the meantime they need retraint
<6> I don't know of one at all
<3> we may be days before the emp*** in goverment,shias I believe are meeting today to try to deal with their candidate
<3> Aojofi or whatever his name is.
<10> people meet every day
<0> e-HErnick: my thesis is that the 'restraint' being supposedly exercised is more restrained than all-out civil war, but not as restrained as might be implied, given that they are the majority and in control of most of the military and police in Iraq
<11> democracy is absolutely possible. the biggest threat to it is the weenies in the u.s.a. and other places who think it's supposed to be acheived within one election cycle
<3> I am impressed by this restraint. I have seen few people with such restraint despite the minority that timue is talking about who are retaliating
<0> Pub: depends what you mean by 'Iraqi people'; if you mean Shi'a, then that's possible; but if you mean all 3 major groups, then no
<10> Timur-: so, you say that the iraqi shi'ites are too agressive and violent towards the iraqi sunnis?
<6> Timur: I mean the Iraqi people as a total. With Shia majority and other groups existing
<6> a real democracy
<3> The police officers are the unstable part of the law enforcement, every indication is the new Iraqi Army with SUnnis and and shias are working as one.
<10> and that they should lower their level of violence and retaliation?
<0> Pub: that's an artificial notion; there really is no, and never was, 'an Iraqi people' but several peoples in Iraq, the 3 major groups among them.
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