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<0> i don't here you saying "Pull the troops home from Korea !!!"
<1> they get plenty of coverage of pat tillman's murder
<1> thats it though
<2> Herz: right; one questions if it's a matter of lack of demand, a policy decision, both, or what
<3> Sweden has 1100, the majority of the EU force, with 400 ISAF forces
<1> what would you define as a stable afghanistan, the way the people in that country live, breeds instability
<4> Rusty, right and Canada is sitting at 2300?
<3> yeh , i believe so
<1> send over some jesuit priests and do some conversions
<3> plus tere is the Afghan army themselves
<3> there
<1> what do you think herzen.. send in the jesuits, like old times
<4> It follows last year's presidential election, in which 8 million Afghans 40 percent of them women chose moderation and democracy over extremism and tyranny.
<4> The result, today, is a country where annual economic growth has been above 20 percent since January of 2002, with a stable currency and rising foreign direct investment; more than 4.8 million children are enrolled in school, the largest number in Afghan history;
<4> about 95 percent of known heavy weapons have been collected by proper authorities; some 60,000 militia forces are disarmed and demobilized; the Afghan national army and the Afghan national police are growing by the thousands;
<4> and President Hamid Karzai's "Strengthening Peace" program is reducing the power of warlords and convincing once hostile elements to disarm and join in Afghanistan's political and economic progress.
<4> The most demonstrable sign of progress, perhaps, is that Afghans are voting with their feet. Some .6 million refugees have returned to Afghanistan possibly the largest repatriation operation in history.
<3> hehehe Herzen, but Afghanistan is a quagmire, thats the problem with democrats these days, everything is a quagmire, notice they don't say a freakin word about Bosnia/Kosovo thier precious Clinton got us involved with
<5> yeah
<4> But in the country where a violent theocracy had bankrupted their nation, brutalized their people, and harbored the planners of Sept. 11, 2001 in the country once infamous for beatings, bombings and beheadings Afghanistan is now a nation that protects women and imprisons terrorists, rather than protecting terrorists and imprisoning women.
<5> even that guy on family guy is a quagmire
<5> its a damned shame
<3> hahah
<4> I'm content with td-'s silence
<3> my god the media has gone way overboard with this Ka-Ka Couric crap
<0> He will bring it back up again in a day or two, then again next week, the next, the next....
<6> you just dont want a female anchor hemi!
<6> you ***ist!
<6> hehe
<2> Rusty: that's the traditional and bankrupt view of isolationism
<2> which we all are entitled to duly ignore
<3> heehe i don't care that she's a chick
<3> its just replacing one lying piece of **** with another
<4> I wouldn't want to live in a country whose policy was to never fight foreign wars for fear of 'quagmire'
<2> Herz: that country would quickly lose any international credibility and respect, not to mention effectivenes
<2> +S
<7> Herzen -- Does this country send enough troops to win the war and fight it correctly
<3> I have been wondering how long it would take for the lefties to come out of the closet on Afghanistan
<3> they are better off just handing Afghanistan to Taliban and Al-Qaeda
<7> `426Hemi -- If you do not fight to win, that could be true
<7> Steps toward democracy in the Middle East are slowing, blocked by legal maneuvers and official changes of heart.
<2> Rusty: it's the Wilsonian view - if it's native, it's ok
<8> official changes of heart
<7> political rise of Islamists, the chaos in Iraq, the newfound Shiite power in Iraq with its implication for growing Iranian influence
<7> Iran is the only winner of the Iraq war
<8> lol
<6> heh... i was all for going into afghanistan
<9> Bush lied, Valerie cried.
<8> keep saying it..
<3> i wished they would play more footage of what the french people did to Nazi collaborators at the end of WW2
<2> no, the West is the winner
<4> The only way Iran wins the Iraq War
<6> the taliban had ta go.. but i was saying we should take out the taliban long before 9/11
<9> Timur-: California?
<4> is if US forces pull out prematurely
<2> the Western World.
<4> like the Dems and other leftists want them too
<9> o i c :)
<2> Herz: just so
<7> everything is going back to the bad old days, as if we never went through any changes at all
<3> fonebone, the taliban in my opinion should have been taken out when they destroyed those bhuddist statues
<6> i agree hemi
<3> freakin idiots
<9> Timur-: What did we win, a bunch of biting flies?
<9> ouch
<6> thats about when i started saying they were insane
<9> one just bit me!
<8> AAAman wanting that to happen, as in your case, does not mean it is happening
<7> no serious or genuine belief in change from the governments
<2> no, we won the benefits of force projection and proper intimidation
<9> Timur-: I only caught eight teeny lil fishes :(
<2> like Libya giving up its WMDs and Syria getting out of Lebanon (mostly)
<2> jhicks: aw
<2> hardly a snack
<4> Timur-, not to mention the humanitarian reasons for going in
<9> too small to eat
<7> promises for reforms have been followed by a harsh crackdown on the opposition
<9> TODAY!
<9> I will murder big fishes
<9> big == > 2 oz
<3> i haven't gone fishing yet this year
<7> You were sold a false bill of goods
<9> `426Hemi: cmon man, let's go!
<3> i am waiting until the crowds die out a bit heh
<9> `426Hemi: you get the beer, i'll get the crickets
<3> crickets???
<9> we're fishing for bluegils
<7> Bush administration made democratization of the Middle East a strategic goal or pie in the sky
<3> er hmmm.... *slaps jhicks around a bit with a fly rod and a caddis nymph*
<4> Fishing season doens't open here until May
<4> May 14th
<9> cork-n-bobber
<0> [20:02] <+AAAman> You were sold a false bill of goods <---- thanks for looking out for all of us !!!
<3> Herzen??? even on trout???
<9> Herzen: damn communists made all those "seasons"
<4> Rusty, there is ice on everything until that time
<4> lol
<3> walleye and pike doesn't open here until 2nd or 3rd saturday in pay
<3> may
<9> Herzen: to keep us from living off the land
<3> HErzen hahaha ohh duh, thats right
<7> Egypt one of the United States' closest allies in the Middle East -- has already double crossed Bush
<9> AAAman: LOOK
<9> AAAman: Just because we give the $3B a year doesn'y mean we LIKE them!
<3> man thats gotta ****, by the time everything is melting, the leaves turn green for a week, then start changing to fall
<4> Look its a pteryodactyl
<4> ARgghhh!
<7> Mubarak has not moved towards Democracy
<9> AAAman: duh!
<7> Saudia Arabia is back to the old ways
<9> AAAman proves my point. The middle east is a swamp that's not drainable
<9> that is all, i'm going to the lake.
<9> woohoo
<9> no work today either!
<3> US Army surp***ing years retention goal
<7> Now we are all upset about immigration.
<9> I'm moving to Mexico next year.
<9> It'll be EMPTY! :)
<9> woohoo
<7> `
<7> `426Hemi April 9 Young Army officers, including growing numbers of captains who leave as soon as their initial commitment is fulfilled, are bailing out of active-duty service at rates that have alarmed senior officers
<9> bud`: we will fight for territory then
<9> I get Acapulco dammit
<2> Herz: right
<2> it's not a swamp; it's mostly desert
<2> and it requires urgent and long-term attention
<10> I think he was speaking figuratively
<9> Timur-: well, lotsa biting flies anyway
<3> DURHAM, N.C. (AP) -- Time-stamped photographs will show an exotic dancer was already injured and "very impaired" when she arrived at a party where she claims she was raped by members of Duke University's men's lacrosse team, an attorney for one of the players said Sunday....
<1> Herzen: what about a government that wants to kill people for changing religion
<9> It's a 'virtual' swamp
<10> jhicks, you ever been to Asateague Island?
<1> you didnt silence me, i had things to do buddyboy
<3> Durham attorney Bill Thomas said some of the photographs, taken when she arrived at the house, indicate the woman was injured before getting to the party March 13. They show extensive bruises and scrapes on her legs, especially around the knees, he said.
<9> Katey-: No, but i've ALWAYS wanted a free horse.
<10> jhicks, well, you have to go to Chincoteague to get the horse
<10> and it's not free. :)
<1> hamid karzai is an evil man
<9> crap
<3> No one has been charged in the case, but the allegations that members of the nearly all-white team raped the woman, a black student at a nearby university, have rocked both Duke and Durham.
<3> er hmmm...
<9> `426Hemi: people **** don't they :(
<2> td: is bad, but not an external threat as such
<3> Several dozen people gathered Sunday outside the house where the party took place, and pledged to return each Sunday until the case is resolved.
<10> jhicks, the volunteer fire dept. on Chincoteague runs em accross from Asateague to Chincoteague and sells some to raise money.
<3> "Whether I want to believe it, or whether you want to believe it, something took place in there," said Johnny Williamson, 36, of Durham. "Something indecent took place."
<3> LOL!
<2> that will change over time, one hopes
<3> doesn't matter if its true or not! Something indecent happened!
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