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<0> apparently
<1> FT: obviously they don't agree, unless the goal is to be a fool ?
<1> see, look at jimco
<1> his goal is to propagandize
<2> Society and some jews (Certainly not all, I have been chatting with one on this channel who agrees with me), have created an intellectual wall which you can not debate or question in some cases.
<1> he doesn't want "respect" he just wants to barely avoid being banned so that he can propagandize
<2> That wall should be broken down
<3> FT, I think alot of the confusion comes from the total number of people killed Estimates being 11 million, with 5-6 million of them being of jewish decent, some people with reading comprehension problems think that the 11 million was ALL jews, and so therefore they were lied to
<2> we should be able to debate Israel like we do France and Canada and venezuela
<1> well, I think it's sickening.
<2> and jews as we do white european protestants, Arabs or others.
<1> debating Nazi details makes me ill
<2> Judaism as much as we debate christianity, islam and any other religion
<1> I think it's a good time to upgrade my spftware
<1> laters
<2> There should be no wall.
<2> There shouldbe no taboo.
<2> Well people should not get into debate which make them ill.
<2> Or which they cant be objective about , or at least unemotional enough to be rational.
<4> jobless rate in manitoba is 4.2%, nationally 6.3%, 32 year low
<4> created 50,000 jobs in march
<4> hot damn!
<2> But its a good time for a new debate anyway thsi one is tired.
<5> lol
<0> maybe we can schedule a holocaust debate
<0> a no holds barred event
<0> at a certain time
<5> allan50h: is this one of the republics of what I know as the "northen terroR"?
<5> hehehe
<5> sounds like the work of a conservative leader
<4> northern terror?
<4> eh
<5> a fear of liberalism
<5> nothing personal
<5> a joke.sorry
<4> heh
<2> My position is there was a Genocide which is commonly called a Holocaust, that at least 5 million people and possibly more than 6 million people were murdered. I do believe that Israel has a right to exist as a state, not because of the morality of the genesis of the state but because it is a de facto truth, They do have a nation. I accept that nations are what they are whether or not they came about justly..
<2> I want to make clear my position as I end my part in this discussion.
<4> considering harper has barely done anything, you cant really give him credit
<5> allan50h: What were these rates before the new President?
<5> ah
<4> Prime minister :P they were very low as well http://www.cbc.ca/story/business/national/2006/04/07/jobs-060407.html
<5> allan50h: I'm a bit tired, sorry. Mexico has the President too
<4> but think about it, thats like the US creating 500,000 jobs
<5> not Canada
<4> yup
<4> we dont vote for president or prime minister, we vote in the party
<5> ooh yeah
<4> they can do whatever they want regarding the position of prime minister
<2> Well damn I dont get this day off I must work.
<2> Later.
<2> Deadline
<6> yep, non democratically elected prime minister
<2> and like usual I wait to the last minute.
<4> 211,000 jobs created in the US in march
<4> not bad
<4> id say our economies are doing really well
<6> I just wnat to know gasoline is up almost 45% in five months :-/
<7> Evewr hear Lou Freaking Dobbs mention insourcing?
<6> want to know why.. ugh
<7> demand
<4> because people are willing to pay it
<6> naw, demand today isn't up that much
<5> allan50h: I'll try and find this link, but in January I read a gallup poll that cited the American approval or "like" rating of Canada is a t 94%
<5> lol
<6> where I live, there is always a blip around springbreak..
<4> if you have 100,000 gallons... your gonna keep jacking up the price until you cant sell all of that
<4> publius... actually i heard that, very happy
<5> me too
<4> i think we were tied with britain
<8> Petrol is $1.40 a litre in Queensland Australia
<4> or very close
<5> allon50h: Surp***ed
<7> if we can get those Chinese folks back on their bikes we would be beeter off but how you gonna keep kim lam down on the farm after he's seen beijing?
<6> allan: i do not think the public's willingness to pay has gone up 45% than from 5 months ago
<5> allan50h: Canada is official #1 now
<5> hehe
<7> gas companies have made 8% consistently
<4> lupine... how many people do you know have seriously cut their gasoline usage?
<5> France made it over the halfway mark
<4> i mean done a serious amount...
<5> again
<6> WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- An unarmed man penetrated the White House fence on Sunday, screaming incoherently at security guards who pulled their guns and subdued him.
<5> That topic is titanium
<6> allan: that is my point.. demand hasn't increased 45%.. and supply hasn't decreased appreciably
<7> I penetrated that fence but she wanted it
<3> CARACAS, Venezuela - Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez said the U.S. amb***ador was "provoking the Venezuelan people" and threatened Sunday to expel the American diplomat, whose convoy was chased by pro-government protesters.
<4> yes but "demand" doesnt have to increase 45% for the price to increase 45%
<3> heh, so why not just leave?
<4> its quite simple, the gas companies jack the prices... if the demand stays the same, they'll keep the price inflated
<3> to hell with Chavez
<4> if it drops, they'll consider cutting the price
<6> allan: ah, but why 45% now, and not 45% 5 months ago? i.e. what is the timing?
<8> Brazil is now making cars that run on alchol or petrol or both.
<6> normally, there are physical/actionable reasons.. this time, i plumb dont see any
<6> stanley: nitromethane is where its at!
<3> the majority of cars in the USA are enabled to run on ethanol
<4> lupine... again... who has actually CUT their gasoline useaga due to high prices?
<4> thats how demand works
<8> the get the full from sugar cane
<8> fuel
<4> the price goes up until demand falls off
<7> gas isn't going down because the demand is going up
<3> yeh we get ours from corn Stan
<6> allan: so why hadn't the gas companies kept it up all the time, isntead of discounting it the last 5 months?
<4> who knows
<3> gas is regulated by the market
<8> What happens when 200 million chinese purchase cars?
<6> you see, supply/demand doesn't work in this case.. as it would imply then the gasoline companies were just being charitable
<4> Stanley... I retire on my energy stocks
<7> it is demand based--if China offers 60 and we offer 61 we get the oil
<6> you cna't use it to explain rising prices, yet not use it to explain low prices
<5> 426Hemi: I just sent an email to a democrat offering to aide him...
<4> i never said they were being charitable.. quite the opposite
<4> they want to make as much money as possible.. period
<6> allan: then explain why they were charging substantially less 5 months ago, when the people were willing to pay more
<7> supply and demand work--what is the question?
<4> who knows... competition?
<7> yes--competition
<4> the price of crude is high now
<6> alton: how does it "work" when you apply it to the drastic reduction of gas prices we had
<6> allan: the price of crude has been ***inine hgh for the last year or so
<6> that doesn't explain the 45% jump
<4> explain to me this... gas up here in canada is 1.05L... about the same price post-katrina
<4> yet price across the line is around 2.50
<4> 20% or so below post-katrina
<9> litre vs. gallon
<6> our gas went down, post katrina
<6> but as I said, up 45% in 5 months
<4> im talking the 2-3 days after it hit
<4> it was very high
<8> I think the USA uses a smaller gallon not the imperial gallon
<6> stanely: naw, we use the gallon :-) all others are wrong.. bwahaha
<4> 1.05.. thats almost $4 a gallon canadian... $3.44 Us dollars per US gallons
<3> <+allan5oh> explain to me this... gas up here in canada is 1.05L... about the same price post-katrina <--- FAR FAR less demand
<7> if you graph it you will see a point at which the most dollars will be had =max revenue--Saudis usually sell for less than they could to maximize revenue as do anyone who wants to maximize revenue. If demand sopikes or if it is expected that supply will be curtailed then the futures market will drive the price up
<6> 426: probably different pipelines..
<3> not to mention we import alot of our gas from Canada
<4> so the price of our gas is almost 50% higher
<6> allan: yea, but so are the taxes
<3> they weren't being effected by hurricane
<4> yet it wasnt just a few months ago
<4> it was actually near comparable
<5> 426Hemi: that's cause Canada is gonna give Venezeula the Bush eye
<7> The futures market is people betting on future gas prices and if Bush were to go on TV and say we have no choice but to attack several countries the price of oil would go to about 140 per barrell
<5> if Chavez don't quit messin
<3> yes allan, its all big oil companies fault
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