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<0> sheesh
<1> 24 hours
<0> you just can't get good help these days.
<1> cease and desist, non compliance and yer toast
<1> very simple
<1> same goes with North Korea
<0> sounds like world government
<0> verrry liberal
<2> i wonder what Russia and China would have to say
<1> who cares
<0> liberals don't
<1> is Iran and North Korea worth their destruction as well?
<1> I don't think so
<0> a militarily predisposed liberal is a liberal nonetheless
<2> well I guess that just about clears it up
<0> anxious to expand government power
<2> heh
<0> building bases worldwide in a manner reminiscent of an empire
<2> hmm
<1> hell i would give China Taiwan, as long as they allowed the destruction of Kim Jong Il's regime
<0> handing out foreign welfare to every turd world country
<2> wahaha
<2> just give it to them eh?
<1> why not? thats our policy anyway
<0> A decree handing Formosa back to China
<1> 1 China
<0> It's happening
<3> Nah, we're still selling Taiwan hardware
<2> our policy is to defend Taiwan at all costs
<3> That would impact me
<1> so?
<0> PiGGX: not anymore
<0> We sold out to china
<1> PiGGX, we have a 1 china policy with Taiwan
<2> when did this change
<4> You sold out to China in 1971
<0> that's right herzen
<0> that bastard nixon
<1> bet you guys didn't know that Taiwan has a nuclear program=P
<0> (and kissinger)
<1> well has/had
<1> don't know what kind of program they have now
<0> Where is Barry Goldwater when you really need him?
<4> A good friend of mine, a professor of mine when I was in undergraduate wrote a book recently about Taiwanese policy in the 21st century
<4> He is from Taiwan
<4> he goes over in detail the 1971 events with Taiwan/China/USA
<1> I think USA is trying to hold the status quo line to see how far China will go along with its democratization
<5> jhicks: amen dude
<0> sounds very interesting actually Herzen
<3> jhicks: I think ole barry went for a dirt nap
<1> and once it gets to democracy we will say "its time to cut the ties"
<0> surlly: o i c
<5> it would be nice if we actually had real republicans
<0> yes
<5> instead of the fake ones we have now
<0> instead of these limp liberals
<3> John Dean is a real Republican
<1> its hard to win elections when you are ultra conservative
<5> what makes him a real republican?
<1> the people have been bought and paid for through so many social programs that its hard
<3> I meant Howard
<0> F18Hornet: all the more reason to constrain power of our elected officials
<5> pfft
<0> shut the bastards down
<1> jhicks the constraining of power comes through the will of the people, the will of the people at the moment is m***ive spending on social programs
<0> F18Hornet: the "people" elected bill clinton.
<5> come to think of it
<0> TWICE
<1> the minute you start talking about cutting social programs, is the second you lose any election you are in
<0> buncha cowards
<5> when is the last time you ever saw a "republican" attempt to limit the size of federal/state gov?
<0> the whole stinking lot of them
<0> MikeyD: never?
<1> MikeyD, actually Bush has been trying to do that
<5> yeah, pretty much
<0> bull****
<5> uh
<5> no he hasnt
<1> uhhhhh
<1> yes he has
<0> he's a liberal
<0> VERY liberal
<0> most liberal ever perhaps
<1> he has cut the most out of social programs of any president in recent history
<0> no he hasn't
<1> YES he has
<3> Well, is that policial philosophy, or the reality that the people who elect you to office dont want to accept the bitter pill required to make things better?
<0> nope
<1> its a fact heh sorry
<0> F18Hornet: $2 trillion dollars on Iraq
<5> when you increase the size of government 3% more than clintons 3% year after year and make nondefense/nonmilitary spending go up 33% in 4 years, thats not limiting ****
<0> 2 TRILLION
<1> he has shifter more of the budget towards military spending than on social programs
<6> lots of consternation over belafonte's remarks. i think one can justifiably posit that the US (not necessarily bush) has been the greatest sponsorer -- prosecuter, even -- of terrorism in the past 3 decades. Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan are both war criminals, their sponsorship of outright genocide in south america well etched in the annals of history
<5> dude
<3> We could have taken that 2 Trillion dollars and gone to mars with it
<0> screw mars
<5> hes spent more money than LBJ
<1> jhicks hahahahah you been reading that "nobel prize" dude huh?
<0> privatize space exploration
<3> Well, it would have been 20 trillion by the time NASA got done with it
<0> abolish NASA
<3> abolish the GAO
<1> MikeyD, HAHAHAHHAHAHA
<0> It's a cold war relic!
<3> Aboloish the FBI
<0> works for me
<3> Abolish the NAACP
<5> oh, and remember his tax reform panel? here was a chance to cut back the size of government and kill off some programs
<6> harold pinter gave a brilliantly eloquent evisceration of the us in his nobel speech..
<7> abolish NASA>
<7> ?
<0> that's not a government organization
<3> Abolish the ASPCA
<0> Yankee27: yes
<0> Screw NASA
<1> MikeyD, the government has grown at the average annual rate since 2002-2003 fiscal year
<7> jhicks; why do you care? You're seceeding.....
<0> Yankee27: I'm bitter
<1> which is between 1.2% and 2.0%
<5> now, if youd like to tell me which programs hes cut, and show me in the federal budget, please do
<1> which is inline with inflation
<5> cause ive been over it, and i see a 33% increase
<7> jhicks: go find a hooker and become less bitter.
<0> Yankee27: didn't work
<5> and not in defense/military spending either
<0> That's right MikeyD
<0> These liberals are all alike
<5> exactly what has bush done to limit the size of gov or cut it back
<1> MikeyD, he has cut federal food stamps, federal medicare/medicaid, prescription drug benefits
<0> HAH
<5> pfft
<7> Mikeyd: just go to the Cato institutes study on bush's spending.
<5> Yankee27: dude, where do you think i go?
<5> besides art oliver
<0> Besides, it's congress to blame as well
<0> CORRUPT CROOKED CONGRESS
<7> the **** do I know?
<1> they have eliminated budgets for R&D of new helicopters and un-needed weapon systems
<0> like Duck Cunning Ham for instance
<0> He was a smart pig
<0> for a little while
<0> This is our government
<0> And you ask why I seceded
<7> if you seceded, it's not your GOV anymore.
<0> It is until I acquire Lockheed.
<0> If I get Lockheed I don't need Boeing.
<6> it's funny how anyone who expresses displeasure with the way our government presently operates, is called "bitter," "anti-american," and a host of other obfuscatory slurs that really serve little purpose other than to divert attention away from the issues at hand.
<1> I don't think anyone here thinks cutting the military is beneficial
<0> tooljaw: I called myself bitter though.
<6> did you?
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