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<0> baaba, right, just make up your own language
<1> just don't use anyways
<1> it bugs me
<1> =)
<1> its just like saying 12$
<1> bugs Tailor
<2> DiscoTaco -- Without regard to ***ual discrimination, polygamy is not protected by the Const
<3> DT: and a gay man can marry a gay woman; heh all you're going to do is have gays arry each other's partners and abuse the system that way
<1> hahahaha
<0> $12!
<4> TheTailor: huh?
<5> AAAman: thanks for that.
<3> DT: 2 gay men, 2 gay women, = 2 marriages. .heh and the system is byp***ed. so ha..
<0> baaba, "huh" isn't a word either
<4> and you're not using proper punctuation
<4> so shut up
<2> homo***uals should be given the same rights as hetro***uals
<5> Libertine: Fine, let them find all the workarounds they like. The legal recognition of marriage has a general function and is not designed to prohibit every specific type of relationship.
<1> ohh don't kick him
<3> DT: it makes the legal status pointless.
<0> He'll be back
<0> See
<1> yeh but he is cool
<1> he didn't know you were an op
<5> Libertine: so then what's your problem with it?
<1> =)
<4> i did actually :)
<5> Libertine: if as you argue marriage has no practical legal effect, why tilt toward that windmill?
<1> well then ban him
<4> but if that's the kind of action that gets me banned then i'm not bothered by it
<1> =P
<3> DT: explain why government needs to recognize marriage? it does not enforce marriage....
<0> I didn't ban you.
<3> i am not fined for having an affair.
<4> i know you didn't
<6> Libertine its already been explained
<1> shall we say "anyways"?
<2> Conflict with adultery
<5> Libertine: Katey arleady explained it to you plenty of times.
<6> its been explained on here so many times its nausiating
<3> rond: all I can get out of these guys is "promotes social well being"
<6> No all you get is all you close your eyes to
<3> rond: but plenty of things do that; but not all of them do we do...
<5> no, that's not all you got. If you refuse to read what's actually been posted to you, don't bother trying to argue the point.
<3> so promoting 'better families' and such is a very WEAK argument.
<6> your on ignore with bmc, linus and a lot of other dumb***es
<7> no, it really isn't.
<2> Libertine -- States which favor homo***uals have lower divorce rates.
<8> ROND: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v22/pfjunkie/iraq-shirt.jpg
<8> there ya go :-D
<3> hell if families are the reason for marriage; why let people that can't have kids get married?
<6> Loco I saw that :)
<3> they're bucking the system...
<9> ffs. It makes legal matters of inheritance/next of kid, taxes, child custody and paternity, and division of property function in a more orderly and equitable manner
<10> anyways is an adverb according to 1913 websters
<2> Libertine -- States which are the most anti-homo***ual have the highest ourt of wed birth and divorce rates
<10> synonymous with anywise
<1> the shaq
<1> he's so stupid
<9> it's not difficult to figure out, especially if you've ever been through, or known anyone who has been through a divorce, death of a spouse, or medical crisis of a spouse.
<7> an adverb?
<6> boy does /ignore help with the rule of life don't fly with the buzzards
<10> yes
<1> hahha
<10> Anyway \A"ny*way\, Anyways \A"ny*ways\, adv.
<10> Anywise; at all. --Tennyson. Southey.
<1> the media is making a big deal about nothing
<2> Understandable that anti-homo***uals are worried about their families
<1> trying to destroy baseball
<11> is a nation dominated by only one ideology a dangerous nation?
<1> I don't like baseball myself but man
<11> germany, japan were such nations.
<5> Libertine: because, again, the institution of marriage is not designed to be prohibative. Its purpose is to serve a general function and it is not in the state's interest to go around and verify that every couple has the ability to procreate before permitting them to marry.
<1> i am sick of the media trying to destroy it
<11> and now is china.
<4> AAAman: how so?
<5> Libertine: and, once again, creating the best arrangement for children was only one reason given for the legal institution of marriage.
<2> Libertine -- States which are the most anti-homo***ual have the highest ourt of wed birth and divorce rates
<2> (AP) -- Russia said Friday it plans to write off about $700 million in debt owed by the poorest countries -- a move reflecting its soaring oil-fueled wealth and a desire for equal footing with the world's top industrialized nations.
<3> DT: there is counter-argument for every reason you have given..
<4> i mean, if your family is already breaking apart, having a gay couple in the neighbourhood is probably not going to change what's going to happen either way
<0> AAAman, which states are "highly anti homo***ual"?
<6> one reason there is marriage is men have so often prooved to be ****s with how they do not handle child support, custody issues etc
<5> Libertine: and those counter-arguments have been weighed by society for a few hundred years and rejected.
<2> TheTailor --Those which have p***ed anti-gay laws
<6> disgusting
<3> rond: you dont need be married to pay child support.
<3> rond: trust me.. ask any NBA star
<6> there has to be a legal method to track these fools down with and force them to be responsable
<3> hehe
<0> AAAman, what anti gay laws?
<5> If you want to see a society without marriage, hang out in a ghetto for a while.
<2> TheTailor -- For instance, M*** has one of the lowest divorce rates in the nation.
<12> i am not anti homo***ual, I am just anti flamer
<0> AAAman, what anti gay laws?
<10> non-payment of child support can have your license suspended, at minimum
<3> DT: you're confusing poverty and lack of education with the issue.
<10> probably jail time in there somwhere
<10> somewhere*
<2> TheTailor -- Whether it be anti adoption laws and anti right laws
<3> DT: ghetto = poor, uneducated ... it has nothing to with marriage.
<7> except it does
<10> suspending licenses isnt a very good method, taking away their means of getting back and forth to work and what now
<12> integrate them back in society, like the days decades before
<12> where everybody knew bruce and lenny were gay
<12> but they just didn't go around and wear diapers at a parade
<5> Libertine: the issues are inseparable. The best way to ***ure that you get out of poverty, stay out of poverty, raise kids kids that are not impoverished and provide them with better educational opportunities is to get married and stay married.
<10> not*
<12> and wear dog collars and high heels
<0> AAAman, you have your head in your *** again, there aren't any 'anti gay' laws
<2> TheTailor -- It is only recently GA and TX have removed the worst of these laws
<7> if you've ever spent time getting to know people from the ghetto, few have 2-parent families.
<2> TheTailor blames the victim
<12> DiscoTaco: ah.. so that is why they have all those wierd names
<3> DT: wouldnt your chances of suceeding increase the more money you have? so .. in a polygaist relationship with children, you have even more workers per household.. why.. it seems polygamists ought to raise better families then...
<0> AAAman, what victim?
<5> Libertine: and desite your protestations, marriage (or the lack of it) has nearly everything to do with the state of intergenerational poverty in the inner cities (and out in the sticks too, to a lesser degree).
<3> polygamist, even
<2> homo***uals
<0> AAAman, what are they victims of?
<2> Challenge To Texas Anti-Gay Laws. The Independent, November 17, 1998
<3> these 2 parent households are at a disadventage...
<7> no, they're not
<3> advantage, even
<0> 1998?
<2> Two men are due to be arraigned for sodomy in Houston, Texas on Friday, in a case that has provoked outrage among gay groups across the country.
<13> Libergamist
<7> not nearly the disadvantage faced by single-parent homes
<3> CryHavoc: hah.
<0> AAAman, umm, this is 2006
<1> windows XP ****s
<13> AAAman...be ye warned...hide your strap-ons
<7> I mean, unless you're so antisocial that you can't live with someone, but in that case, you shouldn't have had (a) kid(s) anyway.
<3> Timur-: so if more parents is better; why not allow multiple partners in marriage? promote even more of that stability you guys mentioned.
<5> Libertine: oh yeah, I'm sure a man is going to have just as easy a time supporting 3 or 4 families as one family, dumb***.
<7> no, two.
<7> not 'any number greater than one'.
<3> DT: 3 parents 3 kids, easier then 2 parents 2 kids.
<13> Libergamy = Polygamy, but Livestock are included
<3> DT: if you have ever raised kids; you know I'm right.
<2> There are efforts to ban gay adoption and/or foster care in Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Indiana, Georgia, Kansas, Kentucky, Michigan, Missouri, Ohio, Oregon, Pennsylvania, but aside from Ohio and possibly Missouri
<7> because that's not how it works.
<13> 3 parents, 5 sheep and 4 cows...
<3> the more people to help out; the better.
<13> AK and OR...it will not fly
<13> MI also may shoot it down
<2> TheTailor -- Ohios constitutional amendment banning gay marriage has made domestic violence law only applicable to married couples.
<7> yeah, only a parent can 'help out'
<13> heh
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