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<0> peace mongers
<1> US-Male is increasing factionalism
<2> HATE CRIME!!!
<3> tweek..imagine Iraq, Iran and most all the *stans in that region one big huge shi'a cesspool...
<1> and thus, endangering us all!
<0> the war in Iraq is a mistake, its ten years to ****ing late.
<3> with maybe 90 million of the fervent...
<4> we can really change the place, that our going there will wind up more productive than counterproductive, given the huge number of egregious mistakes we've made in executing the occupation and attempted restoration of infrastructure and civilization there
<5> plusplusc: Yes, it is precisely that simple. If America withdraws immediately, Iraq's democratically-elected government will collapse as foreign-funded dictators and Islamofascists fight it out for control of the state. It is just that simple.
<3> then toss in another Khomeini....
<2> CryHavoc: what, like, two decades ago? :)
<5> Those are just the facts, whether you agreed with the war or not.
<3> yes..serious hell
<6> oh no
<7> CryHavoc: imagine? they already are...
<3> yes tweek..Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini
<6> yes, the leader of the republican guard?
<4> Pickle: I think amazingly enough, that I just agreed with the "precipitous withdrawal == not so good" line of thinking
<2> the Iran-Iraq War
<2> ***hat vs. ***hat
<3> then the new one points 90-110 million shi'a at Saudi and says they are infidels...
<8> plusplusc supports the US staying in Iraq?
<7> CryHavoc: anyway... most of the stans are aligned with russia
<0> my money is on the US Backed ***hat
<3> arcane...nope
<3> Kazakh is
<3> the only one
<4> MrRod: not for an indefinite future. At most, another year or two.
<9> We could completely pull out of Iraq in 18 years ....
<5> Now, you may not think that the war should have happened--and you'd have a point. But since we can't go back in time, the choices are withdraw now or not.
<7> uzbek is as well
<7> is it not?
<3> all the others are chock full of islamic fundies
<9> ....the time when the Chuck Norris Clone Army comes of age and takes over in iraq
<3> nope
<5> If we withdraw now, the consequence will be the destruction of Iraq's democratic government.
<2> I don't think ***hats should be US-backed, ever
<5> The end.
<5> That simple.
<10> ++C supports precipitous obfuscation utilizing polysyllabic extraneous verbiage
<0> people calling for troopwithdrawl are a gas, we still have US troops all over the globe
<7> Pickle: the iraqis are not ready for a democratic government
<11> There is no need for a Chuck Norris clone army----one insurgency, one ranger
<3> Pickle..no the end would be when we would be forced to use tacticals to stop the shi'a hordes
<9> heh true
<5> arcane: The fact that the vast majority of Iraqis participated in every election that's been held so far suggests otherwise.
<7> only 90-110 mil shias?
<6> what qualifies as "ready"
<7> what about the rest of the 1 bill muslims?
<8> CryHavoc: They can move to Florida.
<3> arcane...thats a conservative number...
<6> apparently the Iraq's are too dumb to be in a democracy
<7> Pickle: not so
<9> Chuck Norris is sueing the Army over the Army of One
<0> we have a billion in iraq now?
<9> :)
<0> talk about your growth.
<3> taking into consideration the limits of what any one person can control
<2> when Chuck Norris saw the long list of jokes about him, he demanded the people that made them make more, and spread them to every ****ing corner of the net, or he'd roundhouse kick them personally
<7> DarthBurg: there are 1.1 billion or so muslims in the world...
<5> More Iraqis participated in their last election than did Americans. Does that mean that America is less ready for democracy than Iraq?
<2> which is why those annoying ****ing jokes are still around
<3> worst case...it could be over 200 million
<7> Pickle: well....
<6> Pickle: I believe a higher percentage would be more correct?
<0> arcade ah, so you were not just refering to just Iraq. gotcha
<3> enough to overrun the UAE and Saudi
<7> Pickle: iraqis will wind up electing extremists
<4> US-Male: What I think is that the whole idea was based on false, self-deceiving premises, was poorly executed by arrogant know-it-alls who didn't know s**t (the civilian leadership, not the army), and we're stuck in a situation where there's no good way out, no good way to stay for more than another few months, a year or two at the outside
<7> Pickle: al sadr has control of many politicians
<5> Publius: Yeah. More Iraqis as a percentage of eligible voters.
<10> plusplusc: ++C supports precipitous obfuscation utilizing polysyllabic extraneous verbiage !
<3> Al-Sadr has to die...
<7> Pickle: and those who do not vote in america should lose there rights
<3> he could be next Khomeini
<0> ++c I could not disagree with you more on each and every point you just made.
<7> CryHavoc: yes, but it is too late...
<4> US-Male: what the best solution is, beats the heck out of me.
<6> arrogant know it alls?
<3> nope..not too late...
<7> CryHavoc: we had the chance, and bush made the wrong decision
<8> US-Male has trouble with long words.
<10> ++C: keep their heads down
<3> we have to take him out
<0> the best solution has never changed.
<6> Alright
<7> CryHavoc: you kill him now and there will be a shia civil war
<12> arca|\|e not voting is a right, no?
<6> So apparently the US military knows less about the situation than the media
<5> arcane: He does, and if the Iraqis choose his politicians that's their choice. It doesn't mean they're not ready for democracy, it means they have different values than we do, much like other Islamic democracies such as Malaysia and Bangladesh do.
<10> MrRod2: I just demonstrated how easy it is to use them.
<7> bud`: voting should be a requirment
<4> Darth: ok, since you have ideas, what should we do?
<3> we can not let him be in control of any shi'a contingent...
<12> arca|\|e why? should military service also be?
<6> when general Pace and Rumsfeld come out and state there is not a civil war and the situation is being exaggerated...they are not to be believed
<3> he has some of the charisma of Khomeini
<0> ++C, well, we should use what works, Peace through superior firepower.
<8> US-Male: So? I didn't really notice anything outlandish about plucplusc's post.
<13> Howdy.
<7> bud`: people who do not vote are wastes of space
<10> MrRod2: who said there was ?
<11> If people don't want to vote it's better that they don't
<2> arca|\|e: there are always going to be a bunch of idiots that don't give a ****
<3> if he gets enough shi'a around him, it will snowball
<7> Rockfish: people like that should have no rights...
<2> forcing a vote won't change that
<4> Darth: ok, we've got that, used it. But now what?
<7> if we kill al sadr
<7> sistani will be killed as well
<0> ++C nonsense, we have been hobbbled at every turn.
<3> and remember...
<3> 200 million shi'a///who are not afraid to die.....
<7> the sadr forces will ***asinate sistani
<10> MrRod2: you're cranky because you missed your enema
<3> Sistani will die soon
<7> CryHavoc: that is what nukes are for....
<3> then Al-Sadr takes over
<6> whaaaaaaat
<7> hmm
<8> US-Male: Well, come on over.
<7> true cry
<10> hahah
<7> very true
<3> Al_sadr is 32 or so
<10> I have to work early
<7> so might as well get rid of sadr now :)
<8> US-Male: Bring the hose.
<7> sistani is what? 74?
<10> maybe the hose will reach
<3> he could last 50 years
<14> CryHavoc, why do you think he will tke over?
<7> al sadr currently yields more power than sistani....
<3> TT..because he has the means...and enough charisma to do so
<14> CryHavoc, all those older guys aren't going to step aside.
<3> and..he is only 32....VERY dangerous combo
<5> Al Sadr won't be killed. He'll be visited one night by some gentlemen who'll convince him to moderate his position, much like Sistani was probably visited.
<3> TT...nothing an AK will not solve
<3> Pickle...won't work...
<7> Pickle: lol sadr is saddam esqe... he will not fold
<3> unless they moderate his skull with a Black talon
<0> well, if we used my idea, he'd fold, like a tent
<15> "If liberty means anything at all it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear."
<3> if Iraq explodes into civil war...
<5> arcane: Waking up with a camel's head in bed next to you can change even the most hardened mind.
<16> Generally speaking, the middle east is a sand flea and sand fly infested ****hole.
<3> Al-Sadr will command the shi'a after it is done
<7> Pickle: nah.... look at sadrs eyes.....
<7> Pickle: it will not change him
<15> "The principle of free thought is not free thought for those who agree with us but freedom for the thought we hate."
<3> Imaging pakistan, Iran, Iraq, tajik, uzbek, khyrghyz, and Afghanistan
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