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<0> cracked down on jews
<0> won debates against white people
<1> Berekeley is practically a Jewish city.
<1> Although we have people from every nation in the world which travels and educates. 100s of languages.
<2> I met one Jew in college and we became friends--their arn't that many in PA
<3> lol.. gotta love the bumppad.. kind of out of place: http://www.smith-wesson.com/wcsstore/SmWesson/upload/images/engraving/cus/1911_left.jpeg
<0> cool FreeMrkts
<0> berkeley is a beautiful city
<1> Yeah My dads roommate in college was a Jewish guy in the 1940s
<1> Hes still friends with him today.
<2> atleast not in Allentown--what should I do? put an ad in the paper saying that the chatroom thinks I should have more so call me?
<1> They both became lawyers, he chose the bigger city my dad a smaller city but my dad is known in the state.as he has headed many state legal ***ociations
<4> Alton: here's a clue for you...you are indeed delusional
<1> But they live in the same state he and his roomate.
<4> Alton: of course because you are delusional, you will never accept your current status as delusional
<5> are you guys STILL listening to that dweeb?
<4> Alton: therefore, I will not debate with you your current mental state (which happens to be currently in the toilet)
<1> Thats when whenever people even remotely insinuate I am an anti-semitic, Its almost a joke its so bizarre.
<5> you know /ignore works wonders for people like that
<4> Alton: so please, believe your one Jewish "friend" and go seek psychiatric help
<4> JanetB: I never put people on /ignore
<1> I critisize all governments including the USA and I discuss all peoples. Regardless of race or religion.
<5> IamKing.. well I have only 2... bt sometimes you just have to do what you have to do
<4> JanetB: I did before /mode +g...but only for spam bots
<0> if
<0> the british
<1> Wait, What are you saying Alton about jews are you generalizing ?
<1> Iamking why are you on him ?
<1> IM curious
<0> put israel on their own turf let's say in australia where there's lotsa land anyway
<0> wouldn't that be better?
<2> Janet has imaginary relatives who died in camps she can't name--that is delusional--I just read alot
<4> FreeMrkts: Alton = Nazi sympathizer + Holocaust denier
<6> Hard to imagine living in a place where you don't have regular interaction with people who are Jewish. As far back as I can remember I have gone to school with, worked with, been friends with people who are Jewish
<1> I dont which side to be on since I dont know what you are debating or suggesting.
<0> then we wouldn't have to hear about jews this and jews that
<6> I honestly never considered it a particularly noteworthy thing
<1> Katey, Most the USA does not.
<4> FreeMrkts: he's been trolling a good 15 to 30 minutes before you logged on
<1> Small towns in particular.
<1> East coast has the most.
<4> I've probably gone to school with Jewish people as well as worked with them without even knowing it...it's not like they broadcast it out to everyone :P
<6> Just as I can't imagine living anywhere where there are no people who are Black.
<1> iamking, Please quote me something he said which is nazi syompathizer.
<4> I was surprised when one particular girl at work said she was Jewish...I couldn't tell one way or another
<2> You guys are childish--if you don't want to read up on something you brand a guy a troll. what does that even mean except people we don't like to have arguments with?
<4> FreeMrkts: oh man, you are going to make me look back through my logs? :P
<1> and is he denying it and if so What is his defense ?
<1> You saw it
<1> I wasnt there
<1> Paraphrase
<4> FreeMrkts: that it is fact that Hitler never g***ed the Jews
<5> FreeMrkts... Alton got put on ignore, after he was saying that Jews did not die in gas chambers, and it all a lie, and that britian was killing people and then the germans started to kill maybe a million, and Hitler was only responding to ecnomic pressures
<1> Are you kidding me ?
<1> Alton Did you say this ?
<4> and Auschwitz was just a labor camp, not an extermination camp
<1> There is dissent and there is stupidity.
<4> FreeMrkts: he loves revisionist history
<1> Alton, DID YOU SAY THESE THINGS
<1> DEFEND YOURSELF NOW OR YOU WONT GET THE CHANCE ?
<4> FreeMrkts: Lupine and JanetB can concur with me
<3> . /msg thetailor <2> Hitler never g***ed jews
<1> I always give when I can people a chance to defend thier statements.
<1> In case of misunderstanding.
<1> Without a defense I am going to ban him.
<5> 10:32] <2> England killed civilians first and Hitler did it only after England did it repeatedly. Of course Hitler was nuts but the history is a pack of lies
<3> thetailor already warned him to stop revisionist history on the holocaust.. and alton claimed he would leave the topic alone
<1> And he doesnt appear to be coming forward.
<4> no, there really isn't any misunderstanding on our parts...he is indeed delusional
<5> 10:33] <2> Hitler also never used gas on his opponents
<5> [10:33] <7> Alton, Except of course, the Jews
<5> [10:33] <2> not all
<6> heh. Didn't Hitler bomb England for a solid year? :)
<2> I said Britain killed CIVILIANS first and yes there has never been any credible evidence of gas chambers. They were worked to death and shot and Hitler was a m*** killer but not the way depicted at all.
<4> JanetB: thanks...that's his prideful support of revisionist history right there
<6> I wonder if any civilians were killed
<5> [10:34] <2> Hitler never g***ed jews
<6> (sarcasm)
<1> Wait a second.
<1> Let me an ALton have a talk folks.
<5> [10:34] <5> Alton.. you peice of garbage.... my Grandmother... and 4 cousins and 2 aunts and uncles died in those gas chambers, don't come in here and tell me Hitler did not gas them!
<5> [10:34] <2> no and no evidence to indicate he did
<1> Alton, I have seen American made documentarys which prover the jews were g***ed..
<2> are you suggesting that Hitler used gas in warfare because that isn't even disputed among historians oif any stripe damnit Janet!
<5> after that he got put on ignore so I have no more statments from him
<1> The Germans admit they had extermination camps and yes they did use the jews for slave labor until they dropped dead.
<6> honestly, I think people take this position just to get people riled up
<1> Janet, Let me talk to alton alone on the channel for a minute
<1> Alton, Why do you deny such obvious facts ?
<1> Such super documented facts ?
<7> In 1917 a Nobel Prize for etiquette was selected, but was not awarded after several scientists threatened to boycott the event.
<1> The only quwestion which can rationally be debated is whether Hitler killed 5 million jews or 7 million jews.
<1> LET ME TALK TO ALDON
<1> ALTON
<1> Or I will devoice the channel except he and I.
<8> Herzen there was no way they were going to eat without having their elbows on the table?
<8> hehe
<1> Alton and I will have a debate.
<1> I get confused when other people interject noise onto the channel, give us 3 minutes.
<2> free--I was subjected to the same stories as you and that is something that makes me angry because so much of it is nonsense.
<8> have you done lost your damn mind?
<1> Alton, Why are you denying these well documetned facts ?
<1> THis is well documented not by jews, but by western non jews
<1> Please defend your position
<1> Jews documented it as well but Americans and Europeans documented it independently
<1> Answer
<1> I want to get to the bottom of what you are debating.
<1> 30 seconds.
<2> The supposed documentation was based on tortured witnesses at the Nuremburg trials and grew like a snowball down a hill after 1960--real history is a bit trickier--for instance why was there no gas chambers when the Russians liberated Aushwitz?
<1> No it wasnt. I saw documentaries of the camps at aushwitz, taken by american GIs and the press.
<1> Alton these are facts.
<2> Why did the Germans put numbers on their arms?
<1> I saw many documentaries created before the nuremberg trials
<1> someone is either taking control of your mind through a bunch of lies, or you are brainwashed or you are purposley anti Jewish.
<2> aerial photos show no stacks which would have been needed to ventillate the gas
<1> IM dealign with reality
<1> Not with conspiracy theories.
<1> I have met people who SAW the camps
<2> the gas was said to be zyklon b but they changed that to cyanide after zyklon b was debunked
<1> I have seen American and British Film Documentaries on it.
<1> See your debating the type of gas
<1> Im debating that it happened
<2> I am not saying there were not camps but that they were work camps and they were inspected by the red cross
<1> I want a you to tell me where they got all those dead bodies before special effects and computer recreations could do so ?
<2> I am saying nobody was g***ed--it is ridiculous--the Germans were very efficient and would have shot them,
<9> I think the germans were fonder of just shooting ppl
<6> why would shooting be more efficient?
<1> They were slave labor camps and they killed the people who could no longer work, they LITERALLY lived in bread and water.. Meat was rare and you got it from snitching on another jew or other collaboration with nazis
<6> g***ing would be much more efficient
<1> I am reopening the debate to all
<9> its more fun, if youre into that kind of thing
<10> http://www.shroomery.org/forums/files/061103-11/53086-PR082098.gif
<1> Alton, there was proof of gas and furnaces at camps.
<1> Its true not every camp g***ed them
<1> but some did.
<2> free--which dead? the skinny dead? they died of starvation at the end when the Germans abandoned the camps--nobody disputes that.
<1> Yes everyone disputes that,
<2> proof of crematoria at the largest camps such as aushwitz--we have them here too
<7> ah Holocaust Deniers make for an interesting afternoon on this channel
<1> Why did the germans not die of starvation at the end, I saw a documentary where fat ****ing Germans were forced to see the product of thier Hitler in the form of dead and rotting Jews.. The people reacted as we would, the shock of the horror of the reality came to them.
<1> The Germans admit all this. Alton
<11> the Hitler Youth denied it too. The Allies took them to the camps and made them look at it, untl many of them cried
<6> Herzen, if you were looking for an efficient way to kill a large number of people, which would you choose, g***ing groups at a time or shooting each one?
<2> I am saying that historians don't dispute that the skinny people at the end of the war were there because the Germans left and there had not been food for a long time because we cut the supply lines
<7> Katey-, g***ing them obviously
<7> Katey-, its also cheaper in the long rn
<6> yes
<1> You are not just debating non jews like me, and jews, You are debating against the US army, THe UK and their documentation, The Soldiers who liberated the camps which still had german guards in some cases when they were liberated.
<7> Katey-, infact, thats why they started g***ing them, early in the poland campaign they shot them and left them in ditches, but it was too slow so they built camps
<11> he's an NWO/KKK loony
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