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<0> gopp -- bull - you obviously know nothing
<1> Without the ability to control our boarders, all this talk about halting immigration in pie in the sky
<2> gopp they should go home
<0> FairTax ya get rid of ILLEGALS -- and it wouldn't be broken
<1> Without the ability to control our boarders, all this talk about halting immigration is pie in the sky
<0> AAA -- good place to start yes
<3> illegal immigration
<4> Kaliuna most illegal don't go out for handsouts
<3> not immigration
<5> AAAman - boarders??? BWAHAHAHAH
<6> I was not aware we wanted to "Halt" Immigration
<4> they work for what they pay for
<1> borders
<7> Kaliuna: you'd have the same problems, just will take longer to break the broken system. you're just sticking your head in the ground; the real problem is a failed welfare state and tax code.
<0> gopp -- you know nothing --
<4> JanetB are you saying all illegals go out for handsouts



<4> Kaliuna I know many illegals
<0> FairTax bullroar
<4> as a hispanic
<8> Normally its the dentist who tells you to open up and say ahh. But for two men arrested on drug violations, it was the feds. And they didnt just want to see whether the suspects had been brushing or not. They were after gold.
<8> Government lawyers had a warrant out for the teeth of Flenard T. Neal Jr. and Donald Jamar Lewis, who are facing several drug and weapons charges, The ***ociated Press reports. Specifically, the feds tried to remove and confiscate gold caps known as "grills" from their mouths.
<4> Kaliuna and theywork dam hard
<3> goppp.. bull they don't they go to hospitals for free and put their kids in our schools for free THATS a hand out
<1> I do not want to empower the Feds to search every home and business for illegals
<4> they hardly go on foodstamps
<5> AAAMan is running a S&M hotel now?
<5> lol
<0> gopp -- and then you should turn them in -- they are ILLEGAL -- they are NOT Americans
<7> Kaliuna: Social Security? heard of it right? it's broke.. and guess what.. illegals did not break it.
<7> maybe.. government ****ed up?
<4> JanetB they avoide hospitals, as adults no they don't go to school most times, they send money back home to send thier kids to school in mexico
<0> FairTax -- quit changing subjects
<6> Government ****ed up? say it ain;t so!
<3> goppp.. your nuts
<4> JanetB I am nuts, yes they breaken a law
<6> was the politicians lips moving?
<3> you have no clue what you are talking about.. it cost me 1k a year for illegals in taxes
<0> goppp ILLEGALS sending money to Mexico -- money that could be earned by LEGAL Americans spending LEGAL money IN the USA
<0> Janet -- if not more!
<4> JanetB but, thier been a study I forget where that said they take far less in goverment handouts
<7> Kaliuna: it's all related; the government can't manage social systems, or our money.
<3> and that is PER PERSON in Az.. so do NOT tell me we are not paying for them times that by 3 million!
<6> Mexico's economy is based in the US.
<1> JanetB -- They do not collect welfare. They pay sales taxes etc
<3> and then tell me how much they are costing me
<6> Mexico is outsourcing.
<9> JanetB: Get out your checkbook!
<4> JanetB are they taking more goverment handouts then legal citzen in urban areas
<1> gopp -- How can they take govt handouts
<7> so.. if we ditched the income tax.. and went just to a sales tax.. illegals would pay taxes..
<0> AAA - and living in places in large numbers -- so they are paying what? little if anyting they send it outcountry
<7> and not burden the system right?
<3> AAAman.... I do not care if they pay sales tax I WISH all I had to pay was sales tax!
<1> Kaliuna -- They pay rent and the property owner in turn pay real estate taxes
<0> FairTax tell that to the BILLIONS of dollars lost in hospitals across this nation -- for ILLEGALS
<4> don't change the question jam
<4> don't change the question JanetB
<4> answer it
<4> JanetB are they taking more goverment handouts then legal citzen in urban areas
<9> Kaliuna: It's not lost. It's spent.
<10> during a time of war it doesn't make sense to leave the border vulnerable.. terrorists aren't going to stop at the fence and say oops this is for mexicans I better get a plane ticket and a boxcutter..
<0> AAA-- ya -- 30 living in a home that should hold 5 max...
<1> JanetB -- If they were legal they would not pay income tax either
<11> whacking towel $5, internet porn $25/month, busting a nut without fear of children or committment... priceless.
<0> MrR -- but not in USA
<7> Kaliuna: gee, what stops hospitals from losing money to deadbeat legals? :)
<4> JanetB also they pay taxes
<4> not just sales taxes
<3> yes.. goppp... any illegal in school is taking a hand out
<4> they pay social security
<3> they do not pay SS.. they are ILLEGAL they get paid under the table
<7> Kaliuna: I know, lets make healthcare mandatory! like MA did! thats the answer! .. socialism! ... **** that.
<4> JanetB are they taking more hands outs, then a legal citzen in a urban area
<3> Illegals do not have SS cards
<0> FairTax -- what will stop it -- hospitals CLOSE -- they p*** along those costs to those who can pay them --
<9> JanetB: I figure any poor person with kids in schools is taking a handout. But, at least they're here legally.
<4> JanetB no they don't they get paid a check and they do pay social security, with fake social cards



<0> goppp - YES they are
<3> goppp how many times do I have to tell you yes
<7> Kaliuna: so let hospitals turn people away, problem solved.
<11> man I hope we never even consider the word SOCIALISM without laughing
<4> Kaliuna prove it
<0> FairTax -- can't and you know it
<7> Kaliuna: why not?
<4> Kaliuna thier been a study that proved
<9> JanetB: Commonly illegals have SS cards and green cards. The better ones cost more but you can buy them in any major city.
<4> they take in less handsouts
<4> far less
<3> goppp.. they do not get a check they get cash
<1> Bush: Grand Theft Pentagon.
<0> goppp I can prove it right in my own home town area where I grew up -- from medicare records, from welfare records
<4> MrRod that is 100% correct
<4> JanetB wrong
<7> Kaliuna: you suggesting government should be involved in healthcare.. p***ing laws to force hospitals to take people for free?
<7> sounds socialist.
<4> JanetB they pay social security with fake social security cards
<3> goppp... don't tell me no... I see it everyday
<7> no sir.. i dont like it...
<0> FairTax -- the gov't IS involved --
<7> Kaliuna: yep :) it is :)
<9> Ok, people. Laundry time!
<4> JanetB and I could say many legal people who get paid under the table
<7> Kaliuna: and if it was not.. we wouldnt have this problem now would we?
<7> Kaliuna: GOVERNMENT created this illegal mess.
<0> FairTax yes we would
<7> not the illegals.
<3> goppp.. what about illegal do you NOT understand?
<4> JanetB I seen many who collected unempolyement, and work under the table
<3> goppp.. what about illegal do you NOT understand?
<4> JanetB illegal is just a term
<0> FairTax -- the ILLEGALS are causing the problem what is it you don't comprehend about ILLEGAL
<4> it means nothing
<3> goppp.. bull
<12> heh, anytime someone starts typing GOVERNMENT in all caps like that you know they're making an ill-thought out ideological argument
<7> illegal is just a word. bah, call em' workers since thats what they are.
<0> goppp - then you are not an AMerican if you don't understand LEGAL
<4> JanetB on paper is has meaning, if they pay social security, sales, and such
<9> JanetB: Illegals feel bad because they're being treated like second-cl*** citizens. ;)
<4> Kaliuna I am I was born and raised in america
<4> I am part of america melting pot
<0> MrR - they should be in their own country - they are ILLEGAL
<3> they are illegals, but I do not see you all screaming to let those legally here, allowed to work NOW! that are waiting for there green cards to work
<4> Kaliuna they should
<4> but they came here
<7> only in america can you get hated for doing work.. heh
<0> goppp you don't act like an American at all
<12> god i can't believe we couldn't even get abill out on this
<4> yes, working a honest job is bad Kaliuna
<12> here it is 1) build a wall, 2) amnesty, 3) increase legal immigration
<12> BOOM
<3> oh no.. they did it legally so put them at the back of the bus and give the ILLEGALS the right to work
<4> Kaliuna you rather support legal american selling drugs
<7> we need the illegals to be like our poor legal citizenry, you know .. lazy and collecting welfare..
<12> that would be a huge step towards fixing it
<0> goppp -- you are full of crap
<7> instead of working.. the bastards!
<4> like all those legal americans selling drugs in urban areas, collectiong welfare
<12> if our politicians weren't all lowest-common demonomator pandering jack***es
<4> Kaliuna don't get angry at me
<9> JanetB: Sometimes you have to push your way to the front of the line. Like at the movies.
<4> I just stating facts
<3> so you want to create a legal undercl*** in america?
<0> unfounded -- vote them all out
<7> how dare those illegal workers show up our lazy deadbeat citizens by .. working!
<4> JanetB sure
<13> the politicians that vote for this amnesty will see American's voice their oppinions at the polls
<3> MrRod... hogwash
<0> goppp -- facts? you have no facts at all --
<4> JanetB what wrong witha legal undercl***
<10> so who would they get to do the cheap labour after these "workers" are documented and demanding better wages..
<4> Kaliuna I amhispanic


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