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<0> "Well, he/she's a godles heretic! surely it's a public service to kill them" :)
<0> etc
<1> Just sick of people who blame religon for everything
<2> Fantastic that the new Iraqi Prime Minister, a shiite, got to break the news first
<3> More for gloaria to be "finish it!" about :)
<1> It was largly because of the british occupation and whatever
<4> I don't blame religion for everything, just most of the really stupid stuff.
<0> evoke, eh. protestants and catholics had been killing eachother prior to the British occupation of n. ireland though
<1> do you blame them for nazism?
<1> for communism in soviet and china?
<1> Fact is atheist states have been by far the worst
<5> well atheisim/catholocism/satanism/protestism aside - were' not in the mainstream news where you may fall
<0> eh. both religiously justified violence or it's political version are pretty much the same thing, imo
<0> fanatical dedication to an ideology
<5> katey - well add democracy to that list then lol
<4> The nazi's were atheist? I've never heard that before, i ***umed most of them were lutheran.
<6> evoke: you are so off the mark.
<7> Nazis
<1> Atheism and totalitarianism seem to go hand in hand
<7> nazi's means 'of the nazi'
<5> sadly nazi's where die hard christians - i would call them lutherans tho - that is wrong
<1> Because athesits are usually not tolerant of religion
<0> emil^^, well, democracies (at least most western democracies) are interesting in that their very system seems to undermine what's necessary for ideological fanaticism
<0> sort of diffuses it
<7> Spain did a pretty good job of being bad in the Americas
<7> and in Spain
<4> Timur- ah i admit i'm not much of a grammar person, i thought the ' was proper since nazi is an acronym.
<6> evoke: http://www.truthdig.com/dig/item/200512_an_atheist_manifesto/
<7> acronyms generally don't require an apostrophe for plurals unless there are periods between the letters of the acronym
<6> that shows that countries and regions that have 'the love of the lord in their hearts' have it worst of all
<0> Were Nazis really christians?
<7> hence, SUVs, IEDs, etc
<1> Editors Note: At a time when fundamentalist religion has an unparalleled influence in the highest government levels in the United States
<5> katey - they claimed they were - the same as how the kk claims they are christians
<1> That's how far I got Steve
<4> Timur- nifty, thanks. I'll keep that in mind.
<7> they existed in a Christian culture and context
<0> I thought they practiced some sort of mish mash of ancient Germanic stuff mixed in with christianity and worship of the state
<5> christianty can breed radicals as easily as other religions sadly
<1> More people who want to put Americans with faith on the same level as islamofascism
<6> anyone else who hits that link: theres ALOT of reading to do
<7> and used long established Christian scapegoating to further their agenda
<5> in fact i use that as a comparison - KKK - is to christianity and islamic terrorists are to islam
<4> Well can you blame them, I mean they fund abstinence only *** education and fire surgeon generals for saying *********ion is natural.
<4> Just for starters.
<6> evoke: see, its processes like that that rip everything apart.
<4> Then there is the whole making a constitutional ban on gay marriage....
<5> dotn tell me i'm fronting on christians.......just listen - we have nuts who say their christian who are kkk proud
<5> but then we also have muslims who belive in al quaeda
<1> Stop making excuses about islamofascism
<1> Im ****in sick of it
<1> I know you don't like christians, I get it
<5> i'm no excusing a thing
<5> who are you talking to??
<1> Yeah, you're pulling the old
<1> "BUT CHRISTIANS ARE JUST AS BAD" card
<6> ok then. i can see that i aint gonna get through to you
<0> All religions have fanatics
<7> it's not that simple, of course.
<4> Stop making excuses for dangerous christian fundamentalist evoke and we'll have a deal.
<0> different religions appear to have more fanatics than others at different points in history
<5> well if you a nazi or klan member yeah you are just as bad as islamic terrorirts - but if you a good christian i respect you the same as i do normal muslims
<0> depends on a lot of other factors
<1> Definitely Katey
<3> I've always been against it....its a negative idea based upon guilt and retribution
<1> But the problem we're facing today is islamofascism
<1> not "christian fundamentalism"
<1> whatever that is
<4> Like hell we aren't.
<5> you miss the point - i ****ing hate radicals who pevernt thier religion
<7> evoke: right
<3> ...and fear
<3> btw....it causes conflicts too :)
<5> this also ties in to why i dont see why 2 muslims sects are so adamant on killing each other
<5> yes al-zarqawi is dead - he was a hate mongerer - who wanted to kill all shias
<7> can, doesn't always.
<3> emil: Same reason Catholics used to not be able to marry Lutherans....
<3> emil: In our country....about 50 years ago
<7> see, Protestants and Catholics aren't killing each other in the US, for example. Or most of Europe.
<5> vemod - sadly yes
<6> omg.
<5> at least now tho christians usually dont kill each other
<6> w got something right
<5> i wish muslims could do the same
<3> emil: Sure they do
<6> this is a huge step, yes. but there are still huge challenges ahead
<4> True, they are busy blowing up federal buildings and firebombing abortion clinics to kill each other these days.
<3> Mexicans are christians?
<5> in my entire life - i've never thought - 'holy christ! it's a catholic - kill him!!'
<8> Mexicans are catholics
<7> 1 building. Hasn't been an abortion bombing in what, years?
<3> Nicaraguans are christians I think too
<7> so, that's like comparing a bee sting to a gapin bloody wound.
<5> well i stand corrected - but to take my comment as it was meant - do we have lutherans killing presybterians or catholics?
<3> Everything stemming from that hate-filled religion....will always be the same
<6> the majority of the western world is christian
<7> emil: no.
<3> Btw....George Bush is a christian...
<5> but we do have shia's killing shiites - al-zarqawi wanted a war vs. other muslims
<3> IMO....Jesus was a peacefull man
<5> i'm just asking simply why can't muslims work together - sure call us the enemy
<5> i dont care
<5> why do muslims fight amongst themselves so much
<0> seems like people living in repressive ****ty conditions turn their frustrations inward I guess
<5> iraq makes ireland 10 years ago look tame
<7> part of their culture
<7> um.. no
<5> to be clear i always thought the IRA was on crack
<6> heh
<5> same as england
<7> Ireland 10 years ago didn't have anywhere near the deaths or injuries, or the large scale m***acres of civilians, that Iraq has now.
<5> i just dont get how 2 muslims sects can call themselves muslim and have such bloodshed between eachother
<7> read soem history. :)
<3> emil: Why do christians what to kill muslims?
<7> it's been true since the 7th century
<6> Timur-: in regards to damage and casualties, youre right. but in p***ion for their beliefs, they are on about the same level
<0> conflict in Ireland has been winding down for some time now
<5> vemod - 2 wrongs dont make a right tho that issue is in contention
<9> emil^^
<9> there were fights between christians too
<7> damage and casualties, i.e. actual events and results, are what I, at least, consider primarily relevant
<5> zviti - that was my entire point
<7> zviti: yeah, but 100s of years ago.
<9> there are obsolete this is the problem
<9> yea this is the point
<0> From what I gather, 9/11 really pretty much put the nail in the coffin on it. Apparently, prior to that, a lot of funding for IRA came from Americans with Irish heritage.
<5> i was confirming that in recent history ireland was a example of how christians and protestants hated each other killed each other
<3> I think there is one question you have to ask yourself. Well....two
<3> Are you a Christian?
<5> and i was also saying how wac that was
<3> What would Jesus do?
<10> Katey: indeed.. particularly one family named Kennedy
<0> I think it's also relevent to take a look at how ****ty life has been in Ireland up until very recently too
<4> Nope, and I would ***ume he would continue to lay in the ground.
<4> If anything is left.
<0> ****ty repressive conditions, little or no economic opportunity for young people, etc.
<7> Germany has both Catholics and Protestants. No violence between them to speak of.
<0> The economy there has boomed in recent years
<3> Jesus was against violence
<5> the IRA UK deal is much safer now - still tho i never got how you can kill in the name of God
<4> He was, didn't he throw some people out of a temple?
<4> Sounds kinda violent to me.
<3> "But we aren't perfect like Jesus" blah blah :)
<3> I'm fine with that guys...
<5> the mideast would be far better off if they united behind thier faith
<7> it's more about particularistic historical identities under threat, real or perceived, with a veneer of religious sentiment
<6> different groups of the same religion kill each other for one simple reason:
<5> the mideast tho fighting each others sects - well they're all muslim - but nooo
<7> but in most of Europe, religion and history are largely inseparable
<6> down past all their physicial possessions, past their families, to the heart of things, all people have is their beliefs. anyone who has a different belief, it is a natural reaction to want that "inconvenience" or that "threat" disposed of.
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