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Comments:
<0> IMHO: one shot, one hit, one stop.. is the safest for all concerned
<1> to kill someone with this i would have to press the barrell against their body
<2> That's why Lupine uses a 6 Guage shotgun...
<3> FEMA: Do you have a vagina on or about your person?
<0> Well.. I tend to prefer carrying a firearm that I am most accurate with
<1> i have one in the next room.
<1> does that count?
<3> FEMA: Not good enough.
<3> FEMA: I'm gay. Pretty much exclusively.
<1> i'm married 15 years. wtf you mean it doesn't count?
<2> Cathy, no depression for you?
<1> i dont care if yer a nun as long as you believe in gun control and hitting what you aim at.
<4> cant you tell cathy is gay
<5> kursk was a huge tank battle wasnt it]
<5> i think like one of largest tank battles ever
<3> I'm still getting off my anti-depressants.
<2> I'm glad I never got on those.
<3> FEMA: LOL I have a pin that says that very thing.
<5> ah it was actually the largest
<0> JonM: heh, I saw on the military channel, an interview with an M1 tank commander
<1> see, i knew we had stuff in common.
<3> redfish: I... I'm not sure how to take that.
<5> cool
<0> in desert storm, they were going full steam across the desert, and came across 8 iraqi T-72s that were not detected/reported when they came over a ridge
<3> FEMA: Yeah, we both like shooting guns and ****ing women.
<6> senate office building might be under bio attack
<0> the 8 tanks were in tank-pits, at near point blank range.. the commander identified and destroyed 4 of those tanks in under 30 seconds.. but they kept going full steam and went right thru them.. the following US tanks destroyed the other 4.. they never slowed down
<5> when i was 13 i was like really into ww2
<5> and other military history
<7> dung mary?
<5> like I said before thats a bad example
<8> lethal injection bothers me. You can't hate someone just so much that you want them to die peacefully
<5> chris offili painted a picture of the virgin mary and put elephant dung on it
<8> If the state is going to murder people as justification, justice should be served
<8> if not, not.
<5> but people dont realize that elephant is considered sacred
<8> teh death penalthy in this country is such an anonying cop out
<0> suna: so do I. i think it should be in the same manner that they killed
<9> One man's justice is another's retribution.
<3> Lupine: that sounds a little different from the "Oops! T-72s!" story I heard on the History channel.
<8> yup
<2> suna, cruel and unusual punishment blocks that.
<5> and mayor rudy julinai made a big "stink" about it
<8> gun shot wound? gun shot wound. Stab 88 times? well then........
<8> :P
<2> Lupine, I agree.
<6> 200 staffers and 8 senators were evacuated and quatanteed
<8> I think the chair was a good method to be honest
<0> cathy: well, they came up so fast, and were moving at full speed.. stopping would have been suicide
<2> suna, uh why?
<8> po: it hurt like hell
<8> :P
<2> suna, they were probably dead before the real pain would start.
<2> It tended only to hurt the people it failed to kill
<0> cathy: my cousin is a marine aviator, and was flying F/A-18s in desert storm. Oh, you should see the videos and hear the stories of the "kuwait turkey shoot"...
<8> well, least they felt something. Sides, it's a hell of a lot more scary than being put to sleep as if it was surgery and never waking up.
<0> as he put it, the navy/marine guys were damn jealous of the A-10 fliers, as they carried so much more ordinance.. where as the carrier planes had to return as they ran out of ammo so bad
<10> Sharpton is such an ***
<3> The story I heard was squad of M1A1s crested a hill to meet a superior force of T-72s all surprise like, and all of the M1s just immediately started selecting and deleting targets of opportunity. A few T-72s got off shots, not none for any effect. Once done, the M1s proceeded.
<8> anyway, i'm not sure if I generally agree with the death penalthy. I don't have the "right" answer. However, I say that waiting 30 years to execute someone with a needle is a cop out and definently the WRONG answer!
<0> cathy: yea, that happened quite a few times similar
<11> That is palusible...
<8> it's just govt. hiding from debate, avoiding a controversial issue. Pathetic in every way.
<11> T-72 would be no match for an Abrams
<9> I know of no reason to execute people.
<0> suna: i think that if they eliminated circumstantial cases.. then most of the problems would be solved
<9> Other than, I hate them and I want my revenge.
<3> I understand the Highway of Death seriously ****ed with the minds of a lot of American flyiers.
<0> i then believe that all factors should be appealed within 90 days.. with perhaps the exeception of new/clear evidence of innocence
<11> once upon a time, CNN had the cutting edge footage and reporting..
<11> including some hellacious footage..
<11> like a Bosnia-run M1A1 exterminating 3 Serbian T-72s
<0> well, CNN was the first US media I saw talking abou the "sensitivities of islam" and their refusal to show these cartoons
<8> i agree that there is no excuse for waiting 30 years for appeals.
<8> If it takes that long, it shouldn't
<11> two shots two tanks...
<4> Poopine
<11> then it smashed through a building and panckaed the third
<7> thef irst US media i saw was drudge :)
<9> If you eliminate the unnecessary death penalty you have no need to wade through the mire of racial inequality, cruel and unusual, etc.
<7> "When extremists extract concessions from democracies on points of principle, either by blackmail or terror, democracies do not have long left," Charlie Hebdo editor Philippe Val wrote.
<7> i really agree
<11> The Death Penalty is necessary
<11> some people NEED to die
<9> That some human beings will hurt other human beings because of a cartoon only shows the irrationality of those human beings doing the hurting.
<8> jega: you also avoid any uncertainty of whether or not the person could be proven innocent some time down the line
<9> Why do they need to die?
<8> however, should a serial killer really be allowed to live?
<9> Yes.
<9> Study him.
<9> And nobody is
<7> cry!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<8> study him forever?
<9> And nobody is 'allowed' to live.
<8> ;p
<11> they would only detract form society...
<7> but is it cruel and unusual punishment to keep him locked up to study him
<9> Life is a human right.
<11> and have chosen not to co-operate..
<7> if life is a human right then why arent we sending mroe food to africa....if its their RIGHT
<9> Well, we can't be sure that at some future date we wouldn't be able to learn more things from him.
<11> Timothy McVeigh...John Wayne Gacy ...Jeffrey Dahmer
<9> Peace, that is a terrible analogy.
<2> JegaPRIME, there been plenty of studies done on psychopathic killers, if that's what you mean.
<9> One requires us to do something while the other requires us to NOT do something.
<7> hey im hungry im thinking about food
<8> that's true po
<11> those 3 lost their rights
<9> Why?
<11> McVeigh murdered 168 people...
<8> jega: your idea that we're not 'allowed' to live sounds pretty but is naive. I have the power over whether or not I kill somebody
<9> We treat people ethically not for their sake but for our own.
<7> chicken takes forever to cook
<8> you can call it whatever you want
<12> Nerve agent in the Capitol!!
<11> Gacy 37
<12> aaaagh
<8> but humans have the ability to end lives
<9> Because they are OUR ideals.
<8> and they will continue to do so
<7> forbin: theres breakign news?
<9> Not because of what they have done.
<11> Dahmer 20+
<7> youre kidding
<3> Just read any book by John douglas and you'll be a death penalty proponent.
<9> Havoc, I believe you are trying to illicit an emotional reaction in me.
<9> You want me to say, Oh my gosh!! Twenty people! Let's throw out all our ideals as soon as possible!
<9> Because ideals are only really useful when things are easy.
<7> umm...they say the nerve agent test is negative dude
<9> In the 'real' world with 'real' people there is no place for principle.
<3> Goddamnit! My cable reception ****s ***.
<8> ideals are just that, ideals.
<3> Only news channel coming through clearly at all is MSNBC.
<8> They'd be great in a world with perfect people
<8> ;)
<11> Jega...to say that all life is sacred is noble and altruistic..
<9> Suna, you've said nothing.
<11> but for the good of the many..
<9> No, ideals do not only work with perfect people.
<8> i've said a lto, pay attention
<7> theres not nerve agent in the capitol
<8> and i'm not Suna
<13> JegaPRIME: the "ideal" is for the PUNISHMENT to fit the crime...yes, the death penalty does fit the crime of multiple 1st-degree murders
<8> read:P
<14> hey IamKing..
<9> There are no perfect people nor can there every be.
<9> There exists no perfect person, even in theory.
<11> thank You IamKing
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