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Comments:
<0> everyone hates him eventually
<1> let's take a minute to appreciate the fact that Howard Dean is the Chairman of the DNC
<2> :D
<3> wow. That Colorado teacher who was suspended, shaved his head
<2> Hannity points that out everyday on his show
<4> Oh goodie... new ballots this year in my county... is it just me or were the punch cards really not that hard to figure out.
<5> US_Male lol, link?
<3> bud, I saw him on TV
<3> I wonder if it's on Google anywhere
<2> Hannity has memorized a list of outrageous things Dean has said and recites them all the time
<1> Glock21: Howdy do
<6> Glock, hard to say, did the Republicans win? If so the ballots were obviously too confusing
<1> hahahahaha
<5> Glock21 we've used the scantron's here for years. pretty flawless. fill in the circle, slide in the slot
<4> bud`... that's what we're apparently going to be using now... with a machine that you stick the scantron in to tabulate your vote and also gives you a chance to make sure you didn't overvote, undervote, etc.
<2> anyone watchin foxnews?
<2> that kid is on
<5> best voting machine ever -> http://www.strangepolitics.com/images/content/6394.jpg
<2> colmes lol
<1> bastille1: gotcha
<1> this kid is sharp
<1> he's defeating liberals at like 14
<1> makes me proud
<2> colmes just got schooled by a 16-year old
<1> 16?
<1> aw
<2> yeah
<2> haha
<1> I was still a liberal then
<1> well
<1> no I wasn't
<4> Crap... my polling location change... it used to be right across the street.
<4> Boo!
<4> :P
<7> ty
<4> Our primary is only a couple weeks away now.
<1> why so early
<4> Seems to vary from State to State when they are held.
<1> they are in July in GA
<4> Remember the 2004 primary?
<1> ah
<1> yeah
<1> early March for the DNC nom right?
<4> I wonder if they use the same primary dates for non-presidential election years... never really noticed.
<1> me neither
<4> On non-presidential election years there usually isn't any national awareness or coverage for primary stuff.
<6> Kentucky's primaries are the last Tuesday in May
<1> Teddy?
<6> Glock, most states use the same dates, maybe all of them
<6> I know Kentucky does, and Florida does
<1> OH
<1> Kentucky
<1> dur
<1> ahem
<4> Some hokey referendums this year... expanding the m***-transit area for more bus coverage... more cash for schools and such... switching a fire protection district for a small satellite town from one town to another.
<4> Illinois Republicans are desperate to pick a gubernatorial candidate that has at least some chance at winning.
<1> I got it
<6> Not likely to happen, sadly, Illinois seems to be becoming more and more Democratic, despite downstate Republicans
<4> Well the chi-town/downstate divide even pits dems against each other on some issues.
<4> Which is a good thing, especially on guns... a lot of downstate dems won't support gun bans for fear of losing their downstate seats.
<8> speaking of which, gun show this weekend
<8> reno,nv
<4> Our US Congressional district here encomp***es our liberal campus towns... but is big enough that the rural conservative vote still drowns it out. The State Congressional district isn't so big and dems have it now.
<9> nvm
<1> John Linder is my congressmen
<1> hehe
<1> I'm lucky
<4> We have a fairly new guy for our congressman... Tim Johnson (not the senator)
<4> He's a big name around here because he was the State Congressman for the area for decades.
<4> Made the move to the federal rep position years ago.
<1> ah
<6> Linder's a good guy, my Congressman beat George Clooney's dad for the seat last election
<1> shheeeew
<4> Tough district for a repub though... covers both the University of Illinois flagship campus and Illinois State University.
<4> A lot of liberal voters who don't necessarily live in the district, vote in the district.
<4> The dem voter groups push students to change their voter registration to their campus address... repub voter groups push students to keep their registration at home.
<4> And students who get stopped by them typically have no clue as to which they should do and complacently do what they're told. Fun to watch on the quad.
<1> hey now
<1> I'm a student
<1> haha
<4> "typically"
<10> Students get stopped by whom?
<4> There are always the rebellious exceptions.
<1> yeah...
<4> sintient... the voter groups from one side or the other.
<1> the parties use colleges as the motor of their campaigns
<1> locally
<1> kidna...
<4> They yell and haggle on the campus quad before every election trying to get as many voters registered in the way they want.
<10> Colleges are seen as rich impressionable citizen corals.
<6> They use them, they're not the main source of political activists though, Dems rely more on unions, Republicans on church groups
<6> At least in most areas
<1> yep
<1> Georgia is pretty conservative on the whole though
<1> outside of Atlanta that is
<6> Yep, finally got past that nasty conservative Democrat trend and went pure Republican
<4> Young folks are a bit too unreliable when it comes to voting... and voter groups are still trying to harness the untapped resource for their agendas... so far without much luck.
<10> 178 million elligble voters estimated.
<10> and 100 million vote.
<1> my gf changed her mind and voted for Kerry last minute
<1> ugh
<10> A majority is out there they just don't go to the booths.
<4> sintient... it's probably better that people who don't care, don't vote.
<6> Too many people vote as it is
<9> a lot of ppl didnt even vote for bush
<9> bc they heard about the exit polls
<4> I'd argue that people who aren't well informed should probably avoid the polls as well.
<9> and figured it wasnt worth going
<10> I just see that as the reason for such competative lobbying of voters.
<9> how's that for a conspiracy theory?
<6> I'd like to see turnout get down to around 25%-30%
<10> You could win the presidency just by rallying voters who don't vote.
<10> I think it was the other way around thebarry.
<1> hahahaha
<11> why are the conservatives always trying to get people to not vote
<11> so sad
<10> People said that gore won prematurely.
<4> You can try... but most people who don't vote... honestly don't care.
<1> hahaha
<1> lithium....
<1> People= The Media said
<4> They don't know enough about it, they don't know who to believe, and they don't want to take the time to fix either one.
<11> what?
<1> haha
<10> Education is not a prerequisite for voting.
<6> I remember I was a little apprehensive for a few minutes when I heard about those exit polls in 2004, then I looked into them and went from nervous to happy
<4> Lithium-... I'd encourage EVERY *well-informed* person to vote. I'd discourage people from voting who are not paying attention or who do not care.
<10> Thanks.
<1> vote or die"
<1> that was a great one
<10> Doesn't matter though informed or not they can vote.
<1> I bet Kerry loved that
<11> Glock21: how many people voted for bush based on his religion and without any real knowlege of the issues?
<10> I voted just to get puff daddy off my back!
<1> hahaha
<6> Lithium, about zero
<10> j/k
<1> does anyone know that
<12> Lithium- voted for bush because their husbands told them to
<4> If you don't know anything about the issues at hand... you are obviously only going to be a tool of propaganda and any real intellectual balance on the issue will be drowned out by ignorance.
<10> Oh man I hear "Bush is a good christian like me," all the time.
<11> exactly
<6> Jimmy Carter was a good Christian too, don't think many Bush voters would go for him
<4> Uninformed voters are on both sides. Well informed voters are on both sides.
<1> ooooooh
<1> Rockfish: I liked that
<4> This isn't a dem/repub problem... it's a general voter problem.
<11> carter didnt wear his religion on his sleeve
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